Their restaurants outside Southern California are called Sweet Tomato; we used to go to the ones near us in Illinois and also went to Souplantation here a couple of times.
We will miss Sweet Tomatoes . It was a staple in our family when the kids were young. The number of times I had to get their chicken soup for takeout for my “princess” was numerous. I would assume that it was not just Covid, but somehow they were squeaking by beforehand.
I have not read this study in detail and I don’t know whether they had pools in mind, but this is hopeful: “Although different studies showed different viral inactivation rates for CoV in water, based on the type of virus and the type of water, generally, there is evidence that CoV is generally considered unstable in the environment and is more susceptible to oxidants, such as chlorine than non-enveloped viruses.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7187830/
Nate Silver of 538 polling and stats geek believes the national reporting on new cases and subsequent public discourse is a being skewed as result of intentional misrepresentation of statistical basics. The exponential increase in testing. Add they didn’t indicate the date of original symptoms .
I tend to agree.
The Navajo Nation is getting slammed. The under-resourced Indian Health Services are shipping ICU patients to Albuquerque.
My friend with Covid toes said her doctors (she has spoken to three including a derm) seem to agree that she had Covid earlier and it is now only later manifesting in her toes. The antibody test, she was told, is not very reliable. Wow, I hope it will be soon.
In the long run, there have to be mental health consequences to continuing the lockdowns. 36 million Americans live alone, and might not have spoken to anyone in person since the lockdowns started. If we decided to continue the lockdowns for months or potentially years, waiting for a vaccine or cure, loneliness and depression is bound to become a serious problem.
Moderately intelligent people are capable of adjusting their habits, based on input.
When China cordons off an area containing around 50MM of their citizens and there are disturbing videos and reports of people being confined to their homes to live or die, the average person that’s paying any attention might pause and consider risk to their own body if the same showed up here.
The Imperial College projection of 400,000 or so dead in the UK, and over 2 Million in the US, would also figure into whether or not that average person would continue dining out. (In case I forget, I’m going to go ahead and note that there are no end of people willing to go through a drive-through and take home what the cook might have sneezed or coughed on… go figure, is all I can say.)
Media and some officials have pushed the “even if you’re not over 60, obese, and dealing with long-term health issues, you’re at deadly risk, too.”.
Well, yeah, you are… a negligible one.
The notion that: “it’s the virus, not the shutdowns, that’s responsible…”, isn’t a compelling one. If that’s going to be the fig leaf to excuse policy that is looking more and more like a stupendously stupid mistake, might as well just go fully naked.
There also are mental health consequences to living through a pandemic when people can leave their homes (as most people still can).
I found out today that my favorite thrift store has been open for a week after being deemed ‘essential.’ Last Friday our state SAH order expired, but most of the cities and counties in the large metro area have their own orders. This store is just outside the city limits.
It is usually packed, both with people and things to buy. Today, within an hour of closing, there is noticeably less stuff on the racks and shelves, and they are of course limiting the number of shoppers. Everything is a final sale.
A nursing home in PA closed their facility to visitors on March 13. On April 7, a staff member worked a full shift, then went home and started with Covid-19 symptoms. The staff member infected two other staff members and a resident. As of this date, 57 people have been infected, 17 have died.
They closed the doors. They attempted to keep the elderly safe. But a staff member, who became infected in the community, brought it into the facility.
We need to reduce overall infection levels outside the nursing home so that workers are less likely to be infected, and we need better PPE and better infection control so that if a worker gets infected, they don’t transmit the disease to residents. Probably this nursing home wasn’t using good PPE, because they probably couldn’t get it then.
I wish testing were increasing exponentially, I bet you $10 that Nate Silver never said testing was increasing exponentially. Because it isn’t, and that’s not the kind of error he would make.
From March 20 to March 27, daily testing increased by a factor of 4. From April 20 to April 27, testing increased by a factor of roughly 1.5. From April 30 to May 7, testing increased by roughly 1.25. If there were exponential growth, those numbers would all be the same we’d have a lot more daily testing than in fact we have.
OMG. This has got to be a bad joke!!!
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/may/06/state-will-pay-assisted-living-coronavirus/
So after extensive lockdowns - where family members have not visited for over 8 weeks, after some counties have extended the lockdown to June 15th (at minimum) which means these vulnerable people will have been isolated from their families for three months - our Gov. want to entice them to take COVID patients.
Anyone who has kept up with the data knows how this spreads thru these communities.
My brain goes down the path of really conspiratorial thinking. So, let’s introduce COVID to these communities, then we can guarantee a COVID spike hence proving that the lockdown needs to continue.
Speechless…
This^^^^ Its happening everywhere. Not enough PPE, not enough testing!
And now Roy Horn, of Siegfried & Roy, has succumbed to the virus https://variety.com/2020/scene/news/roy-horn-dead-dies-siegfried-roy-coronavirus-1234602573/
This doesn’t sound good to me. But I have to ask, where SHOULD these patients be released to? Covid rehab centers? We should set up covid rehab centers I guess.
Also, do we know how covid patients are infectious? Not how long they keep shedding viral fragments, but how long they’re infectious?
The referenced paper at https://www.cdss.ca.gov/Portals/9/CCLD/PINs/2020/ASC/PIN_20-17-ASC.pdf says that “Preferred facilities are those that are currently empty, have a completely separate structure from any other residents, or contain solely COVID-19 positive residents.”
@katliamom
RE: Albuquerque
Two rural counties–McKinley and San Juan, both in the NW corner of the state–account for almost all of the cases in hospitalized in ABQ. San Juan has over 1000 cases and has been increasing that number by about 30 per day. San Juan Medical Center has 8 ICU beds. (The population of San Juan County is only 123,000.) McKinley has 1500 case and increasing at the rate of 25 per day. (Population of McKinley County is 71,000.)
Sandoval County (another rural county) is running a close #3 for highest number of coronavirus cases and hospitalizations.
Like most rural areas, the people living in San Juan, McKinley and Sandoval counties are older and sicker than more urban areas like Abq. or Santa Fe.
Also San Juan & McKinley are home to the Navajo Nation–where Covid-19 is running rampant. The Indian Health Service has been completely overwhelmed. IHS hospitals are seriously understaffed and don’t have ICU wards.
San Juan Medical Center has fewer than 8 ICU beds and only 4 respirators. (They had zero until 2 weeks ago when the state airlifted those 4 respirators from the state’e. stockpile.) Rehoboth McKinley Christian does not even have an ICU. Seriously ill patients are being airlifted to ABQ at a rate of about 10-12 per day. The entire state of NM has only 344 ICU beds and UNM Hospital is the state’s only Level 1 medical center (Level 1 handles the sickest of patients.)
I’d heard that every single ICU bed in all 3 major hospitals in ABQ were 100% filled three or four days ago.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-are-not-enough-covid-19-tests-there-are-also-too-many-covid-19-tests/ is an article on fivethirtyeight.com about COVID-19 tests, but it was written by Maggie Koerth, not Nate Silver.
Here are other articles about COVID-19 on that site: https://fivethirtyeight.com/science/