Coronavirus in the US

I’m sorry if I gave the impression that “I always blame the press,” because that couldn’t be further from the truth. I believe I said “if” the family featured in the two articles were one and the same, omission of the information concerning earlier possible exposure to Covid-19 would have been yet another example of callus fear mongering by a member of the press.

Sad to say, it isn’t hard to find copious examples of bad faith actors self-identifying as members of the press. But, as you also very rightly pointed out, there are many journalists who hold so sacred their rights and inherent responsibilities under the First Amendment that they have risked their lives in service to truth-telling. I pray they never become a rare commodity in The US, or our Democracy is toast. I abhor the way some relentlessly besmirch their integrity, calling them purveyors of “fake news” or prefacing the titles The New York Times and Washington Post with the word, “failing”, as if journalistic integrity is EVER an example of failure. I simply wish there weren’t nearly as many so called journalists nefariously omitting facts or shamelessly manipulating the truth as is common nowadays.

I have several neck gaiters that I wear hiking to protect myself from dust on dry trails but my understanding is that these are pretty useless as medical masks (as bandannas would also be). The fact is that medical-grade masks are hard to come by now, and there is no point in berating people for not wearing them when they are simply not available for most people. I agree with @sorghum that if the masks were available, they’d be telling all of us to use them. But they’re not.

I did find a boxful of plastic gloves in my garage left over from a painting project. I’ll be wearing these to the store for sure as long as the “stay-at-home” order lasts. I’m planning on going to the store once a week. If people are told otherwise, it will lead to hoarding and panic and supply chain problems.

11 veterans have died at a Soldier’s Home in Massachusetts. Five of them tested positive for coronavirus
CNN

Eleven veteran residents of the Soldiers’ Home in Holyoke, Massachusetts have died – and five of them tested positive for coronavirus, Holyoke Mayor Alex Morse confirmed to CNN.

Test results are still pending for five of the remaining veterans.

The status of the last veteran who died is unknown, according to Mike Bloomberg, Morse’s chief of staff.

Soldiers’ Home houses 233 residents and is run by the state of Massachusetts. Eleven additional veterans and five staff members have also tested positive for Covid-19, Morse said.

Bennett Walsh, the facility’s superintendent, has been placed on paid administrative leave, effective immediately, according to a statement from Massachusetts Health and Human Services Deputy Secretary Dan Tsai.

Walsh did not immediately respond to CNN’s request for comment.

All of the residents at Soldiers’ Home have been isolated and symptomatic employees have been advised to quarantine.

The Department of Homeland Security has moved its National Operations Center after an employee tested positive
From CNN’s Geneva Sands

The US Department of Homeland Security’s National Operations Center has temporarily moved to an alternate location after an employee tested positive for coronavirus, according to a source familiar with the situation.

Deep cleaning of the office is expected to be completed in the next couple days, the source said.

“We can confirm there is a case within the National Operations Center at St. Elizabeth’s campus," a DHS official confirmed to CNN.

“As a precaution, we have temporarily shifted the watch to an alternate facility in order to clean and sanitize the NOC in accordance with existing medical guidelines. This move will not impact operations.”

According to DHS, the Operations Center operates 24 hours a day and serves as the “primary, national-level hub for situational awareness, a common operating picture, information fusion, information sharing and executive communications.”

The relocation was first reported by Yahoo News.

Doctors in California are “cautiously hopeful” that shelter at home measures could be working
From CNN’s Dan Simon and Stephanie Becker

Two weeks after San Francisco issued the country’s first shelter in place order for residents to prevent spread of the novel coronavirus, hospital emergency rooms throughout the region appear to be seeing the early effects.

“The surge we have been anticipating has not yet come,” Dr. Jahan Fahimi, an emergency physician and medical director at the University of California, San Francisco, told CNN. “We’re all kind of together holding our breaths.”

As of Monday morning, the city reported a total of 374 confirmed infections and six deaths from the virus. While the availability of testing is still much lower than officials would like, the modest daily count compared to other major urban centers may be an encouraging sign that the early aggressive action in the country’s second most densely populated city is having its intended effect.

“We have already made a difference in saving lives,” San Francisco Mayor London Breed said during a news conference Monday, though she and other officials repeatedly cautioned that US communities are still in the early stages of the battle against the virus.

"We’re watching the data very carefully,” added Dr Grant Colfax, the city’s public health director, cautioning that the numbers could still explode rapidly.

