H & I are doing great. I am back to barbell training like normal, and I hiked 3.5 miles yesterday without a problem. No one in the transmission chain from H’s work has complained of lingering troubling symptoms. We were all sick beginning to mid-April.
My sense of smell is coming back, but it’s still weak.
I’m not discounting what you are saying. There could be lasting damage, depending on the severity of the infection, right? IDK
But I thought I’d chime in with our little small sample size because there has been a sea of scary bad news.
Referring back to 3549, a post by one more to go. I just realized we don’t live in the same city. The only dog friendly beach in Palm Beach County is in Jupiter.
My friend’s brother is still pretty ill. He is on oxygen and pretty lethargic. At least he’s better.
I just visited with my friend at the Audubon preserve in the next town. We stayed at a distance from each other. We had a picnic and hiked. It’s the first friend I’ve seen socially for more than two months. Felt odd! We each have a 20-something son who’s a pain, so we commiserated.
LOTS of traffic on the highway. You would think it was Memorial Day weekend in Maine or something. Gulp. I’m thinking the visitors with the out of state plates probably aren’t quarantining as they’re supposed to. I am planning on staying in the house through Monday. I don’t want contact with any out-of-staters.
The narrative of senior living providers having positive cases transferred into the community is not a false narrative.
1, You can drive a Mack truck through the qualifier “with some exceptions”
2. If you transfer the patient before the test results are back, they are not a “known coronavirus patient”, but the end result is the same.
3. I know of one outbreak(not in NY) where the first 9 positive test results came from the hospital. This is not an isolated example. Unfortunately, I have many more.
PPE supply orders of senior living providers were diverted to hospitals, while positive residents were transferred into the senior living provider.
This country abandoned senior living providers. These cases were not isolated to New York, and occurred throughout the country.
The latest on that “promising” Moderna covid vaccine. You pump up a drug, then sell 30 million dollars worth of stock. At least it delivered on a promise to enrich a few execs.
Plenty of people are interested in long term effects, but since this is a new disease there isn’t any data, or very little. A lot of doctors, patients, researchers, and public policy experts want to know the answer. It is not that no one is interested, it is that no one knows enough to educate us.
And it mystifies me that you keep asking about people deliberately infecting themselves. I can think of 1000 reasons why that is a terrible idea. To protect high risk patients? No, can’t think of anyone who wants to risk lung damage and blood clots if infection is potentially avoidable.
Halleluiah! I am all for someone making a lot of money selling vaccines and treatments. I haven’t followed the specific vaccine programs, and don’t know how much government money has been spent on development, but capitalists chasing profits have done more to improve lives than governments promising handouts.
It appears right now, two months after some people had covid, that the after-effects can be as different as the symptoms.
One friend who had covid – she’s a hospital nurse in NYC – had a light case, but complains of lingering aches in her kidneys and joints. Another friend, who thinks he got infected on a business trip, has no after effects after a similarly light case, although it took him twice as long as the nurse to regain his full strength.
A virologist said on CNN the other day that each week he learns a new surprising thing about covid, and thinks we may discover all kinds of other unexpected ways it attacks and affects the human body.
Yeah, it seems like a no brainer that in order to learn what the “long term” effects of an illness are, you need…you know, data that covers a “long term.” You don’t get long term data on an illness that is only months old.
Long term is relative. For those of us having someone affected, we’d like to know if more people who had lingering effects are getting better - or not. I’d like to see current research data from many sources even if it’s ongoing.
X were known to have problems. Y are better with an average recovery time of ___. Z aren’t yet.
I like hearing data points from folks who have felt better.
If there were a bit of positive data (vs anecdotes) about that, I think it would inspire many to be less concerned.
The question was more for those who apparently believe that the risks of COVID-19 are minimal and/or that COVID-19 infection before a vaccine or effective treatment is available is inevitable, not for those who believe that the risk of COVID-19 and significant enough to want to avoid infection and that they can avoid it long enough for a vaccine or effective treatment to become available.
We are probably going to find out that some people recover completely, others struggle for some as of now undefined time period and eventually recover, and others suffer lasting, permanent effects. Time will tell, and right now it’s too early.
The Chinese and South Koreans seem to be doing some pretty rigorous tracking and research on both sick and recovering patients. Since it hit the Chinese first, looking at their data should begin to provide some answers. But this is still going to take a long time to truly understand the impact of this illness on human beings.
Third time at the gym in the past three days in Palm Beach County. No temperature check today before entering, unlike the last two days. Not a single mask in sight. Hopefully they take the tape off the water fountains soon and then we’ll be back to normal.
It’s really hard not to say I told you so on my Facebook page. And tourist season is just starting. The TV station interviewed out of staters traveling up today and they all admitted they’re not going to quarantine.
With all the talk about long term after-effects, I keep thinking about Nick Cordero, who was admitted to the hospital on March 31, with covid related pneumonia, had to have his leg amputated and is still in the hospital fighting for his life. I know he is probably a statistically rare severe case for a 41 year old. But it’s the random nature of how serious the effects of this disease can be that are frightening. If Cordero ever gets well enough to be discharged, he’s looking at a terribly difficult recovery not only as an amputee, but he will likely have breathing issues, weakness, and all the other things we’ve heard on top of it. Just awful.
Reported this week that Illinois now leads the nation in COVID tests per capita.
There is significantly more testing being done in May than in the previous months (see below).
We (Illinois) are expected to meet the metrics (positivity rate, hospital capacity) to move to the next phase of gradual re-opening next week…
I posted this earlier in the week about a report from Dan Diamond on Politico’s Pulse Check podcast:
He says in the 3 month span of February, March, and April, the US conducted a total of about 6 million tests for SARS-CoV-2. He says the US has ramped up testing capacity significantly and is on track to do 8 million tests in May alone.
Diamond says although the US is still not where it needs to be re: testing according to public health experts, the trajectory is promising. I seem to recall him saying our per capita testing is now greater than South Korea.
He says one metric to keep an eye on is the positivity rate, as testing expands & SIP orders are relaxed.
