Coronavirus in the US

No, but I am not saying that they aren’t properly thanking people for volunteering either. In other words, before you say that Cuomo didn’t give credit to the volunteers perhaps listen to what he says, because in fact he does thank them and talk about them.

Also I wished more watched because I have a question about the issue mentioned by the French reporter.

Macron mentioned that he and the President are working on something big for the world. The president confirmed they have been talking a lot about something but didn’t want to discuss it now. Macron is working on it. And it might work or happen or it might not.

Any ideas what in the world that is all about ?

something related to the virus?

You can’t get the flu from the flu shot because it is a ‘killed’ virus. You can get a reaction, but that would not be the same as the flu. If you get the flu right after having the flu shot, you were exposed to the flu elsewhere and would have gotten the flu anyway. Millions of people get the flu shot each year. A small percent of them will come down with a flu they were exposed to in the days before they got the shot and come down with it right after coincidentally.

Another important highlight. The president seemed to be ready to order Florida to allow those two ships to dock. They have sick people and it’s inhumane to let them be a ghost ship. Although the passengers are not American.
He seemed to feel it was wrong what they did in Asia to the people.

Didn’t come out and say it. But it seemed that as going to happen

Anyone catch that and is that the right thing to do. I do but it’s not my state.

Hi everybody,
I’ve tried to give news in the past two weeks but could never keep up, then the thread turned so disheartening I just couldn’t.
I originally wanted to write that my present is your future, but this isn’t true anymore: my present is your better-case-scenario timeline’s future and you’re not in that timeline. :frowning: I don’t know how else to write this.
I left the US at the end of February, when Coronavirus was still a joke for most and a concern with regards to racist jerks insulting/attacking Asian Americans. I was going to Europe for work. I did check the epidemic numbers daily and carefully and March 9 I warned my French in-laws there and arranged to stay with them (in an area that wasn’t, and still mostly isn’t, impacted). I chose to shelter in place abroad because the US response was so terrifyingly inadequate that I started thinking there’ll be 10,000 dead, then two weeks ago I said 100,000 could die because it was so woefully organized, and it was a nightmare scenario I barely dared say out aloud. I just don’t have words when I think of these needless deaths. I deliberately don’t listen to anything but my reason (I can’t think I should return) and I continue sheltering in place here.

In case this is useful, this is what I noticed was helpful here and could be adapted, in no particular order:
if you have kids or tweens

  • buy a small trampoline and/or a hopper ball
  • buy activity books, paper doll books, coloring books, markers, kids classics/graphic novels/ya. Paper books for now (if you have a Kindle or similar, you’ll have plenty of time to download later).
  • figure out what’s educational&age-appropriate on what channels at what time of the day, create a spread sheet. It typically repeats weekday to weekday.
    “Screentime guidelines” still apply, even if you relax them. But unless you’re a master in arts&crafts you probably don’t have enough to have the kids work on a project every day. In addition, you really don’t want your kids to come in while you’re videoconferencing with a client and you’ll need to sit them in front of the TV from time to time. Anything involving zoos seems to be appropriate for 4-12.
  • you’ll want to cook together: figure out what your family’s comfort foods are, and buy the supplies.
  • you’ll want your teens to take that opportunity to learn how to cook. Figure out what recipes they want to master and get the supplies. Smaller kids may want to learn so you may want to acquire a kid-friendly recipe book.
  • you probably bought tons of pasta. But really try to find oranges, apples, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, and onions. (Note: OJ is fine, but OJ’s nutrition value is not oranges’, so finding oranges should be a priority).
  • if you don’t have a garden, print out or buy large posters of flowers, woods, streams, etc. to post on bedroom or office walls.
  • make sure to call the old people in your life every day or every other day. Install your favorite communication app so they can talk with their grandkids.

@Qtinfo I don’t know. That was my first thought. But so many people here come from interesting places of knowledge. And i don’t know much about macron and his agenda.

Most of those numbers are from Wuhan and the nearby areas, from what I understand. In a city that was extremely locked down many, many died. You can’t take the % of the entire of China, but of the outbreak area in China. The USA, on the other hand, did not contain the virus and has people not staying home in various parts so are spreading it further and wider than it ever was in China, which is why it seems on course to be worse here than here, sadly.