The situation in Los Angeles: But that sense of hope has not necessarily reached Los Angeles County, where hospitals are seeing a steady increase in the number of patients.

Close to 2,500 people are confirmed to have been infected with the coronavirus in the county, with 342 new cases reported in the past two days.

"Honestly, I would be very, very cautious because I really think we are at the beginning of the uptick,” Dr Armand Dorian, the chief medical officer at the University of Southern California Verdugo Hills Hospital in Glendale, said.

Across town at the Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, doctors expressed more optimism in the early efforts.

“We are cautiously hopeful that there has been a flattening of the steep curve because we have not seen the exponential rise of traffic coming in,” said Dr Anish Mahajan, the hospital’s chief medical officer, referring to the rate of new transmissions.

Harbor-UCLA has seen a steady rise in coronavirus patients in recent days, increasing from 12 patients on Thursday to 35 on Monday.

“And that may be because of the stay at home order,” Mahajan said. “But it’s far too premature to say because we have done such little testing.

What the authorities say: At a news conference Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom was asked if officials were beginning to see a flattening of the curve of coronavirus patients.

“We’re in the middle of this. It would be too easy to say what has or has not worked,” Newsom said. “The stay home effort has bought us time to prepare.”

California currently has at least 5,763 coronavirus cases, including 118 deaths.

Hawaii orders quarantine for people traveling between the state’s major islands
CNN

Hawaii has introduced strict new measures, requiring those who travel between the state’s eight major islands to self-isolate for 14 days, Gov. David Ige announced.

The order goes into effect on Tuesday and will last through at least April 30.

Last week, Ige ordered similar mandatory quarantine measures for anyone entering the state by air, regardless of whether they are a resident or a visitor. The orders do not apply to essential workers and flight crews.

Lt. Gov. Josh Green – a medical doctor who is the state’s coronavirus prevention liaison – said in a news conference on Monday that the rate of infection could increase dramatically if people don’t follow the quarantine orders.

“That is how we lose,” Green said. “That is how people die in the state of Hawaii.”
Hawaii has 204 confirmed coronavirus cases and no deaths.

The US federal government sent the wrong masks, says Illinois governor
CNN

The White House told the US state of Illinois that it would receive 300,000 N95 masks – but instead, the state got surgical masks, says Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker.

“My team is sorting through the shipment of 300,000 N95 masks the White House personally told me would be sent to our state," he said at a news conference Monday.
"While we do not have a final count on this yet, I can say with certainty that what they sent were not the N95 masks that were promised but instead were surgical masks, which is not what we asked for.
“I can’t emphasize enough how much we need the federal government to step up and amplify the size of their PPE (personal protective equipment) deliveries to Illinois and frankly across the nation.”
This was the third federal shipment of PPE Illinois has received and it arrived Sunday. But the governor said Illinois had so far received only a “small fraction” of what the state had asked for.

The state of Illinois currently has 5,057 confirmed coronavirus cases, including 73 deaths.

Pritzker also called on President Donald Trump to use the Defense Production Act to direct companies to increase PPE production.

New York’s Empire State Building was lit up on Monday night to honour medical workers and first responders.

The building’s twitter account described the pulsing red light as a “heartbeat”.

Empire State Building
:heavy_check_mark:
@EmpireStateBldg
The heart of New York is beating strong. :heart:

Empire State Building
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@EmpireStateBldg
[1/2] We’ll never stop shining for you.

Starting tonight through the COVID-19 battle, our signature white lights will be replaced by the heartbeat of America with a white and red siren in the mast for heroic emergency workers on the front line of the fight. (Guardian)

Anger as Las Vegas turns parking lot into ‘homeless shelter’

City says parking lot marked to distance residents from each other was best option after virus forced another shelter to close

Images of homeless people sleeping in a converted parking lot in Las Vegas have sparked criticism, even as the city officials describe an “emergency situation” and say the solution was the best option after another shelter was forced to close amid the coronavirus crisis.

Over the weekend, authorities in Las Vegas needed to find additional sleeping space for the city’s sizable homeless population when a 500-bed overnight shelter closed after a client tested positive for the new coronavirus.

Officials turned a parking lot into a makeshift shelter, saying spaces for sleeping were drawn 6ft apart in observance of federal social distancing guidelines.

Many white boxes were covered up with blue mats that could be more easily cleaned. But photos of the temporary shelter showing people sleeping close to each other on the ground, some within arm’s reach, sparked backlash on social media.

