Coronavirus in the US

"nearly 50 patients and 30 medical workers at the Wuhan Mental Health Centre had contracted the coronavirus, China Newsweek reported late on Saturday.

As much as 41 per cent of coronavirus patients might have contracted the illness through human-to-human transmission at hospitals, according to a study by doctors at Zhongnan Hospital at Wuhan University.
The study, and published in the Journal of the American Medical Association on Friday, looked at 138 cases confirmed between January 1 and January 28 and found that 40 health workers were infected at Zhongnan Hospital, with another 17 people contracting the virus after being admitted for other conditions. The mortality rate for the 138 patients was 4.3 per cent."

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3049739/clear-backlog-coronavirus-tests-help-focus-confirmed-cases

Interesting
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/where-did-they-go-millions-left-city-before-quarantine

And those self-service kiosks (iPads) at medical clinics/urgent care centers make even less sense to me. Besides the fact that many non-techies, i.e., elderly, can be extremely slow at plug and play, grime, oil and germs… Yech.

^They wiped it down after each use at my hospital/clinic. One could still argue, it isn’t enough but I am not worried although I may buy wipes before I fly next week.

I wish ours did the same. Went to a Quest lab for a blood draw last month and there were 20+ people in line to check in. Didn’t see one wipe down in the ~45 minutes I sat in the waiting room.

Went to the Urgent Care – attached to a local hospital – as I got something in my eye from yard work. I was obviously struggling to use one eye to fill out the info on teh computer screen. Not only did I receive no help from the person behind the desk, no wipe down that I could see while I waited.

Just silly, IMO.

@dietz199 , when I use an airport water bottle fill up station, I don’t touch anything except my bottle. And my bottle is only touching on the bottom, a place that I don’t really touch. All of the ones I’ve encountered seem to be completely hands free-no need to touch the spout or any part of it. Yes, I suppose someone could sneeze or cough while using it, but what am I missing here?

The microscopic splashes resulting from the stream of water hitting the inside of the bottle. Same splashes as those you have been warned about re: washing chicken. :slight_smile: Plus people touching the controls.

Wiping down the screens in clinics with alcohol or Chlorox wipes does pretty much ZIP for nasty things like C. diff. That bug forms spores that are resistant to dilute bleach. While not a problem for healthy folks, it can be a death sentence to some elderly patients.

Keep your facts to yourself, BB. Some of us like to live in lalaland and believe that wipes help. :wink:

I guess I’m setting myself up for some disease. Today I went to the grocery store and used the ATM thingy to pay my bill. I am guessing those PIN pads never get wiped off.

What about gas pumps? I imagine it’s not a huge issue right now with terms around 20…but what about when temps are warmer? Not picturing the gas station register folks coming out to wipe the pump handles or touch screens off there either.

I think the best I can do is my own personal hygiene…hand washing. And I do that. I’m also not one who touches my face so that’s also good.

Are we now going to cultivate a society that fears touching every single surface anyone else has touched?

Wash your hands.

Not sure that I see the relevance of reporting CFUs of bacteria on surfaces. Yes, some are pathogenic, but bacteria typically have to get into the wrong space in the body to cause disease. When you ingest bacteria, most of them are destroyed by the acid in your stomach, with a few notable exceptions, like salmonella and pathogenic E. Coli. But viruses are a far greater source of infection than bacteria, numerically speaking. And to pick up a viral infection at your seat, most likely it would have been the last person who sat there who would have had to be sick (or someone nearby who coughed on your stuff)… because most viruses only last a few hours on surfaces, with some notable exceptions like Norovirus. I guess if you are using CFUs of bacteria at the airport for a surrogate marker of where you are likely to encounter viruses, it makes sense. But I doubt that sterilizing your tray table does much to decrease your risk. And I don’t hear a lot about people coming down with norovirus after travel — it’s usually colds. I think hand washing is by far the most important thing to do.

On the other hand, my opinion wouldn’t stop me from sanitizing an airline tray table, lol, because I have heard about all the people who change their kids’ diapers on there! Disgusting!

Why don’t airports sell bottled water anymore? Is this a new thing? I haven’t flown for more than a year but I’m pretty sure I saw bottled water in the airport then.

The airports I fly in and out of all have bottled water in stock, as well as other beverages, HNL, SFO, IAD, MSY and other airports.

@Sue22 Yep, no way I’m getting on a plane, I don’t have a vacation planned so no loss.
BTW< did anyone see this article by Wired? Corona Virus is bad comparing it to the Flu is worse
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-is-bad-comparing-it-to-the-flu-is-worse/

I flew in December. Was in three different airports. All sold individual bottles of water.

I think some of you would have a heart attack on my daily commute. Idk, I just wash my hands when I get inside.

Well, you’ve all convinced me to keep my touch screen pen in my purse. Not sure if it will work on all public touch screens, but it will be worth a try. I don’t encounter them all that often but did need to sign in at my orthodontist last week.

I also have a few disposable gloves but am not feeling the need for them quite yet!

My touch screen pen didn’t work at CVS—tried it there.

I like my cheap cruises. No one there judges tattoos or how we dress. They’re clean and even my immune compromised butt has never gotten sick.

If I wasn’t pregnant, I’d definitely be taking advantage of what I’m sure are going to be cheap ticket prices.

Even now, I’m not traveling because I’m 30 weeks and don’t want to risk giving birth away from home. Not because I’m afraid of getting sick. Though I am concerned about getting the flu.

Bottled water sales banned at SFO

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/SFO-s-plastic-water-bottle-ban-What-travelers-14276704.php

We be green…