Coronavirus thread for June

Ah. My concern is with high school. I’m definitely not cut out to teach the younger set.

“Following a one-month lockdown, Denmark allowed children between two to 12 years back in day cares and schools on April 15. Based on five weeks’ worth of data, health authorities are now for the first time saying the move did not make the virus proliferate.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-denmark-reopening/opening-schools-in-denmark-did-not-worsen-outbreak-data-shows-idUSKBN2341N7?fbclid=IwAR37r4fSkW13LOb3QZJ0Qp6gwGShnV7C1BwDYV5CMS8Fza6Ys_U9OkF77PY

https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/blood-donation-process/what-happens-to-donated-blood.html says that:

So only frozen plasma and cryo (a component of plasma rich in clotting factors) could be old enough to be from the time when there was unknown COVID-19 in the community.

The evidence I’ve seen is that elementary school kids don’t seem to be spreaders, high school aged kids are definitely spreaders, and middle school kids I don’t know, and college-aged kids definitely spreaders.

I believe you are correct about contagion. I guess now I’m just looking at numbers of deaths and in the end we haven’t caused a big fuss about them. Seems pretty similar to covid deaths. Maybe I’m just bringing too much into the mix.

Let’s just hope the virus mutates to become far less severe before fall. If that were to happen, problem solved for everyone and this just mainly goes into the history books to be talked about for eons.

Do you have a cite for this study?

Our schools never closed for flu when my kids were in the system. For the same reason that they were so reluctant to close them for Covid - too many kids get meals at school. Three kids have died in NY and 213 have come down with a syndrome that appears to be a delayed reaction to Covid. https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/childhood-inflammatory-disease-related-covid-19

As I reported earlier Montefiore (hospital system) says the first illness they know of was in late February which is earlier than the first official case. Back in April about 20% of NYC had antibodies.

I suppose better late than never.

‘Palm Beach County likely to require masks in public places. Here’s an early look at the plan.‘

“County commissioners had resisted the move for weeks as other areas put orders in place. But cases of COVID-19 have exploded in recent weeks, and five of seven commissioners told the South Florida Sun Sentinel they will approve an order Tuesday.
The date when masks would be required has not been determined.
Palm Beach County Mayor Dave Kerner said late Monday afternoon that he was still working on details of the ordinance but it was full steam ahead.
The order will include all the cities in the county, not just the unincorporated parts, he said. Any violation would be a misdemeanor, which could result in a fine or arrest or both, the same as in Broward and Miami-Dade counties.”

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-ne-palm-beach-masks-coronavirus-20200622-fassfutxk5ezrlvczdwbc2fibq-story.html

Thx for posting. I’ll read through it.

Done.

I don’t know how much stock I can put into this since the rate of infection has been dropping steadily in both Finland and Denmark in the whole population.

We are in a much different place than those countries with our botched reopenings.

The CDC link had significant numbers in all age groups for the same time period that were flu, pneumonia, or Covid. In hindsight they probably would have tested to see, but at the time they didn’t or perhaps couldn’t. For school aged kids it’s 115 for ages 5-14 and 353 for 15-24. If those were put into correct columns (whichever column) it would change our data, but we just don’t know which column is correct.

School rarely closes for flu here because it’s rare to have 10-20% have it at the same time. It’s never closed at my school during my years there, but has made the local news for some other districts in the past.

Schools usually close for the flu, not when kids get it, but when too many teachers are sick with the flu.

My S21’s HS has never closed for the flu, even though it has circulated pretty badly in our community every year. We’re the family that always gets flu shots (mandatory at my work for a health system). I will say that I live in a community that believes in “essential oils” and homemade elderberry syrup – not everyone, but enough of a minority that makes me worry about my kid being in school with families where we don’t have the same viewpoints about science. Unhappy to report that the COVID-19 numbers in Ohio are rising.

Many many states are in the “steadily dropping rate of infection” category - including all states in the northeast. Don’t just cancel studies that don’t fit your narrative.

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12 years in my school district we never have this happened. Substitute teachers are always ready to sub in.

I used to work in a school. One December Friday we had about 1/3 of the kids call in sick. On Monday and Tuesday it was about 50% (by then that included me as an employee, also out sick). They not only didn’t cancel school, they double downed and held their Christmas pageant with a full church of parents, siblings, and grandparents on Wednesday. Yikes.

Fang: that sounds really, really good, but… masks, along with social distancing and putting a choke hold on the economy don’t stop transmission, they slow it.

No bell curve for this pandemic, instead a plateau, and without a ‘vaccine or bang-up treatment’, the same number of people will pass. And they’ll continue passing for years, on a hyperbolic decline.

OTOH, it’s possible the virus will weaken and the response will have saved lives. I’ll admit this, because it’s simply true. Then, though, we’ll be left to decide whether or not the measures that were taken to deal with it were a net win overall.

Again: this will be argued for years, one side saying ‘if it saves one life’, the other saying ‘look at the overall cost’.

My son’s soccer club returns to PRACTICE today. Each player has to fill out the form to get a green light to go to practice each day. Must wear mask from car to field. If one person in the cluster (players and coach) is down with covid, the entire team will be quarantined for 2 weeks. This will be a good experiment, I will report back if we have any incident during the next 6 weeks of practice. In a few weeks we will have the protocol for “return to PLAY”. I talked to another coach in CA and apparently they have similar procedure and also return to practice today.

If you’ve a particular country’s response in mind that backs up that statement, please share it.

“We conclude that wearing a face mask in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent inter-human transmission.”

https://today.tamu.edu/2020/06/12/texas-am-study-face-masks-critical-in-preventing-spread-of-covid-19/