@momzilla2D - I’m guessing pressure to open up (they had demonstrators at their daily press briefings and armed people protesting in front of the Ohio Department of Health Director’s home). My system has changed our medical campus to a COVID-19 hospital and I think tentatively planned to take it down, but I think they are going to wait until June to see what happens to the numbers.
Not intentionally. Because I’m not in public health or a scientist – “real” or “abd” etc., – I didn’t know there were public health scientists without PhDs. My apologies to them 
I suspect the polls that show low income and unemployed workers aren’t eager to open up any business are in part influenced by the $600 extra per week that’s currently being added to unemployment payouts.
When the $600 weekly federal subsidy ends, all those workers are back on the paltry state unemployment (if they’re still eligible) and competing for jobs with all the other millions who were also laid off and were waiting to look until the $600 ended… I think the answers to those will be very different.
Didn’t read the rest, because this is a parallel to what my 68 year old brother told me last night when he admitted he’s down in Port Sulpher, La. at our fishing camp.
We’re the ones at risk but ‘sheltering at home’, ‘safer at home’, whatever goofy feel-good spin they put on curling up and waiting it out… ignores the question of why? Why waste one of your few remaining years in fear of a 2 to 3% chance of dying from something other than all the things are gathering up to kill you anyway?
(What he really said was: “the last couple months ain’t been living and I’m tired of it.”)
I wonder what he’d say while in ICU, hooked up to a ventilator for two weeks. Would he say staying at home, watching TV and drinking a beer “ain’t been living”?
Then please don’t insult people with your elitist comments. A PhD makes one a scientist, but one does not need to have a PhD to be a real scientist - in many fields. I know quite an accomplished molecular biologist who (horrors!) - has is a BA:… not in a scientific field, mind you. Yet the person has publications and patents… not something many here can brag about.
Bunsen, I’m surprised at you. The entire conversation stemmed from a discussion whether it was “suspicious” that Dr. Fauci may have had investments in vaccine companies. And I wrote that no, that many scientists invest in companies doing research that’s interesting to them. I then added that my daughter, who hasn’t yet finished her Phd (she’s a candidate) “and therefore isn’t a “real” scientist” also has some investments in pharmaceutical companies. I wasn’t denigrating health care workers. I simply didn’t want to come across as comparing my daughter, still a student, to Dr. Fauci.
This had nothing to do with elitism or snobbism on my part but with being accurate in discussing scientist investments.
I respect you.
But your attack on me is unwarranted.
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Who’s he getting covid from at a fishing camp? You can stock up supplies and stay at home there just as easily as at your primary home. Probably easier because you can catch your own protein source.
Neither is your elitist reply to someone that a person without a PhD is not a real scientist. Your daughter IS a real scientist. PhD or not.
I bow out of this discussion. Please carry on. If I will be posting, it will be all about shoes. 
I give up, Bunsen. Have a good afternoon. I’m sorry I upset you.
I’m assuming there’s a typo and this man is home now, and not “gone.” I hope so!
Anyway, do you have any info about how he is doing at home, if he’s home now as I hope?
I’m also wondering about people who were hospitalized but not put on a ventilator, which is the majority of hospitalized folks. When they go home from the hospital, how are they recovering?
Fishing camp, no. But if he stops staying at home, (“We’re the ones at risk but ‘sheltering at home’, ‘safer at home’, whatever goofy feel-good spin they put on curling up and waiting it out”) – which was the implication – he may get covid from a variety of other places.
I talked to my lung-recipient brother on the phone today & he told me he was down at U of Chicago Medical Center last week for a check up.
He was told UCMC has seen two lung recipients who were sick with C19 and both were treated & released.
So, shut my mouth. I would have thought a lung recipient + C19 would be a certain death sentence. Apparently not.
It is amazing who they can save now. We know of a man awaiting a heart transplant who got COVID, was quite sick, and pulled through. I do not think ventilators are the standard protocol anymore.
The ventilators were never the standard protocol for everyone, but docs now are finding more ways to avoid putting people on vents, and they’re also doing way better with mortality for people on vents than they were doing initially.
That’s something significant that was gained by flattening the curve, sheltering and waiting and staying healthy—better ideas of effectively treating c19, which hopefully leads to shorter and milder cases and much lower fatality.
I posted yesterday that my daughter has been furloughed for 4 weeks now. She received her first unemployment check yesterday for the 4th week, but not the extra $600.
So unemployed 4 weeks, has received one check without the $600 subsidy. She couldn’t get on chat or able to call. The wait for a reply with an email was approximately 42 days.
I saw an article that this is happening all over the country. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-15/millions-in-u-s-living-on-the-edge-waiting-for-jobless-benefits
I think that the narrative from the media and Twitter is that there are all these people who are sitting around collecting all of this unemployment money. But in actuality, they are sitting around getting no money, promises that they will, but no actual money. It’s not paying the bills.
My daughter is lucky. She’s a college educated engineer. Her company is still paying her health insurance. She makes more than what unemployment pays. She has a emergency fund. She has parents and grandparents who have offered to help her out.
When I posted what my person observations were about people not receiving any unemployment checks, I got no response here.
Carry on, and fight among yourselves
Does anyone have some sort of link that tracks colleges decisions on opening for fall 2020?
Here is an article about the Milwaukee municipal court judge who survived COVID-19. https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/milwaukee-judge-recalls-battle-with-covid-19-friendship-with-nurse-that-saved-his-life