@momzilla2D - they were not enforcing capacity limits at this restaurant/bar. The place’s FB page was slammed by people who basically said they’d never give a dollar to that bar again, and there was also a vocal minority saying the usual talking points that it’s a hoax, and that people are being controlled, etc. I know a lot of people whose kids go to OSU, and everyone is wondering what will happen in the fall. I am finding an interesting split between people in my own community who want to get back to work and are really annoyed that people are wearing masks (!), and those okay with things slowly opening up, but they are not going out except for necessary errands (eg, doctor appointments, grocery and pharmacy runs). I realize how privileged I am to be able to work from home every day, and part of the giving thanks is staying home for all the caregivers I know who cannot stay home, bc they are taking care of those who are sick.
My tennis podcast lady in the UK and who is fairly young (has twin 5 yr olds.) Not doing any better regarding stamina. Still can’t even walk a little way without feeling incredibly winded and exhausted. Not even thinking about when she will be able to run again.
Discussed how, though not constant, pressure like someone is sitting on her chest still happening every few days. That’s when she feels like it’s one step forward, two steps back. She was never hospitalized. Not nearly sick enough for that, according to her. Says her case was “mild.”
What a bizarre virus this is. So strange that both tests were negative, makes me wonder if we still don’t have tests that can give accurate test results.
Glad you are doing better now but it sounds like it was a long road
@“Cardinal Fang” my house cleaner (54 yo) was in my home to clean in early March. She was not feeling well that day. The next week she called to say she was very sick but would send her helper to clean if I wanted her to do so. At that point I discontinued service until it was advisable to resume. (I have been paying her regardless) She called a few weeks ago to tell me she was hospitalized and diagnosed with Covid-19 eight days after I saw her. She was very ill and remained in the hospital for about one week. (No ventilator). She wanted to let me know that she was available to start cleaning again whenever I was comfortable as she is completely recovered. So that was about 6 weeks from onset of symptoms to feeling well enough to return to (very physical) work. I wish we knew more about recovered patients and immunity. I would love to have my home professionally cleaned again!
Our kid in Kentucky who works part-time in a restaurant reports the place she works for is opening for dine-in this upcoming weekend.
We asked about capacity and she said inside the restaurant, 33% capacity limit, tables six feet apart. Patio has no limits as long as tables are six feet apart.
At the bar, they are taping the floor to mark the distance & putting 2 bar stools next to one another then the next pair six feet down.
I am not following the numbers of cases, hospitalizations and deaths as many sem to be on here. But yesterday I looked into the numbers as best I could for Palm Beach County.
This is a county of 1.5 million people, with most people living in conditions of moderate density. We have had approximately 4300 cases, 850 hospitalizations and 270 deaths. I do not care about case numbers - people who are infected but who do not require hospitalization just undergo one of life’s little annoyances. 850/1,500,000 = < 0.06% of the population hospitalized over 3 months or so. This level of risk does not register with me as anything particularly concerning.
There are many posters here with whom I disagree. Not surprising, considering what a polarized nation we are now. However, I don’t think a poster should tell another poster that she should stop posting because her position is offensive to some.
Just a thought for the moderators. Is it possible to have a disagree link? Maybe stated more diplomatically, such as “not sure that I agree” or even “politely disagree”. I know that this forum wants to avoid useless bickering, but I don’t see the point in engaging in PMs . Still, it is hard for me to overlook without comment a poster being essentially told to shut up, particularly when I typically very much agree
with her.
I ran across this graph on Axios:
It shows 40 states and divides them into three sections: decreasing hospitalizations (COVID-19), increasing, and stable.
Each little snapshot also lists the maximum percentage. For example, New Jersey shows a maximum of 40.4% and is decreasing and currently at 19.4%
There is a short article after the graph with discussion points.
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@scout59 and @HImom, I may have to leave my nursing job bc I’m scared of the incompetence I’m seeing. I can only control myself and my family’s actions to keep us healthy.
Cont. from my post #2884. I work part time and have been back 2 weeks now and I’m still not 100%. I get winded easily and I’m exhausted by the end of the day. My immediate manager has been great but incidents by some of the docs and upper management infuriates and terrifies me bc it is NOT best and safe practice for the HCWs or patients.
We’ve already had at least one exposure of staff and possibly patients that used the same OR bc a doc didn’t want to wait for the CV 19 test that turned out positive! This was an outpatient, non-emergent procedure. A few days later, two more cases where docs didn’t want to wait. Luckily, those tests came back negative, if not, more staff and patients would’ve been exposed! Btw, we’re only talking about a delay of an hour or so to wait for results. This is only a couple of egregious examples I’ve witnessed in my 2 weeks back working only part time.