Jace Radke, spokesperson for the city of Las Vegas, said the city and county had worked to open the temporary shelter after Catholic Charities closed and the city’s other shelter, Courtyard Homeless Resource Center, was nearly filled to capacity.

Officials set up the new shelter in the parking lot of the Cashman Center, which most recently has hosted soccer games. A city official said the inside of the Cashman Center could not be used as shelter because it was reserved for overflow hospital space.

Homelessness is a continuing crisis in southern Nevada, with at least 6,500 people camped on streets or in storm drains at any given time.

On Saturday, roughly a dozen medical and physician assistant students from Touro University were on hand to help officials set up the shelter.

Radke said Catholic Charities planned to reopen within the week and that medical staff would be available near the Cashman Center to screen people for symptoms and get them medical help if they showed signs of being infected.

The blue mats laid down for people to sleep are easier to clean than the 24,000-sq-ft carpet squares volunteers had first used at the parking lot, which cannot be power washed.

But many on Twitter have criticized the move, pointing to photos of people who appear to be sleeping on the ground or on unseen patches of carpet.

“After criminalizing homelessness this year, Las Vegas is now packing people into concrete grids out of sight,” tweeted Julián Castro, the former presidential hopeful and mayor of San Antonio, who served as the secretary of housing under Barack Obama.

“There are 150K hotel rooms in Vegas going unused right now. How about public-private cooperation (resources) to temporarily house them there? And fund permanent housing!”

Radke said he could not speak to specific photos but said they may have been taken of the sections of parking lot that were not yet covered when officials ran out of mats.

“Look, this is an emergency situation. People are always going to criticize. But the city and county are working to ensure people can get the resources they need,” he said, adding that the state’s stay-at-home order “is easier said than done for people who are homeless”.

Despite the backlash, the shelter was a welcome sight to Denise Lankford, who is unhoused.

“I’m about to cry,” Lankford told the CNN affiliate KLAS. “This right here is helping us feel secure, feel safe. Other places, you don’t feel safe.”

Before coronavirus landed in the global spotlight, the city had begun cracking down on people living outdoors. In November, the city council approved a law that made sitting, resting or “lodging” on sidewalks a misdemeanor punishable with up to six months in jail or fines of up to $1,000 in most neighborhoods.

While the mayor, Carolyn Goodman, said the city’s “entire effort is humanitarian and compassionate”, housing advocates worried that the “no lodging” convictions would haunt people for the rest of their lives.

Homelessness is a widespread problem across the western US, particularly in California, where more than 40,000 people live in shelters on a given night.

Advocates and shelter residents have warned that unsanitary and inhumane conditions raise significant concerns for the battle against the spread of the coronavirus.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/las-vegas-parking-lot-homeless-shelter

As far as medical experts and their advice - I remember when my babies were babies and the strong advice literally flip flopped about whether babies should sleep on their backs or their bellies, and then it may have flip flopped again a year or two later.

Some issues are clear cut for the most part, some issues will always have gray areas.

I did - but they were not just walking by, normal breathing - like my example. They were singing an projecting - I can see droplets dispersing like that. I do believe that the disease can spread via the air, and this really rings true:

The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, which has dealt with by far more COVID-19 cases than any other agency, says that COVID-19 transmission occurs primarily by respiratory droplets and close contact, with the "possibility of aerosol transmission in a relatively closed environment for a long time exposure to high concentrations of aerosols."12

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Bend it like the Bay Area: Doctors see flatter curve after 2 weeks of social isolation-

SAN FRANCISCO — State leaders and doctors are cautiously optimistic that the Bay Area’s early moves to lock down residents two weeks ago have prevented surges of coronavirus patients from overwhelming the region’s health care capacity thus far.

Six Bay Area counties were first in the country to adopt aggressive tactics with an enforceable March 16 order requiring residents to stay at home. Gov. Gavin Newsom quickly followed with a statewide order three days later restricting the state’s 40 million residents from all but essential activities.

After 14 days — the outermost period at which symptoms are believed to emerge post-infection — doctors at area hospitals are now reporting fewer cases than they expected to see at this point, and officials credit the lockdown with stemming the tide of patients they feared would flood into emergency rooms.

Northern California offered a rare glimpse of optimism Monday as the U.S. recorded its most coronavirus deaths in one day and Washington, D.C.-area jurisdictions — Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia — issued their first enforceable stay-at-home orders. Health officials across the nation are eyeing the Bay Area as a bellwether to determine the effects of social distancing, since the region’s policies were replicated in various states and cities in subsequent days.

