Coronavirus May 2020 - Observations, information, discussion

Florida had such good success by implementing CDC recommendations rigorously.

I assume we should believe what Tallahassee says - and what Beijing says. No one is covering up numbers trying to make themselves look better. They say so! Ignore voices that say otherwise, esp if they were in a position to, maybe, know.

News from the Land of Lincoln! Pritzker allows outdoor seating for bars and restaurants, with restrictions, in Phase 3.

Quoted press release below:

Governor Pritzker Announces Updates to Phase 3 of Restore Illinois Plan in Consultation with Health Experts

Bars and Restaurants Can Open for Outdoor Seating, All State Parks to Open

Wednesday, May 20, 2020 - Governor, Office of the
Chicago - Building on a robust, statewide effort to ensure Illinois can safely reopen and following the data, science, and guidance from public health experts and stakeholders across the state, Governor Pritzker announced updates to Phase 3 of the state’s Restore Illinois plan.

“We are by no means out of the woods, but directionally, things are getting better. And because of these advances, we are able to make some modifications to allow more activity during Phase 3 of our reopening plan Restore Illinois,” said Governor JB Pritzker. “Our mission has always been to get people back to work, get students back to school and return to as much normalcy as possible without jeopardizing the health and safety of Illinoisans.”

In the coming days, the state and IDPH will be issuing formal industry-specific guidance, particularly around workplaces and childcare, for business owners and employees in these and other sectors.

Bars and Restaurants

With Phase 3, bars and restaurants will have the option to resume operations for outdoor seating only. Tables must be six feet apart and away from the sidewalks, masks and distancing measures for staff must continue to be followed, and other precautions and guidance will be issued.

These measures will allow restaurants to re-open at a risk comparable to other outdoor activities, while giving the state’s hospitality industry a much-needed boost.

Municipalities are encouraged to help restaurants and bars expand their outdoor seating options.

To date, the administration has delivered over $14 million in small business grants averaging $20,000 to 699 bars, restaurants, and hotels across 270 individual cities in Illinois.

Outdoor Activities

With the start of phase 3, all state parks will reopen on May 29. All concession will reopen as well under guidelines set for our retail and food service businesses in Phase 3. Illinois will permit the re-opening of indoor and outdoor tennis facilities with Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) safety precautions and capacity limits.

For golf, in Phase 3, courses can allow foursomes out on the same tee times. Carts will also be permitted with one person per cart, or one immediate household per cart.

With the new ten person gathering limit for all activities in Phase 3, boating or camping with up to ten people will be permitted.

The state will be providing guidance on how other outdoor recreational businesses, such as driving ranges, outdoor shooting ranges, and paintball courses can safely open their doors in Phase 3.

Health Clubs, Retail, and Personal Care Services

In Phase 3, health clubs, gyms, and fitness studios can provide one-on-one personal training in indoor facilities and outdoor fitness classes of up to ten people.

Personal care services, like nail salons, tattoo shops, hair braiders, spas and barbershops, can open with IDPH safety precautions and capacity limits.

And all retail stores can open their doors to in-person shopping with IDPH safety precautions and capacity limits in place.

Local governments retain the right to establish stricter restrictions in any areas.

“The Governor’s action to allow for expanded outdoor dining options will benefit many restaurants at a time when every dollar counts and provides a glimmer of light at the end of this long, COVID-19 tunnel. Innovative outdoor dining strategies extend a lifeline - restoring jobs and offering guests the hospitality experience they’ve been missing while prioritizing public health and safety. Outdoor dining will not help every restaurant, but it is a constructive step in the right direction,” said Sam Toia, President & CEO of the Illinois Restaurant Association.

“The Allied Golf Associations of Illinois are grateful that we had the opportunity to collaborate with the Governor’s office to propose safely lifting some of the restrictions that had been in place for golf. The Phase 3 changes will allow more people to enjoy the physical and mental benefits of the game, and do so in a way that is safe for both golfers and facility staff,” said Carrie Williams, Executive Director of the Illinois PGA and Illinois PGA Foundation.

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Florida’s visitors equal 6.1 times its population. Maine’s tourists equal 26.9 times its population.


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This is a laughable idea. It is so disconnected from reality that you must have no idea of how these places are staffed. Not by well paid trained professionals with job security.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930588

Great summary. The two points that struck me were

I think “age-based sheltering” means an attempt to segregate vulnerable elders from everyone else. I think they’re saying having elders stay at home, and letting everyone else off the leash, isn’t going to protect the elders.

Thanks @my3girls . I got the link finally to post in post # 3459. The great news in the youtube update from yesterday (see the link in that post) is that transmission drops off precipitously after day 5 of symptom onset. (long video with a lot of complicated data, but watch at about minute 53)

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/22819346/#Comment_22819346

The leadership of the Unitarian Universalists is recommending virtual services until May 2021.
https://www.uua.org/pressroom/press-releases/message-uua-president-updated-guidance-gathering

Most of the Florida media outlets lean in a different direction than DeSantis, so there is no love lost. If you have any proof or indicators that the Florida numbers are misstated, any Florida paper would be thrilled to know and have a chance to publish that.

Meantime, even if Florida’s death rate was understated by half, it would still have a tiny fraction of the NY death rate. Yet oddly, I’m not seeing any headlines about New York Morons…

It’s great that Florida has not had the outbreaks in nursing homes. I was struck by the comment that they had adequate PPE for workers. And I remembered back early on when governors were making requests from the federal supply and some states got 100%+ of what they asked for, while others got 10%. And I wondered how that affected the ability to protect people in those states. Something else to look at when this all is over.

Has NY dismissed anyone keeping track of the numbers? If so, it should make headlines.

It’s interesting that NYU is going to re-open for classes this fall. It follows Notre Dame’s announcement.

Could be here, but behind a subscription / membership wall:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930588

Hmmm… I got the link to work as did @my3girls https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930588

(I do have a medscape subscription, but it was free)

Except it was one of the most rich states in teh world that was sending sick patients back to their group living situations.

Moreover, putting first priority on protecting the elderly – when they were the most at risk – was just common sense, and some of us were recommending such protections back in March on the other thread. The fact that 40+ state medical directors chose not to…

UT update: https://president.utexas.edu/messages-speeches-2020/fall-2020-planning-update-may-20?fbclid=IwAR1q97LFW2YzFl_Upa57v189CArJzrjB27q0eLh8azIDDuOMg8uhz1mzThc

@ucbalumnus - the medscape link has an option to register for free.

Yes, that article showed that supplies were given out based on the state population, not what the state requested. So states that requested an amount proportionate to their population received most/all of what they requested, where tiny population states that requested many times their population’s worth of PPE only received a portion of what they requested. So the supplies were doled out according to population. Obviously different states made different decisions on how to deploy their share of supplies received.

https://www.propublica.org/article/heres-why-florida-got-all-the-emergency-medical-supplies-it-requested-while-other-states-did-not

The system appears to roughly conform to states’ populations, rather than the size of their requests. Florida, a state of 21 million, got all 180,000 N95 masks it wanted. Oregon, a state of 4 million, only received 40,000 of the 400,000 masks it requested, and New Jersey, a state of 9 million, got 85,000 of the 2.9 million masks it feels it needs.

Cuomo has definitely made mistakes but he owns up to them and often says if wishes he knew then what he knows now. But it spread like wildfire in the metro area and they had to do everything on the fly while hospitals were being overrun.

It’s easy to criticize and I only hope when the second wave hits - in places that haven’t seen the worse of it in the first, still ongoing, wave, they have learned from it. Unfortunately, I don’t think many states have, if how they are opening up is any indication.