This is disturbing: https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/ga-nurses-file-lawsuit-against-athens-hospital/85-69de7fcf-0959-45fa-bf25-61385230fe84
A positive of staying home has been that we have finally eaten almost all of the items in our deep freezer 
An analyst in D1’s department just got diagnosed with Covid. He lives/works in FL and ever since FL opened up he has been throwing parties and going to bars. He got a cold in May from just being out and about. Last week he was in close contact with someone (at a bar) with the virus and then he spent extensive time with his parents before he found out he was infected. Meanwhile he had not want to go in the office since it opened up for fear of catching the virus. He didn’t want to tell D1 because he was concerned of her reaction, so he told the VP who worked for D1. D1 said how could the company expect them to go back to work when they don’t know what people do outside of work.
I recently asked one of my highly paid consultant (we are one of their biggest customers) if he would come into our office if we should open up. He said, “Oldfort, because it is you who is asking, I would actually think about it for 30 seconds, but the answer would be no.”
I’ve only been grocery shopping a couple of times since this all started - husband has been doing it. But he’s getting surgery next week and it will all be on me so I did a trial run of errands today. I went to CVS, Walgreens, and a local grocery. I wore a mask and gloves. Husband has been stocking up on frozen food LOL.
Yesterday the governor imposed mandatory mask wearing essentially when within 6 feet of non household. It looked like 100% compliance within the stores, spaces marked on the floor for checkout, and easy to keep away from others at midday on a Friday. Outside was less compliant; some people had masks dangling but did not put them on when coming close.
Husband is getting tested tomorrow morning and has to quarantine at home until surgery Tuesday. Apparently I will be allowed to be with him in the prep room, and to return for recovery. It’s a stand alone orthopedic surgery practice and there’s an outside door leading from the recovery area. So there will be few people to encounter.
Is it hard to grow zucchini? Does it require a large yard? Could it be done in a pot or a raised bed? I love zucchini but do not have anything like a green thumb. I also know that there is some lead in our soil.
H went into his office today because no one was in the Capitol as Juneteenth is now a holiday for state workers. He found a petrified orange and apple in a desk drawer.
One his way home he saw people outside a few of the cafe’s he passed, but they weren’t crowded at all. He did see people on the streets, mostly young professionals, and reported everyone had masks on.
I hope your husband’s surgery goes well, @Marilyn.
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Zucchini is extremely easy to grow. I am not familiar with lead in soil but you can certainly grow them in a raised bed or perhaps a very large pot. Each of my.plants forms a mound (bush basically) about 3 feet or so in diameter and height. You will get plenty of zucchini from one plant. I just start them from seed and in about 2 months enjoy the rewards. Hopefully this is helpful for you.
I don’t see how the two are related. There were various things I couldn’t get these past months, some of which are becoming available now. I anticipate the virus will increase in the fall and be pretty bad this coming winter, and that we will have shortages in various things. I’m immune deficient and so haven’t been to a store since February. When I order things to be delivered for for no contact curb side pickup, I can include some extra things now so that I don’t have to worry about feeling I need to go into a store this coming fall, which my doctor is recommending I not do given my having immune deficiency.
I’m not sure I’m reading what you are saying the way you are meaning it.
I do think that fleeting contact is unlikely to cause illness but I read reports from China where very short contact is believed to have caused illness in people who had their movements tracked by phone apps. So, I don’t think it is impossible and my doctors have told me that it is best if I get my things delivered and avoid stores. (shrug)
I definitely don’t want to set off panic buying in others or leave someone else in a jam by buying a ton of things. I try to spread things out by buying a little extra each time. I like the stores that put limits on how many of each product people can buy. More should do that for things that go out of stock, in my opinion. I have always been the type to leave some things on the shelf for others. I remember especially when my son was a toddler, I would never wipe out the toddler snack he liked because I imagined other parents finding an empty shelf. So much more so for things like toilet paper!!! Wouldn’t want to cause someone else to not have any.
Maybe you could contact a store manager and explain you have a larger family and ask if they will make an exception in your case?? That sounds challenging.
Zucchini is kind of on the “throw the seed in the ground and stand back” end.
https://covid19-projections.com/about/#infection-fatality-rate-ifr
Youyang Gu’s updated IFR for Covid.
'Due to the reasons above, we use the following initial IFR in our projections:
0.75% IFR: Japan, South Korea, Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, all EU countries except Spain
1% IFR: US and all other countries’
'Since June 1, 2020, we use a variable IFR that decreases over time to reflect improving treatments and the lower proportion of care home deaths. Hence, we decrease the initial IFR linearly over the span of 3 months until it is 50% of the original IFR. So for example, by August 2020, we estimate the IFR to be ~0.5% in the US and ~0.4% in most of Western Europe.
Recent global, Europe, and US studies point to a 0.5-1% IFR to be a reasonable estimate. One of the largest antibody studies thus far estimated a 1.2% IFR for Spain.
Note that our IFR is based on infectious individuals only. There is growing evidence that asymptomatic individuals are unlikely to be infectious. As a result, we do not account for those individuals in our model, since they do not contribute to the spread of the virus. Note that asymptomatic individuals are different than pre-symptomatic individuals.’
Regarding when it was known there was asymptomatic spread–I read things like this article back in January.
Doctors warn China coronavirus carriers may show no symptoms of illness
‘CAT scan revealed signs of pneumonia on 10-year-old Shenzhen boy’s lungs even though he had no outward signs of infection
Strict quarantine and contact-tracing regimes ‘crucial’ to containing outbreak’
Published: 12:45pm, 25 Jan, 2020
I am a big believer in wearing masks, but I’ve got a newfound respect for anyone wearing a mask for more than an hour or two. I’ve got a mask that my not yet DIL gave us that I believe is a European N-92 mask. It feels very effective, but I end up just dripping in sweat. It is always a relief to get back in the car to take it off. Even the surgical masks which I wear if I am meeting clients outside who also wear masks end up making me sweat though not to the same extent. Today one of my clients started off wearing a mask then took it off and just put a piece of paper in front of her face. She was across the room from me at that point, but yeah, that’s why I am wearing serious masks and would rather just be doing outside projects this summer.
Got a text from the city health department that there are 2 new Covid-19 clusters in the city now, one linked to an illegally large graduation party and the other linked to a large gathering at a bar outside the city. They have mainly affected young people.
City bars without a food license could only open starting last Saturday, and at 25% capacity. That same rule applied to bars outside the city a week or two earlier.
Separately there is a 100+ person outbreak linked to several Tigerland bars in Baton Rouge.
The tone of this text alert was very angry. Methinks bars might be closing again unless there are drastic improvements in common sense.
Wouldn’t the problem with bars be that any sense (common or not) gets lost after a few drinks?
At least until the squash bugs take them down. They end up getting ours every year, but at least we usually get oodles of squash first (both zucchini and summer squash). We got our first zucchini of the year yesterday. Except for potatoes, some butter, lemon juice, and salt, our entire meal tonight was from our farm (beets, beet greens, potatoes with snow peas, chives, and various other herbs for seasoning). It was all cooked by DIL and super delicious. Soon we’ll have our own potatoes too.
Potatoes are also easy to grow.
My farming lad uses newer techniques that are far less work than what I grew up with and 100% organic/natural. Google Ruth Stout method.
@fretfulmother that is really nice of you. I’m making due with cloth napkins which I love. My H is a baby and likes his paper napkins. My D’s bf found him some at a coffee shop that has a grocery area. I also have a random assortment of old birthday napkins. I also have plenty of paper towels which he could use. He likes his Costco napkins which I’ve not been able to get since early March.