I do know someone whose parents were diagnosed with COVID-19, but did not (at the time) need to stay in the hospital. Did not hear anything further.
Of course, various cold and flu like symptoms are common, so it is possible that some may have had COVID-19 without knowing it. However, in some cases that I know of, it was diagnosed as the (real) flu.
Absolutely! I would like to know how representative Creekland’s son is. What percent of people who recover from covid are still suffering from shortness of breath, fevers, or fatigue, six weeks after the start of their infection?
I just thought it would be easier to measure recovery stats for people who’d been discharged from the hospital. They aren’t the only ones who have sequelae, but they are the most likely ones. If we looked at the people discharged from the hospital, we’d get a lower bound. And then of course I’d like to know the information by age.
I have at least a hundred relatives in the NYC metro area, with probably the largest concentration in Westchester and Nassau Counties. I haven’t heard of a single illness from COVID among them, and certainly none has died from it. My 81 year old mother lives in Westchester. None of her friends has been affected.
However, the father of a friend in Nassau County recently died, attributed to COVID. He had suffered a severe stroke a month or so before and was unable to walk or move one side of his body. He was never put on a ventilator, and frankly I doubt he actually died of COVID, although I accept he died with it. Hard to say. Once he was admitted into rehabilitation after the stroke, no one in his family was ever able to see or speak with him again.
Seems like if you are using the same station for a long period of time, and someone else is using the same nearby station for a long period of time (e.g. both of you are doing cardio on nearby machines for 15 or 30 minutes), the longer term proximity may allow you and the other person to pass the virus more easily if either of you is contagious. Perhaps if you are doing circuit training (moving from one station to another frequently), that may minimize the proximity to any one other person in the gym.
There’s at least one gym locally who is going to start having outdoor classes. However, here in MD, groups are still limited to less than 10 people so any classes they have will still be limited to 9 people. At the moment, they are using the parking lot. It hasn’t been an issue since business is fairly limited in that shopping center (some closed, some open for curbside service), so the parking lot is available. Unfortunately, we are predicted to have a rainy week, so their first week “open” won’t be too successful due to the weather.
I’m in MA and have not known anyone personally that has had Covid19. I am aware that the husband of a colleague was positive. He is in his late 40s and works in a nursing home. After spending two weeks in the basement with minor symptoms he was declared well and allowed to come upstairs. No one else in the family had any symptoms. I also just found out today that the mother of someone my husband went to high school with died in a nursing home. That’s as close as it’s come.
I live in a small rural town 100 miles north of NYC. Our town covers 43 square miles and has 3,00-odd people in 1,000-odd homes. I personally know 3 people, luckily all were OK, not hospitalized. The first to get sick is a masseuse, who probably got it from her close contact with someone from NYC in early March. One woman, who owned a shop in town for 25 years retired last year, moved to NYC and got COVID and died.
I don’t know anyone personally who tested positive for covid.
My cousin thinks my 85yo aunt had it since she lives in NY and had the classic symptoms. She was too stubborn to get checked out and recovered in several weeks.
S1 had a bad cough and felt lousy sometime earlier this year, but before covid was the first thing anyone thought of. He felt bad enough that he went to see the dr. (something he never does), had a negative flu test, and thought nothing else of it. Once covid hit everyone’s radar, he began to wonder if that was what he had.
My FIL and his cousin, both live on Long Island (Nassau County) and had the virus pretty bad. FIL was home sick for 3 weeks (High fever, cough, loss of appetite, etc.).
In LA county, I don’t know of anyone personally who has gotten sick from the virus but I know my neighbor RN who works at the local hospital was handling many severe CV-19 cases last month.
FDA Halts Coronavirus Testing Program Backed by Bill Gates
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/coronavirus-testing-seattle-bill-gates.html
They are the same group that was doing the flu study in Seattle in early January and could have caught Covid 19 back then but they were not allowed to do so.
I think this is a big mistake and will hurt the country and cause more spread, more economic damage. We need this type of testing.
I live in the south, with numerous in-laws scattered across the country, and don’t know anyone personally who has had Covid19.
