Yup to both. It was my assumption, and my friend’s assumption (who knows this man.) I wonder if he had any insurance… what a painful way to learn its importance if he didn’t 
According to https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/illinois , movement in Illinois bottomed out at -56% compared to normal 3/31 to 4/4, and was -44% compared to normal on 5/4. (Most states bottomed out in early April, though at different levels compared to normal.)
It is possible that behavior will oscillate – when reducing activity slows the spread of the virus, causing people to be confident enough to go out again, increasing the virus’ spread, increasing the fear of the virus, causing people to reduce their activity, slowing the spread of the virus, causing people to be confident enough to go out again, increasing the virus’ spread, …
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Sure it is compliant, but the ACA allows big deductibles and expensive premiums. If he has an $8000 deductible and then a 80/20 split of the other charges, he could be looking at $20k. And in the quote, the GoFundMe is mostly for his family to live on NOW.
It’s also possible that he doesn’t have insurance. A lot of people can’t afford the premiums so don’t buy the insurance through their employer.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90505057/what-to-expect-on-your-first-day-back-in-a-touch-free-socially-distant-office The URL says it all.
Most of the stuff that is reopening can be quickly shut down again if need be. We’ve ‘reopened’ but not to schools, restaurants, gyms, factories, public libraries, government offices, courts. Some retail has reopened for 4-6 hours a day and could be shut again in a minute. Hair salons are open for one customer at a time and can close again by locking the door. Reservations at state campgrounds can easily be cancelled. I can’t think of one thing that would be a problem to close again.
Restaurants in my city are now allowed to be open at 25% capacity with a few other rules. They can also set up seating outside in parking lots so it should be interesting to see how that shakes out. Tent rentals will be up! It’s getting hot outside too.
I drove by one restaurant and saw people eating inside and it felt a bit creepy. This restaurant won a JB award for best new restaurant when it first opened so it felt like strange reaction to me. I think when H and I venture out to dine we will make sure to sit outside and will bring out own utensils and glassware. Maybe our own napkins too, lol. One step up from a picnic. Hopefully no ants or mosquitos.
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From his GoFundMe:
“While we wish him well, wishes don’t feed the little ones or keep a roof over their heads. The medical expenses alone will be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars as he has been in ICU for weeks and will be for many more weeks.”
My interpretation is different. Seems to me like asking for money for everything - as if they can’t feed their kids or pay rent/mortgage they are going to need help with medical bills, too.
I have no problem with anyone using GoFundMe. I just find it sad that in the richest country in the world it comes down to people unable to afford medical insurance.
But that is a topic for another day.
As to gyms, I will not be going to any exercise class in a gym any time soon. I already didn’t think that was a good idea, but that February outbreak in South Korea, from aerobic instructors teaching Zumba classes, sealed the deal. There was an aerobic instructors’ conference, where one instructor infected some others, and then they went back home and infected their students. In total, 26% of students in classes taught by infected teachers themselves became infected. And of course a number of other people were also infected.
I’m amazed by S. Korea’s superb contact tracing. In the paper describing the outbreak, the authors talked about primary, secondary, tertiary and quaternary contacts. They traced down four steps in the infection chain!
Interestingly, at least one of the infected aerobics instructors also taught yoga. No yoga students were infected.
No, it’s not hard to shut down again in the physical sense. But psychology it will be. And even more devastating to the economy. And since a second wave will undoubtably be worse (if you believe historical data) likely will need to be shut down much longer.
I’m in a hot spot and I took my son to a local field to practice on Saturday. There are 4 full size turf fields at this location. Each one had people practicing at the end of each field while we were there. The person in charge of fields in our town was there when I showed up, he’s a friend of mine. I spoke to him(while social distancing with a neck gaiter over my mouth and nose, as did he) for 5 minutes while my son stretched and started his warm up. He said they finally had to shut down the field to residents of our town only because parents from several surrounding towns were coming there. He now calls in license plates of people he doesn’t recognize from town to the police. If they’re out-of-towners he makes them leave.
Good article, thanks.
My kids office already is mostly touch free already, but he told me they don’t expect to be back in their offices until at least September, at the earliest. Have a lot more to do and will be moving probably half their employees to an entirely different building they were getting ready to occupy, due to expected expansion of workforce.
I work for an organization with a staff of about 90 people. Almost all of us have been working from home since March 17. The latest word from the management team is that it’s unlikely all employees will be in the building at the same time before the end of 2020, and even then, all of us probably won’t regularly be in the building.
Getting employees back probably will be the easy part of opening up; the organization is a professional association, and in “normal” times, the building is open to members and is the site of meetings and other gatherings ranging in size from two people to a few hundred. My boss said last week that the last people to be let back into the building will be the members.
I have dental work scheduled for next week. They will test me for COVID 4 days before. I am a little nervous, heard the test was a little painful. I wish they give me antibody test instead.
I think it’s tied to breathing and distance. In an aerobics class people breathe faster as their heart rate goes up & they typically are standing up & moving about, fairly close together. So much more virus in the air in an enclosed room.
Most forms of Yoga (other than “hot” yoga) are slowing things down – and because people will be lying on the ground on their yoga mats, they generally are spaced somewhat farther apart. So deeper, slower breathing – which means that the viral particles probably don’t travel as far.
@Nhatrang Been going through dental implant procedure since October 2019. April and May appointments cancelled. No clue when I might be going again. As a first responder I’ve been registered for antibody test since late April and still waiting. I will be reluctant to have dental work until I confirm if I’ve been exposed or not. Then I’ll make an educated decision. Stinks getting this close to the end and having to wait☹️
A 28 year school facilities guy with 3 kids is likely to be struggling to feed his kids even before COVID. I hope the go fund me page works for him
Agreed. And in many forms of yoga there is no shared equipment. It’s you and your mat that no one else uses.
@greenwitch I’m in CT. I thought our restaurants had to have not reusable anything…so that would include utensils, plates, napkins…even menus. Am I wrong about that?
@twoinanddone in this state a lot of manufacturing was considered essential and never shut down, including some factories.
My kid’s office will probably do the staggered thing, too. And since everyone already had capacity to work from home - it wasn’t difficult for them to make the transition back in early March, so they are well situated to do the staggered day thing, too.
Lord only knows what it will be like in the Capital Building where my H works. It’s like going back in a time warp when you go into the office parts. He’s got his own, huge office with windows, but regular staff are in cubbies squished everywhere - with those half walls, no windows in a lot of the spaces, either.
Looks like this site got an update:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/alabama
Mobility data updated to 4/10 or 4/11 for the various US states; case and death counts updated to somewhat later than that for the various US states.
For mobility, Alabama residents seem to be closest to “normal” at -14%, followed by Mississippi at -16% and Idaho at -19%. Alabama and Mississippi death counts appear to be on an upward trend, while Idaho had few deaths and appears to be on a downward trend.
District of Columbia residents appear to be moving the least compared to “normal” at -69%, followed by New York at -61% and Massachusetts at -60%. All have a downward trend in deaths, but high numbers of deaths relative to their populations.