The Bay Area’s primary goal two weeks ago was to slow the growth of serious cases, buying public officials and hospitals enough time to increase the number of hospital beds, respirators and staff necessary to handle a coronavirus surge.

“We believe very strongly the stay-at-home order has helped advance our efforts in reducing the stress on the system that we believe would have already materialized in more acute ways had we not advanced those protocols when we did,” Newsom said Monday in his daily press conference.

While officials remain adamant that people stay home and adhere to social-distancing guidelines — the Bay Area Monday extended its stay-at-home order to May 1 — they also are praising residents for following orders and expressing optimism that the measures will continue to work.

“Just generally when you look around Oakland now, what you are seeing gives you hope that makes you feel good about what’s going on here," Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said in an interview. “People really got the message … and I believe that it will show that we will have flattened that curve.”

Stephen Parodi, a infectious disease doctor and associate executive director with The Permanente Medical Group in Northern California, said that Kaiser Permanente is “seeing a leveling off of Covid-19 cases in our hospitals” across Northern California, where it serves 4.5 million members. Kaiser has also seen calls related to colds and coughs drop by more than half since social distancing took effect, a key indicator that precedes hospitalization, he said.

“While we still predict an upcoming surge, the partnership between the health system and public health officials on the local and state levels to implement social distancing has given us more time to put a lot of pieces in place to prepare for a potential surge,” Parodi said in a statement.

Many Bay Area residents have faced restrictions for longer than 14 days. A week before the shelter-in-place order, Santa Clara County issued an enforceable ban on gatherings of more than 1,000 people, a move that forced cancellation of pro sporting events and concerts. San Francisco and Oakland soon followed suit. The jurisdictions also strongly urged that employers shift to remote work.

Because testing remains uneven, it’s difficult to draw broad comparisons between regions. A few weeks ago, America’s most populous state drew the nation’s greatest concern after community spread was detected here first. But California now has fewer total deaths than five other U.S. states, according to the Johns Hopkins University Coronavirus Resource Center. And on a per capita basis, 13 states had a higher death rate Monday.

Not all Bay Area counties are feeling as confident as others. Santa Clara County, which was the state’s epicenter and took the earliest actions on social distancing, still has an outsize share of coronavirus cases for its size, with 848 cases and 28 deaths.

The Bay Area’s other eight counties have been faring better, reporting 1,352 cases and 24 deaths total, according to the Johns Hopkins data. Statewide, California has 6,400 confirmed cases and 146 deaths.

Officially, hospital spokespeople are hesitant to identify trends. But individual doctors say the stay-at-home order has likely helped to keep numbers lower than they would be otherwise.

“It’s really the only thing we can point to that reliably would suggest that’s why we have fewer cases than other communities around the country,” said Jahan Fahimi, medical director of the emergency department at University of California, San Francisco’s Parnassus campus, which has about 15 patients with Covid-19, nine of them critically ill. “We’re definitely cautiously optimistic.”

Fahimi acknowledged that testing is still patchy, but said the low number of patients needing intensive care is evidence that the spread has been slower than feared.

“What I can say is how many critically ill patients we have, and that has not surged,” he said. “Something is working.”

On the supply side, hospitals have bought time by rescheduling elective procedures, setting up respiratory care units in parking lots and other areas and procuring more ventilators and personal protective equipment.

“The result has been we didn’t get this huge influx of patients, and we emptied out the hospital in preparation,” Fahimi said. “We have the capacity to meet the demand as it comes through the door.”

The South Bay is further from declaring victory.

“I am not yet optimistic because we don’t have enough data to really know,’’ San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said in an interview. “And in the absence of surveillance testing at a scale that we see in places like Taiwan and Singapore, we simply don’t have enough of a handle to understand whether we’ve contained this.’’

“I will say that we are looking at independent or other sources of data about movement and travel and it appears that there is relatively good compliance in places like San Francisco,’’ he said.

To be sure, California is far from being out of the woods. But it’s on a slower upswing compared to the nation as a whole, according to the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. While the nationwide curve is projected to peak on April 15, California is on a trajectory to hit peak demand on April 26, when it would need about 10,500 hospital beds and 1,250 ventilators.

The hospitalization total is far better than some projections; Newsom last week said California could need as many as 50,000 extra beds.