I get it. We are all scared. Maybe to a different degrees, but we are all scared. These are not sociopaths and frankly. Before Covid Times (BCT) there were numerous discussions regarding the latitude to be given youth since they have under-developed brains. Handwringing about how punishments need to incorporate these undeveloped brains. (specifically recalling the UCLA athlete who went on a shop lifting spree - how they were not REALLY responsible since they were young and affected by group think).

Times are harsh enough, no need for terms such as ‘sociopath’.

A victory would have been a very firm stoppage of flights from China right away and a shift to stoppage of flights to other affected areas as they happened, having masks and protective gear and respirators and an actual workable plan including the logistics of getting supplies where they need to go and person up to that task, getting testing going as soon as it was needed, top notch screening at all airports by people in full gear, etc, which would have lead to a tiny fraction of even the current numbers of cases. That would have been a victory. This is an almost complete failure and could have been avoided.

No I think @amsunshine meant that she felt the same way (or similar but a bit less bad) because what a person feels as symptoms is his/her own body’s response.

@MYOS1634 I’m glad to hear u are doing well. And I know you mean well. But how on earth do you know what it’s like for an entire nation.

Things are not perfect but actually ok for the vast majority of us.

If we listen to the guidelines. And most but not all are. Freedom does have a price from time to time.

I’ll take the overall good with the bad. And most of us don’t have the ability to head out to Asia or wherever is better.

We will survive and hope you come back at some point.

From Dr. Birx: “This model (the one that predicts 100,000 to 240,000 dead Americans) assumes full mitigation.”

But guess what? We’re not doing full mitigation. The southern governors have still, to this minute, not shut down their states.

Those police should have protective gear!! The N word hurts my ears and the wearing at the police. Those officers are in great harm’s way doing that.

She specifically said @“Cardinal Fang” that the models did not factor in a national lockdown. Full mitigation was the federal guidelines. I know some haven’t issued full shelter in place guidelines. Which may be the thing to do. But full mitigation was not lockdown everywhere. She was clear on that.

Florida like many places needs to lock down many places. But rural panhandle and the dusty center. I’m not sure.

You mean from today’s briefing? The scientists actually briefly got a word in edgewise before the graphs were then mis-explained.

Found these interesting numbers

Per National Center for Health Statistics, the National Safety Council, causes of death in the US per year :

1,900: strep throat
3,000: food poisoning
5,000: choking
6,946: accidental hanging
7,450: pedestrians hit by a car
7,740: obesity
12,316: pregnancy-related
20,108: inflammation resulting from food or liquids getting into the lungs
35,000: antibiotic-resistant bacteria
35,823: alcohol-induced deaths
36,336: falls
40,922: blood poisoning resulting from bacteria
47,173: suicide
55,672: flu and pneumonia
64,795: accidental poisoning
83,564: diabetes
121,404: Alzheimer’s
160,201: chronic lower respiratory disease
169,936: all accidental deaths
250,000: medical errors
599,108: cancer
647,457: heart disease

American Hospital Association - 36 million hospital admissions in 2018 and 139 million emergency room visits. That’s more than 380,000 a day.

Did you watch the whole thing. They spent a lot of time speaking in the last portion. It was long.

But to each his or her own I guess.

@myos1634, Thank you so much for your input. I’ve been worried about you.

We’re trying to do all of that and more. In our (NYS) area people are planning gardens and intend to share with neighbors who don’t have the space or ability to produce anything. We’re pulling out crafts and introducing the younger generation to crafts and activities we learned from our parents. It’s going to get very, very bad here before it gets better. But we’re staying put and trying to lessen the collateral damage.

I hope you continue to do well and look forward to the day we can all travel more freely.

To those who posted about the doctor’s video saying that the virus isn’t airborne and we don’t need masks, please read the following. That doctor didn’t provide any proof of what he said about whether it is airborne or not. If it weren’t airborne, how is asymptomatic transmission happening?