H is high risk and WFH, we practice SD, wear our masks when out, get curbside pickup of groceries that I wipe down and my D and I disrobe in the mud room when we return from our work and we go right to the shower. Then, I go to work at a place where incompetence and flouting of the rules is allowed! I could go on with so many more examples but you get the idea.
So, H and I are seriously considering me resigning. We are financially sound with no debt. I am working for the healthcare benefits for me and D bc the ACA insurance is crazy expensive for us. My H is on his own plan at work, which is very reasonable for him, but for the 3 of us it would be $1700/mo! However, what’s the point of affordable healthcare if one of us ends up very ill with lasting effects or dies? We may have to go with my H’s expensive plan to decrease our risk from issues I can’t control at my work.
@momzilla2D, yes, I want to get an Ab test when I hear of a reputable one in our area. I’m curious as well.
Nope. Everyone we know firsthand (16-17 ppl) who were infected recovered at home and never needed to go to the hospital.
I posted yesterday that my brother said his MD told him UCMC had seen 2 lung recipients who had contracted C19 who were treated and released. No details.
A very distant relative of H’s (early 70s, diabetic) contracted C19 in Chicago, was hospitalized and died.
I don’t worry too much about increases in case counts, since it is influenced by availability of tests and reporting variations. But, I would be concerned with a high rate of cases per capita. I do think trends in hospitalizations are a better indication of progress. But OTOH, someone with a mild case is still contagious, even if not hospitalized. Of course, we all hope that we’ll be the ones with mild cases if/when we get it.
CAmathmom, I actually wonder if the reverse wouldn’t be better: I think the “like” and “agree” posts can create a mob mentality/popularity contest feel, and liked the site better without it.
On topic: Of the 10-12 people my parents have known with COVID, so far only one hospitalization; everyone else had cases ranging from mild-a bad case of the flu. These are mostly people in their 60s. Their friend who was in the hospital is 71 and otherwise healthy; his doctors gave him a 20 % chance of surviving given the amount of time he spent on a ventilator (2 weeks +).
He was released from rehab last week. He is still very, very weak, but getting better. It is unclear whether there will be permanent effects. Doctors said all of his organs besides the lungs seem to be functioning normally, but he’s getting out of breath very easily. He’s also still on a feeding tube, though they say that can come out soon, and is necessary because of the ventilator damage. I’m wondering if he would have been ventilated had he gotten sick a month later, or if they would have tried something less invasive.
My father has said that he has gotten noticeably better even in phone conversations; when they first spoke, not long after he woke up from his coma, he could only handle a few minutes on the phone and was obviously short of breath; now, 2-3 weeks later, he sounds normal for 15 minute conversations. So, he’s improving, but no telling when or if he’ll plateau.
My parents also know a couple in their 80s with COVID - the wife, who was otherwise in good health, seems to be recovering without ill effects. The husband is stable, but not in great shape; he has dementia and other health issues. He is still at his senior care facility, but might need hospitalization.
I like that one. Thanks for posting.
Testing alone wouldn’t do it. We would have had to have established airport screening that was effective. If we had handled things similarly to China and South Korea (and no, I’m not advocating for human rights abuses but the travel restrictions, and focus on most hard hit area and wide-spread monitoring elsewhere) we would been in much better shape. We did almost nothing and let the virus spread. Not getting testing going from the end of January to mid-March was devastating to our country. Even now we still do not have the type of rapid, wide spread testing needed to contain the virus.
Widespread testing across the country when outbreaks started along with contact tracing and quarantine would have helped greatly at slowing the spread at the very least if not containing it to only certain regions. Doing so now would do the same.
@suteiki77
And PPE shortages, and mixed messaging on masks,…
I still don’t know anyone who has been ill with COVID. I don’t even know anyone who has said they know someone with it.
I hope I can say the same in a month.
My D has 2 friends in NYC who believe they had it, as well one friend in LA. They all recovered at home and had “mild cases” and were never tested. Not sure about whether they still are recovering.
My UCSF lung doc has had 2 family members die from C19, as well as conferred with folks in NY and around the world to share medical info about it.
I don’t personally know anyone who has had covid as 639 cases in our state and most have recovered.
If you go to this website (https://www.tmj4.com/news/positively-milwaukee) and click on “Milwaukee Judge shares his experience with COVID-19,” you can watch a short video in which the judge and a nurse are interviewed.
Why in the world would anyone during this pandemic be upset that someone else is choosing to wear a mask???