@dietz199 “Moving the goalposts” is a sports metaphor." Evidently you didn’t realize that when you used it?
One reason for the push for more people to get tested for active infection is so that the proportion of positive tests drops. Many states/counties have a goal proportion, say under 10%, as one of the conditions to open things up, or go to the next phase.
So, they are appealing to more people to get diagnostic tests, especially those who have been SIP.
i’m confused. California is “reopening” - the only states not ‘reopening’ this week are in my area - CT, and MA. How can California reopen, yet LA extend “Stay at Home”? What does Stay at Home mean in LA and what does ‘reopening’ mean in LA?
^^^ HA, good point, we use the term in our SO non-sports business all the time. Language morphs…but I see your point. 
UC and Cal State campuses will be online for fall. (There may be exceptions for classes that can only be done in person).
My opinion is that tuition should be at an online rate.
Schools have been closed until very recently in most affected nations. I believe Denmark was first to re-open in the second half of April. They haven’t had cases sky rocket because of the extraordinary measures they’ve implemented. (Like, kids going to classes in a soccer stadium to ensure distancing.) They’re also teaching a lot of classes outside. In Germany, which just reopened its schools, some teachers teach two classrooms simultaneously… ten minutes in one classroom, hop across the hall to another classroom where the other half your kids is.
Also: Germany has tests. Lots and lots of tests. And the kids are thoroughly tested, in some places twice a week.
I assume you know how “successful” testing has been in the US.
I hesitated to post this story when it first came out because the article doesn’t make it completely clear that the girl’s heart attacks were caused by coronavirus, but now we know that they were. It’s part of the inflammation seen in children who catch it sometimes.
The WaPo has a little 5-minute video story about her today, but I can’t link to just that.
Here is the older story, from May 3: “I died and came back”
https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_ac764282-8d9e-11ea-b272-f7548c40fbec.html
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“Juliet came in as one of the sickest children we’ve taken care of with COVID-19,” said Kleinmahon. The top chamber of her heart was not working correctly with the bottom chamber, and she was developing “multisystem organ failure,” he said.
Kleinmahon said children with coronavirus infections often have different symptoms than adults, such as the abdominal problems Juliet had, or rashes in other cases. He said many children also have another virus besides the coronavirus and that was the case with Juliet.{/quote] She also had adenovirus.
NY is only opening 3 rural regions (out of 10 regions) on Friday. Only manufacturing, construction and curb side or inside pickup at stores allowed (no shopping/browsing etc) They cannot move on to Phase 2 for at least two weeks and then only if the numbers/metrics allow.
All other regions still on PAUSE.
No way that downstate/LI will reopen if/when all the other regions in the state are reopened. They will be the last for sure.
Why? Does an online professor cost less?
Lebanon was doing well in controlling the virus, so they started opening up. Cases started rising and they’ve shut down again.
So the LA Times headline is “After Voting to Rescind SAH orders, coronavirus cases rise in Riverside County”. Then one reads the article. They voted to rescind the SAH orders on Friday. Cases reported on Monday, another 150. Now assuming that people went out immediately on Friday and caught the virus, and then immediately showed symptoms, and signed up for testing, the results take 48 hours or more to process.
So the Friday order to rescind could have little to do with the new cases reported Monday.
They also reported 12 deaths, which even more obviously have nothing to do with the order to rescind.
I hate the way the newspapers manipulate the facts with such misleading headlines.
I’ll also report on my COVID 19 testing today. Anyone can get tested in LA. The line of cars was orderly and although I showed up at the most crowded time it took me 45 minutes to finish.
The bad part was that the instructions had changed from the video they have you watch before you go. The equipment in the kit changed from what was on the video. So I am not sure I did the test correctly. I guess I’ll find out when the results come out.
Because 90% of students think online learning is garbage.
At my kid’s school, the online rate (pre covid) was HIGHER.
Practicing social distancing is like pretending that everyone else outside of your household is smoking or vaping, and you want to minimize exposure to their secondhand smoke or vape. I realized that when out for a run recently when I ran a path to keep away from someone smoking and realized that it was the same thing I now do to social distance to avoid giving or receiving virus to anyone who happens to be there.
Yes, that is what I mean – any place where, if someone were smoking or vaping there, it would be difficult to avoid the secondhand smoke or vape should be considered high risk of getting virus if a contagious person were there. This means minimizing time spent inside, particularly in smaller and worse ventilated spaces, and minimizing time spent where you must be stationary (unable to move away from someone smoking or vaping). Obviously, how crowded a place is also matters in terms of how many “smokers / vapers” or potential virus carriers are there.
As someone who has been teaching online all semester - and has taught online courses in the past - I don’t think that’s true at least for courses without things like lab requirements. Worth the same amount of money? Probably not - but I don’t think my students have been substantially shortchanged, in terms of content, compared to the students taking the same class last year. In person is better, but not immeasurably so.
This is only, of course, true assuming students with reliable internet access - my attendance has been much lower than usual, though this may also be because the university waived attendance policies for the term. Normally, the students can’t get credit if they don’t show up for a certain percentage of classes.
@TatinG , where are you seeing that the UC system will be online only in the fall? Cal State did just announce they will be online only for all campuses, with limited exceptions, such as nursing clinicals. I don’t think the UC has made a final decision yet. (Edited to add: That said, I do expect the UC to be online as well, I just don’t think it’s official yet.)
Local government discretion? Didn’t many people here advocate for that?
I’m confident that Santa Clara County’s fantastic Public Health Officer, Sara Cody, is not in any way attempting to collect misleading information or to twist data to reach a preferred conclusion. Sara Cody is the hero who pushed the seven Bay Area counties to shut down, before any state shut down. She saved a lot of lives. I trust her to do the right thing.
Anyway our positivity rate is 5.5% and has been dropping steadily, so she doesn’t have any need to artificially depress it.
In NH it seems antibody tests are readily available. DH was able to have an antibody test within 24 hrs. of speaking to his doc.
@thumper1 I am guessing that when they say everybody should be tested it is implied that anyone who can’t social distance should be tested. So if you need to return to work, go to school, etc. you should be tested. There is no need to be tested if you are self quarantining (unless you are symptomatic).