What about your co-workers taking care of their parents. We order food for my mom, arrange car maintenance for her, and I am with her this weekend to keep her company. I have been very vigilant about staying home, but knowing I was coming out to see her I have been even more careful.
My 85 year old mom does online banking and trading. In the last 2 years she has made enough money that she is complaining about taxes she has to pay . Of course, I am her go to system admin whenever her computer doesn’t work. She is on FB, Zoom, IM, email, etc. We did have a bit of a glitch few days ago when she paid $1340.00 to her electric company instead of $134. Luckily we got alerted and corrected it pretty quickly.
There’s a persistent prediction being voiced, that we’ll end up having a second wave so bad that the shut-down in response to it will be much more damaging to the economy than this last has been.
Couldn’t disagree more and don’t feel the need to explain why, since those predicting the above haven’t.
(Not me, but I suspect someone here’s got a pad of Post-Its and a whiteboard, and when they’ve time they’ll assemble the great big board of predictions. Not for gloating or recrimination, but so credit for the more correct predictions can be given where due.)
"Everyone needs to stop yelling at each other. It has been happening for all too long and our community is tired.
There were two different rallies in town yesterday. We knew about them, we decided not to cover them. Arguments on both sides of the issue have been covered at length. Another public hoo-rah wasn’t going to make any difference.
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Thanks to our county commissioners for banding across party lines for a message of unity, as seen on this page.
I was also encouraged this week by _______ who made a point to say the _______ launched by his office was the idea of his political competitor, _________. Another small sign of hope."
All written by the editor of the small town newspaper we subscribe to. I love our little hometown newspaper!
I find myself agreeing with you, more and more, Fang… just thought it needed to be said.
Agree with the above, but there has been a fair amount of behavior and hygiene modification accomplished and I doubt that’s going to fade away (for most) anytime soon.
@Creekland , you are fortunate indeed to have an independent local newspaper!
It looks like the paper cites two underlying studies on homemade mask efficiency, neither of which was specific to Covid-19. From one of the underlying studies on inward protection:
On outward protection, a measure of whether a contagious individual is likely to infect others.
I’ve seen it said that Czechia went all in on masks. High compliance, even if they were homemade.
They’ve done well, last I looked.
I agree. They’ve been asking for donations to keep them alive due to advertising being down from the pandemic. I think I’m going to send them some tomorrow. Previously I had just thought my subscription did my part.
Unfortunately, that page does not give the percentage who have none of the above.
It also says that 17% of American adults do not have broadband at home but use a smartphone. Given that some web sites are slow or more difficult to use on a smartphone (compared to a computer with a 22+" monitor and a broadband connection), that suggests that a decent percentage of American adults have somewhat more limited access to online services compared to those who have home broadband as well as smartphones.
Agree. This could be as interesting a case as the restaurant in China where they looked at transmission based on airflow.
They did, and the masks were very very homemade, at least at first. Like cutting up a T-shirt homemade. The masking started early, and for some viral reason it took off like lightning. Politicians started wearing masks. People made mask-trees: trees full of masks, so anyone could just take one. Very quickly almost everyone was wearing a mask.
Police in a nearby town are looking for a man who had a violent freak out in ACME. An employee told him he needed a mask to be in the store, he yells and starts throwing things, throwing a bottle of hot sauce at an employee before he left.
Seriously? It’s a mask.
ACME should have free paper towel masks for every customer who does not have a mask. Should not be cost prohibitive.
There is a whole video compilation of people freaking out and yelling and coughing on others and spitting and threatening when asked to wear a mask.
We won’t have a second, widespread shutdown. People are done with that.
Should infection rates and deaths start to go up dramatically again, we will isolate the elderly to the extent that we can, which is what should have been done in the first place. But I very much doubt it will come to that.
This is not the issue. Retailers have available masks and offer other shopping options. The mask refusal has become a “statement.” There are multiple instances of violence and acting out regarding the masks every day- especially in Michigan.
We get our (craft) beer from our local supermarket. (They are family run and even filled growlers in the past, though I don’t think they are doing that now.) Wine we’ve been ordering directly from wineries we’ve visited in the past. Mostly from the Finger Lakes in NY or various smaller wineries in California.
I’ve been ordering things from Amazon that I would normally get from CVS, I’m not sure what is worse in terms of who benefits.
On the one hand I’m very comfortable with staying at home a lot longer and feeling that even in NY there’s a lot of work that could be done safely that still isn’t allowed. (In my business I’d allow decks and retaining walls for example, or one person jobs indoors.) Gardeners were allowed to do maintenance, but not any new work.
You can if you have a credit card and an address. You can if you can pay the price asked at Kohl’s and Macy’s. If not, you have to shop at the thrift store or go into a store to pay cash and take the item with you.
My daughter is one ‘risking her life’ for those who want their Starbuck’s coffee. Only the drive through is open so the people are all in cars, but the workers are not 6’ apart and can’t be. She loves it and doesn’t feel it is a sacrifice and is thrilled to have the job (she got it in April, so knew the risks). She’s one not entitled to unemployment because she was working a temp job (sub teaching) in March when the shutdown happened. She made the $1200 last as along as she could.
People have to decide on their willingness to accept the risk of going out. I have friends who want to stay home and never go out. That’s their choice and I’m glad they can order things online or have friends fetch things for them, but I’m not as happy when they condemn others for leaving the bubble, or complain that they can’t hike alone because ALL THOSE PEOPLE keep leaving their houses. Um, Pot? Meet Kettle. I make my own assessment of what is safe for me. I don’t go out that much anyway, but I live with two people who are high risk so I’ve tried to limit trips and exposures. They also can’t control what goes on outside. Airlines can sell all the seats on their planes and if you don’t like it, don’t go. If government offices open again, I say good. People need to get divorced or married or get a new driver’s license. Courts need to open. People on parole need to see their parole officers.
Our churches are very limited. Mine allows 10 people. Ten. It holds about 3000 people, they could easily seat 200 with social distancing. Nope, 10. My mother’s church is huge, and they allow 10 families, so a family could be 1 person or 6. She’s not bothering to try to sign up.
Another reason to open churches is for funerals. My friend’s father died in March and the funeral was postponed. Still on hold and when it is held, it’s likely to be for family only.
Maybe Michigan government could try a different message. They (and NYS and NJ) could acknowledge that their states are diverse and let counties/local governments make their own decisions based on local situation.
Message about masks could be better received if it was originated locally.
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[Santa Clara County, SF Bay Area] At first we weren’t allowed to have our gardeners come, and a lot of people complained. A few weeks ago they let us have gardeners and also allowed construction to resume.
Just in the last couple of days they’ve allowed general retail to open up, but you have to pick up the items outside the store.
Masks are required inside stores. Outside, masks are suggested but not required. The last couple of times I went to a store, everyone was wearing masks and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. I’m sure some people throw tantrums but I haven’t observed or heard about it happening locally.
I’d like to see local municipalities opening up parts of city streets to restaurants (and of course the rest of the street to pedestrians and bikes), and closing them to cars. Seems like a better use of public land right now, and quieter than motorized traffic to boot. We shouldn’t be having much if any more rain now until fall, so this could be a way for lots of restaurants to open safely.
Hair salons and nail salons aren’t open yet. If I were in charge those would be on my later-to-open list too.