Coronavirus May 2020 - Observations, information, discussion

In the fall of 2018 I was in Hong Kong - their subways are pristine. No homeless people taking naps on the benches. They are also like airport trains in that they have a set of doors on the platform and a set of doors on the cars. I also have been riding the NYC subways for the last month. The cars are older and more tired looking and there are the occasional annoying characters, but for the most part I’ve felt they were pretty clean. One thing that HK did was have some kind of coating on things like escalator handholds. It’s easier to clean subways that aren’t as old. They are designed better.

Even if the NYC subways were cleaned every hour there would be hundreds of hands holding the poles. So yes, even before Covid I washed my hands when I got where I was going.

Michigan issues abound- A Family Dollar store security guard was shot and killed allegedly over a mask issue.

There are more cases in urban counties (and rural counties too) than there were in February and March. The lockdown in urban counties doesn’t prevent people in urban counties from going to rural counties. I’m not forbidden from driving up to Lassen and eating in a diner, if one is open. I’m not forbidden from staying in a motel, if one is open, or going to a church, if one is open.

In the Bible Belt, limiting a church service to ten or fewer (LA, MS, AL) is effectively shutting it down.

Hi @MomofJandL . I’ve often wanted to see the crane migrations along the Platte River. I was born in Nebraska and I wrote a research paper about whooping cranes in high school. Some of my favorite childhood memories are visiting places in “the middle of nowhere”. But I think a more respectful tone would go over better when responding to that sort of comment.

@MomofWildChild, terrible news

I can’t believe all the discord in Michigan. I could say more but I won’t. But I hope certain people in the state are happy that this is where we are.

Even if someone was OK with this, (that’s 100,000 deaths a month!!!) if the number got to 3000 by June 1, it wouldn’t stop at 3000.

This does not seem to be a good trajectory to me.

there are more DIAGNOSED cases now than there were in February and March because of testing. I don’t believe there are more cases now than February or March - there are less, you can see the new cases dropping in the entire month of April. CV was spreading unknown in February and March, but not anymore.

Doesn’t this show there’s something very wrong with our society currently? The lines that divides the society on issues of guns and lockdowns seem to coincide.

Thank you for making my point. I could not of said it better myself.

People travel everywhere.

There is no place where no one from “outside” don’t go.

Being rural does not convey immunity from a pandemic.

After days and days of trying, my husband got an appointment for antibody testing on Wednesday. Supposedly takes a couple of days to get the results. $90.

Is that with Quest?

Have you gotten any info on the reliability of these tests and the particular one your husband is taking? I’d love to get tested, but don’t want a false result - so I’d love to know where we are with that. A few weeks ago, I was reading there were a lot of false results.

By that logic, as long as the virus was present anywhere in the world, the whole world should be shutdown.

I’m interested in being tested for antibodies myself and may do that once there’s a sense of reliable results, but what I really want to know more than anything is if I’m spreading the virus or not.

Washington DC subways are much cleaner than other cities. No (and I mean NO) eating, drinking, open containers of anything. No gum.

At least she’s not rushing out to get a tattoo! But I know how you feel. I worry about the same thing with my mother in MS. Just hope she’s understanding that she needs to be more careful because she’s in a high risk group and is a caregiver for her husband, who is in a super high risk group. (Doesn’t help that my sister, who lives near her, is one who shared the video of the 2 doctors from Bakersfield.)

Helpful hint (seriously, not meaning anything even remotely awful)… Reread the entire post again. They were being sarcastic and giving theoretical reasons those who want to open the places up would use, not their own beliefs.

I read it the first time and paused too, because we’ve been to both Iowa (neat little state - we loved it) and NE (still need to go see the Cranes). Then I reread it and went, “ah!”

We’re in a more rural area wondering exactly what will happen with folks coming from more affected areas if places around here open up. It’s a common discussion among neighbors. Unlike some of the areas others were talking about, we’re not far from cities and are a typical tourist destination so we have more than Denny’s locally.

We have our own cases here - esp from the poultry processing plant - but we’re not as affected as the cities. People do come here to go shopping (or so I’ve heard).

If you want to play with the referenced model yourself, here it is:

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2020/5/1/coronavirus-reopening-simulator

Italy ‘opened’ today. This means people can go to parks, funerals (15 people or fewer), go to their jobs. Italy didn’t fling open the doors entirely, but they have been closed down for 2 full months. No going outside except very close to their own homes, to the grocery once a week, etc. They were shut down, and it took 2 months.

There are many conflicting interests. In Wisconsin, for example, there are less-populated areas (call them rural, if you want) where some residents are concerned about “outsiders” arriving and possibly spreading the virus, while other residents are concerned about the loss of jobs, many of which depend on tourism. Probably some residents are worried about both.