Our county has had few cases. Maybe that’s why I see so many people posting rants on Nextdoor and Facebook about mask wearing. If they don’t know anyone who has suffered, or died, due to Covid19 then they may find it easier to believe it’s not a big deal. One doctor posted a plea for people to consider others and wear a mask; he was mocked, belittled and told he was spreading fear to which they refused to succumb.
This morning I made a quick run to a liquor store for birthday presents. There were signs on the door and 6 ft. floor markings, but the two employees were not wearing masks. The one other customer who arrived while I was there was wearing a mask, as did I. The cashier thanked me multiple times for my purchase (I also bought Father’s Day and other gifts today, to make the trip worthwhile.) I don’t expect to return until November or December.
Gates should take the testing program to another country who will appreciate the work he and his foundation are doing regarding Covid-19.
I think it’s likely the FDA and Gates will work out the details. Seems reasonable that FDA should have oversight of tests.
Wow, it’s like the FDA really hates Seattle or really doesn’t want to fight covid-19.
The FDA’s rationale for ordering the halt appears to be an objection that researchers are telling participants their test results, which requires extra scrutiny. They’d be fine if the results were kept secret from the participants. So strange when you can go do a drive-in test.
I don’t know how reliable anecdotal evidence is. I’ve been following some of the reports out from other countries via news sources.
Scotland is and will be doing studies:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52506669
Vox has a bit of info:
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms
Honestly it’s not looking promising for those it affects and they can’t quite figure out who’s going to draw the short straw. My lad was just as healthy or healthier than his wife TBH. Why him and not her (not wishing anything bad on her!).
I’m holding out hope my lad might have just had pneumonia because that doesn’t seem as bad (had it myself in my younger years). It’s also not contagious so could explain why she didn’t get it - not sure how he got it though. Lots of questions. Few answers.
Time could provide more.
We’re definitely in the sheltering crowd, though med school lad won’t be able to, of course. He’s still 100% in the camp of trying hard to avoid it - as are others he works with. They’ve seen what it can do when it turns bad and how random it can be even when one survives. It seems to be those who haven’t who feel like it’s no big deal.
I’m also in the camp of letting folks choose what camp they want to be in. I just want it to apply to employees too. People on here seem to put them all on one side or the other. I know employees (and owners of companies) on both sides. Let them decide. If they want to go back to work, go. If they’d prefer to shelter and wait it out, still provide assistance like unemployment and food banks. No stigma to either choice and those who want to shelter need to do that - no heading out to bars or similar partying away while still getting assistance.
Yes, that’s the catch – for many people (particularly as one goes down the income scale), the choice of weighing personal risk factors in deciding whether to go back to work, or go back to work in a modified way (e.g. remote work, modified workplace arrangement for social distancing, etc.), is not so much a personal choice as it is their employer’s choice imposed on them.
It is no surprise that those with lower income are more likely to get infected with the virus and get serious effects from it, and suffer the economic consequences from the virus.
Yes, designing a system to assist those with genuine high risk of virus situations without enabling this kind of “cheating” can be rather difficult. (Similar to disability insurance.)
I read the Vox article. It’s frustrating how much we still don’t know. Some covid-19 survivors have some of a variety of bad or terrible side effects. How many have these side effects? We don’t know. How long do they last? We don’t know. Are they permanent? Some definitely are. Others, we don’t know.
Not sure where you are located, but I know the eastern area of state definitely has labs/facilities that are doing antibody testing. I’ve been thinking about going. Quest has them for $75. There are some walk-in clinics that have them as well, but they are more expensive.
It seems like people are getting more and more lax about SD between neighbors, friends, etc. Just an observation
We visited my OOS brother and his family this past Thursday. We socially distanced and only stayed about an hour. It was my nephew’s birthday. What’s been holding us back is the weather - it’s been so cold and too unpleasant to spend time outside. Yesterday a friend stopped by to drop something off. Again, we were probably 10’ apart but it was a lovely day, and she stayed for about 15 minutes. I think as the weather improves we will do more small social distancing gatherings with friends and/or relatives.