On Monday, state Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly struck a relatively confident tone, saying California currently has enough ICU beds and ventilators for anyone who needs them and is likely equipped for “weeks to come.”

Still, California leaders are urging that residents need to stay the course and not let up one bit.

“We still have plenty of work to do,’’ Liccardo said. “And one thing I know is that we’ve got some rough weeks ahead. … This would be far too early for us to be patting ourselves on the back, because we’ve got very heavy slogging ahead.”

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/03/30/bend-it-like-the-bay-area-doctors-see-flatter-curve-after-2-weeks-of-social-isolation-1269663

Japan prime minister and his deputy to avoid attending the same meetings

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his deputy, Taro Aso, will avoid attending the same meetings as a precautionary measure against the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters reported.

“Prime Minister (Shinzo) Abe told cabinet members this morning that Deputy Prime Minister Taro Aso would not join a meeting where he attends,” Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Akihiro Nishimura said at a news briefing, according to Reuters.

In the event Abe is unable to fulfill his duties as prime minister, Aso will be next in line to become Japan’s interim leader. The country has at least 1,953 reported cases and 56 deaths, according to JHU data. (CNBC)

COVID 19 can be transmitted through the air, but only if you are close enough and are being exposed to a large amount of fluid. People sometimes emit droplets while speaking, and they travel only a very short distance. Coughing sends them further, and more of them, and sneezing can send larger amount over a dozen feet away.

When you sing, you not only expel more fluid, but you expel it further than when you just speak. Moreover, at the distances which choirs stand, they are well within the range of these droplets, and are exposed in still air for hours. It is not the same as walking next to somebody, and definitely not comparable to walking through the space vacated by somebody else a couple of seconds earlier, and outdoors.

Again, when face masks are available for everybody, some people may want to take the extra precaution of having a face mask, or consider that they may be infected and wear one. There may even be benefits if everybody wears one, so that those who are infected but asymptomatic will not infect others.

HOWEVER, masks are not freely available, and every one that is used by somebody to moderately decrease their already low chances of infection is one that is not available to people who are exposed to infection on a daily basis, or people who are more likely to becomes seriously ill if they are infected.

If you are one of that group, or are one of that group temporarily (unavoidably required to be in close proximity with a lot of strangers in a small area), please, please, please, wear a mask, otherwise, leave them for the people who really need them. If you have a few, donate them to your nearest hospital, clinic, or directly to store personnel who interact with costumers (I do not trust many store managers to take care of their employees).

If you are not one of those group, keep six feet away from others, avoid crowds, and face away from anybody who gets within three feet of you in stores or other locations. And don’t forget to wash your hands and not touch your face.

My wife’s best friend is an ER nurse, and it is awful that she will need to reuse disposable masks, because Karen or Brad are worried that they may, perhaps, run into some droplets on their morning jog. Or worse, because Steve or Sue decided to buy 50,000 when they realized that there would be a run on masks, and are now selling them to Karen or Brad (who can afford those prices) for $300 a mask.

Many countries in Asia have higher population density than the US. Someone strictly concerned about relative risk of transmission of disease may choose to wear a mask all the time in a densely populated city, but not bother in a sparsely populated suburb or rural area (except when going to the grocery store or hospital).

Much of Europe also has greater population density than the US. But many countries in Europe (e.g. France, Austria, Italy, Netherlands, Denmark) ban the wearing of face coverings in public for reasons that have nothing to do with health reasons (hostility to how some conservative religious minority women dress, or fear of terrorism or crime), so the wearing of masks in public for health reasons may be legally problematic in those countries.

They would be useless if you were intubating a patient with COVID-19. But if the job is protecting another person when you, not realizing you’ve got COVID-19, cough, then they’d do pretty well.

You can cut a mask out of a double layer of old t-shirt. You cut off the neck and shoulders. You cut off the lower part that covers your belly, and you’re left with a strip maybe 5 inches wide. You split the sleeves and a bit further, to serve as ties, and then the center part where the upper part of the logo is goes over your mouth and nose.

The reality is at this point in time there are not enough masks to go around. I would certainly like to see the majority of available masks go to health care providers on the front lines. Yes, some vulnerable people should also have access. In my.mind if I myself am wearing a commercial mask at this point I am taking away from someone more needy.

It is interesting that when masks were readily available and a respiratory illness was going around the household, even with knowledge about mask use from living in Asian countries, some still didn’t use a mask at that point.

