Fortunately, science tells us that even the children with severe health conditions rarely have COVID complications. Kids are exposed and get COVID as often as adults, but have far fewer hospitalizations,and very very few deaths, and that includes kids with conditions
You’re right, @momzilla2D and @MomofJandL. Indeed, I should have applied Hanlon’s law. I allowed myself to sloppily be blinded by prejudices.
@MomofWildChild good for your daughter! It’s so similar to what our pastor said last Sunday. Nice to see wise religious leaders putting the safety of their congregations first.
600 children have died from Influenza this year. To date, 12 have died of the Kawasaki type virus following Covid19 assuming they died of the KV and not with KV.
Interestingly, the death rate for teachers in NYC public schools has been roughly 1/4 the rate of the general population there. I bet that most teachers who caught the virus caught it the way everyone else did in the city: crowded buses and subways, intra-familial spread, social gatherings in confined spaces…
Personally, I am tired of hearing teachers whine about exposure rates. I have seen speculation and some evidence that kids are not significant transmission vectors for C19. Can anyone point to some stats that show that teachers have fared worse with regard to C19 outcomes versus similar age and risk cohorts in the non-teacher world??
Whatever their health conditions, we now know that college-aged, high-school-aged and younger people have a minuscule risk of death from covid. K-12 age even have a minuscule risk of hospitalization.
Where did you get this information that the funding will come out of local school budgets? Do you have a cite for this?
TYIA.
No. I don’t think I ever went in beyond dipping a toe. Besides that, the water ran fast as I was sunning in spring and water was high from snow melt in the Rockies.
NYC schools provide free breakfasts and lunches over the summer. Last year, at least, the program was operated by the Department of Education and paid for by the US Department of Agriculture.
Interestingly, I am told teachers have a much lower rate of COVID complications and death in Texas too. Some speculate it is because they have been exposed to so many corona viruses in their daily work.
So I just asked my husband as he’s come up for air about this. He just happens to be a Chief Budget Examiner for NYS.
He said, “what the heck are you talking about?” “There are a dozen different programs, mostly Federal, which will fund this, including provisions in the recently passed CARES ACT.”
It will not be coming out of local school budgets.
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I would think they are not. If what they are telling us is true, the virus is spreading primarily through microscope droplets that are expelled through the nose and mouth. If children are actually getting the virus, but never have symptoms, it means their viral load is low- thus chances of spread are lower than someone who’s got the full virus. But we don’t know this, they may not even be getting the virus at all, which means they wouldn’t spread it. They really should be doing mass antibody testing on children to determine this, so we can better understand it.
Interestingly, if large amounts of children do have antibodies (meaning they had the virus unknowingly) then they could have “herd immunity” in school.
Personally, I hear way more whining about states not reopening the economy fast enough than I do teachers whining about exposure risk. (The teachers I know are too busy teaching online to be whining. )
YMMV.
Could it be because school shut down completely everywhere in March, teachers didn’t get exposed nearly as much as they would have if schools had remained open?
The budgets and funds for certain programs have been in the papers lately but some things moving so fast that I can’t always keep up.
The Denver breakfast program has been in effect for years. It is paid for by a grant (private or federal, I’m sure) and open to any student (no need to qualify for free lunch). The individual schools can do one of 3 things - serve in cafeteria before school, a grab and go, or serve in the classrooms once school has started. Most do the service in the cafeteria, which means most students don’t get it because they aren’t in school early. My daughter’s middle school, for example, served it from 6:45 to 7:10 and school started at 7:35. The kids just weren’t there early enough. My sister teaches 4th grade and doesn’t allow food in her classroom so her kids would have to get there early too (although grade school classes don’t start until 8:30).
The summer programs are at certain schools. The lunch pick up programs this spring are also only at a few schools and really require a car for pick up. They are letting people pick up a week’s worth of food at once, and I don’t think are terribly picky about the number of lunches they are picking up.
I’m sure the rec center lunches are also a federal program and probably prepared at schools and transported to the rec centers.
Maybe, but many offices shut down around the same time, and the parents of kids in school generally stopped working then as well. Some doctors have speculated that the same frequent prior exposure to corona virus that teachers have is also responsible for the mild or asymptomatic degree of illness in children, who also have frequent prior exposure.
This is an interesting statistic, but did they adjust for age? The death rate for any group that is the age of NYC teachers should be around 1/4 the rate of the general population, probably less.
Yes, they have and they’ve lightened up on deaths overall.
They’ve changed the format up but I believe they’re currently projecting Sweden to have 502 deaths/MM by August, which is yet another dizzying revision to add to their record of ups and downs. And, what a change from only a few weeks ago when their modeled projection was 1700+/MM.
I’ll be blunt: their model is essentially garbage. If any official planning was done on this one, it was a mistake.
I’m in Alabama, a state line away from Mississippi, and there’s not much more than a dimes worth of difference between the two. The IHME model, for an extended period of time, had Alabama suffering over 5000 deaths, while Mississippi never got much over 1000.
(Shrugged it off at the time as just a misunderstanding: that for some reason the scientists had been assured we in Alabama were still sleeping 8 to the corn crib, snugged up with our sisters and cousins, but they’d mostly given that up in Mississippi.)
I don’t know why anybody looks at that IHME model. It’s not good. It’s not good at all.
Alabama seems to be suffering an outbreak in the Montgomery area. The ICUs are almost full. Hopefully this is the peak.
Had no idea it was so bad in Montgomery.
“The mayor of Montgomery, Alabama, says the city’s health care system has been “maxed out” as cases of coronavirus have more than doubled in May—a sharp contrast to the slowing coronavirus spread that’s taken place across much of the U.S.—while city businesses were allowed to reopen May 11, even as it appeared that Alabama hadn’t hit White House reopening guidelines.”
“Major hospitals in the Montgomery area have run out of ICU beds, Mayor Steven Reed said at a news conference Wednesday, while others only one or two beds left.
Patients in need of care are now instead being sent 90 miles away to Birmingham, Alabama, the mayor said, a step the city hasn’t had to take until now.
Over 470 people have tested positive in Montgomery over the past two weeks, the Alabama Political Reporter notes, while the city only had a cumulative total of 355 cases going into May.
With cases quickly rising, the city was placed on an unreleased White House hotspot watch list on May 7, according to NBC News, which obtained a copy of the report.
But despite the rapid spread, businesses in the city were allowed to reopen starting May 11, after Governor Kay Ivey officially moved Alabama into Phase 1 of its reopening.”