Coronavirus May 2020 - Observations, information, discussion

Here are salon guidelines for here in Tennessee: Not exactly business as usual

"Appointment only, no walk-ins.

Under state guidelines we are working on limited capacity and this may affect appointment availability.

You will receive a text the night before your appointment asking:

Have you been in contact with anyone with COVID-19?
Have you had a fever in the last 48hrs?
Are you experiencing, cough, shortness of breath, sore throat?

Upon arrival:

You will be asked to text us +1 (615) xxx-xxxx and we will let you know via text when you can enter the building.
Please remain in your vehicle until then.
You will get your temperature taken at the door and will be asked to wash your hands.
There will be no waiting areas for now.

We ask that you leave all personal items in your vehicle.

Per social distancing guidelines, come alone to your appointment. Only guests with an appointment can enter the salon. (i.e. children, friends, other family members will NOT be allowed to accompany you inside)

Beverage service will be discontinued. We encourage you to bring your own sealed beverage.

Also state guidelines require that we book more time for color services. Please expect to see an additional charge for product and time added to your ticket. You will be quoted prior to starting your service.

We will not accept cash payments at this time. We will be offering concierge check out at the chair.

ALL blow dry services will be paused for now. We ask that you come in with clean, dry hair for your haircut appointment."

Our Hawaii University system just announced it will be having in person instruction and dorms open in the fall at all 10 campuses, including the CCs and university campuses. It will be interesting to see how they do this in a “corona-aware” fashion.

Our largest hospital took down its COVID-19 triage tent that was in the parking lot where the ambulances dock because it is no longer needed. We had one new c19 case today, bringing out total to 621. We have had 17 deaths total.

That’s great that HI is going to open all campuses in the Fall. I expect many mainland universities will do the same. The whole dorm room situation will be interesting!

Back when we were in college, there was as many folks as you could fit around cafe tables, in common areas, pretty much all over campus. Having to switch things up to COVID-aware will definitely be interesting. Wonder if large lecture halls will be every other seat? Shields (like checkouts)? The plexiglass folks are probably very busy!

https://www.hawaii.edu/news/2020/05/04/uh-preparing-safe-fall-return/ is the announcement. But it does not say anything about what students subject to arrival quarantine (because they live some place other than the island that their school is on) should do.

@TatinG:
“By that logic, as long as the virus was present anywhere in the world, the whole world should be shutdown.”

Er, no. Polities and cultures that can test, trace, and quarantine visitors from outside effectively can safely open up. Look at China look at SKorea (a democracy).

But the US can not because we’re in a stage of disunion/discord that makes us more similar politically to many other (Latin) American democracies than anything else.

Give yourself a little break. Everybody’s adjusting. At least you didn’t poke anybody with a stick.

I didn’t personally see this but my friend did. She was in the grocery store a few days ago and there was an older gentleman keeping people away by swinging “a stick.” (I asked - like a walking stick? - she said she didn’t even register what the heck he was swinging she was so shocked.) Anyway, this guy was swinging the stick around him and telling people to “stay away from [him.]” My friend is a caring nurturer type and was appalled. I’m guessing he’s just scared and when this is all over or when he calms down, he’ll be embarrassed.

So again, you’re OK. You didn’t poke any strangers with a stick. All good.

I just went to an urgent care, CityMD, to get antibody testing without an appointment. When I called they said they had 30 min wait time. When I got there there was no line with few people in the waiting room. I was called on after 15 min. They took my blood (2 tries), and a doctor explained to me about the whole procedure. Of course I had to ask a lot of questions. They told me the test they are doing is over 95% accurate. They have tested over 25,000 people since Tuesday with 25+% being positive. The doctor told me the rapid respond test with a prick on a finger is only 50% accurate. My test result will take 3-5 days. The test was free to me. The doctor said with 25% positive result doesn’t give us herd immunity (will need about 70%). He said this winter will be bad.

For better or worse, the China model would have been politically unthinkable in the US. If we were like China, then we would have brought out the national guard to barricade every exit from NYC and prevent anyone from leaving the city, starting in March.

I wish there was something like an “ostrich coefficient” that helped you to evaluate case numbers and risk. So, if Massachusetts has more than 10x the cases per capita than Maine does, you need to apply the coefficient because Massachusetts is testing more than 3x the number of people per capita than Maine is. That leaves you with a truer number of cases but I don’t know what that is.

The top 5 in testing has changed dramatically in the last few days. It now is Rhode Island, New York, Massachusetts, North Dakota, Utah. Rhode Island has tested a little more than 7% of its population!

The bottom 5 are Arizona, Ohio, Kansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina, with Arizona being the worst. 1.2 to 1.3% for all of them.

They are working out details of quarantining students as appropriate. It is an evolving situation. They just wanted to give students, parents and faculty a heads up of fall plans.

Looking to re-open retail in HI presently, as soon as Gov signs order and businesses can follow appropriate practices.

This will be 7th emergency proclamation. They’re working out wrinkles on quarantining for arriving visitors.

@roethlisburger: S Korea is a democracy that didn’t restrict the movement of non-carriers drastically and brought their infections down to zero.

I think a lot of countries that had been affected by SARS reacted fast and were very successful in containing things and slowing the spread and keeping numbers low. Most started wearing masks asap and got testing up and running asap along with contact tracing, etc. S Korea is one of them. They did really well, esp given the super spreader that kicked things off there in the very start of their spread. I think most of those countries had a lot of buy in to take quick action.

I hope we don’t have more pandemics after this but I think and hope that if there ever are any others, the US will be a lot more ready for them. I hope we will be ready for whatever comes this fall and winter.

Ok. South Korea wins. Or Sweden. Or anywhere.

All other 183 countries dealing with this as best they can, in different ways, clearly don’t understand how simple it all is.

We only have to implement the SK I-phone tracking model or Chinese physical lockdowns. Done. Maybe the soft close Swedish approach.

I have no idea.

If 182 countries had it just right and this nation were the outlier, I would agree that we are not on the right track.

It is so massively complicated, I think we fail to comprehend it all. It is an intersection of law, culture, values, history, geography, physical distances, urbanization versus rural, technology, human rights, economics and political structures.

I was in HD early today. Disappointing how few people wore masks. And some were clearly oblivious to how close they were to others, even in a big store like HD where they could have easily moved away! Second wave, here we come :frowning:

Did you quote the stick story because you are thinking of bringing your Distancing Stick with you to HD?

I guess that could be the next hot Mother’s Day gift. Dudley Dursley had his smelting stick, now you can give your mom her very own Distancing Stick! Comes in regular and electrified… for the mother who has everything.

Not surprised, but I did get this e-mail the other day from my doctor’s office (AZ):

Our Director of the Dept of Health in HI said in the news conference just said that testing positive to the antibody does NOT mean such folks are immune from getting C19.

He says we have sufficient contract tracers.

@oldfort, I probably once knew this but don’t now: What state are you in?

H returned to work today, after WFH for 6 weeks. His assistant quit, so he had no choice. Wore a mask and said no one else in the entire factory was wearing one, on the line or in management.

My state began staged re-opening today, but in my county you could barely tell it was closed the last month The “essential business” list was a mile long; the only people I know not working here were restaurant and small business retail.

We had 6 cases for five weeks and another 26 in the last ten days from the adjoining county Tyson plant, most of those in one county corner.

I don’t know what to think. What is the likely outcome if the county has been out-and-about for this long with so little community spread? I don’t want to have false hope.