Obviously the world has been turned upside down at this point.

And yes, homemade masks are certainly a viable option in these times. Yesterday I posted a study of homemade mask effectiveness and directions to making them.

The mask situation really is pathetic. Ventilators too. My wife is a CRNA but has been commandeered to the ICU when necessary. We’ve scrounged up a few N95 masks but she’s reusing them. They’re resorting to baking them in the oven. If you have any please donate them.

I never thought I’d see something like this in America. We spend $Trillions on national defense and it all it takes is a tiny virus and a supply chain disruption to bring America to its knees. Maybe time to rethink our values and strategies.

Everything I’m told is that anything less than an N95 mask (and even they aren’t foolproof) is a nice thought but how helpful they are is very debatable. They don’t keep germs out too much but they could help catch them when coughing but then good sanitation and cleaning come in to play. Social distancing seems to be the best way to slow the spread.

The problem with an individual heeding advice not to stockpile and hoard is that one can lose availability to needed items because the general population has bought up the items beyond normal supplies. It’s as simple as that

If that individual becomes ill or incapacitated, has limited access to supplies, it can become an acute problem. Cousin and I hsve been sharing our supplies with several elderly folks, some relatives we know, as we have not been able to get certain items important, even vital to them, when we go out now and shop for them.

The same goes for those who simply did not have the resources to stockpile, and/or don’t have the money to buy right now. I’ve been sharing my stuff with such folks I personally know. For all the talk about aid, the harsh reality is that many people have yet to see any of it, and those who were scraping by before have been hit as, not only have their money disappeared, but so have the supplies they need to buy.

I stockpiled long, long before any of this. I coupon shop in binges, and hsve played the CVS Rewards game heavily for years. My kids were involved in many community service activities that involved donations of necessary items certain places and people always had acute needs and shortages of Some the very items Now in short supply. So, I , have and have had, many of these items before COVID19 became a recognized label.

I’ve used surgical and work masks as protection for myself and for medically vulnerable individuals. Family members and friends in fragile health have been advised to wear such masks by doctors and medical advisors for years. To protect the wearer. Yes, I have a stash of masks including the n95/99 and I am keeping them for personal use, for situations that may affect me and those Zi know. They’ve already come in good use. If I had far more than I believed could be of great use for me, If donate them, as I have other supplies and goods that I had. I’ll cut down my stockpiled inventory of things due to needs of the population to the degree that I feel comfortable.

An elderly woman, dear to me, has an inevitably fatal condition , almost certainly in the near term, and COVID19 would most likely bring her end much sooner if she gets it. She wears masks when she ventureds out for her treatments that are extending her life, and gives masks to those who directly come into contact with her. We’ve been doing this since RSV season, as a simple cold that she likely got from an aide who was showing symptoms earlier this season waylaid her terribly last year to the point that she was hospitalized and nearly died. Whether it’s been the masks she’s been dutifully using and asking her hands on medical providers and caretakers to use, or just better luck, we do not know, but she’s remained infection free this season.

My entire supplies could be gone instantly if I donated them Then I’d be left without what I want to use. I’ve not breached any supply limit requests in buying anything. I simply like to keep large amounts of supplies at hand and always have.

I don’t understand the sniping at those who have had the foresight to stock up.

@cptofthehouse I hear you. We could’ve spent a month or two not going to the store.

However, about the masks. I still urge people to donate what they can. We’re probably a week or two away from finding out how infectious this virus is with healthcare workers. I’ve heard different numbers but the last my wife quoted was a 40% chance of infection. If half of our doctors and nurses are sick that’s not good at all if you’re unlucky and end up at the hospital. Once the frontline is overrun…

NYT Opinion - It’s time to make your own mask

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/opinion/coronavirus-n95-mask.html?referringSource=articleShare

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-residents-say-chinese-government-coronavirus-death-toll-is-low-2020-3?r=DE&IR=T

Just from watching how the virus behaves in other countries, I feel that the numbers China reported can be nowhere near the truth. Nor do I believe China would have gone to the lengths it did stamping the virus out in Hubei if the death toll were really this low.

I think it’s a well accepted theory that China lied about their numbers. And they did do very drastic measure to separate people. My co-workers in China said that many houses were being sealed from the outside in the “infected town”. I said what about the food? What if those people needed food? She just shrugged off. They would have to send food to those people, right? I hope so.

At least one Liberty University student tested positive:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/politics/coronavirus-liberty-university-falwell.html