Coronavirus thread for June

We have friends in retirement homes where different levels of care are available as they age. There are many residents in their 80s and some in their 90s still leaving the retirement home for lots of activities, including international travel.

They started shelter in place early, closed common dining areas, screened health of employees coming in daily. wore masks. One resident was exposed when a physical therapist came to her apartment, and later tested positive. The resident, and residents on that hall quarantined. None of them became ill.

In summary, very active elderly taking strict precautions because they are anxious to live longer and resume interesting and fulfilling lives.

Excellent, thank you! We love Sushi Go Party, and although we play it quite often here with just our own household, we’d love to get extended family involved, too. Love these suggestions – appreciate it!

How long has it taken you to get used to Tabletop Simulator? I’d like to play Wingspan (tremendous game!) on TTS, but I’ve had a tough time getting used to the interface.

I think my family is on Guiness Book pace for 1000 piece jigsaw puzzles. Almost averaging one every other day.

TTS has let me play games with a friend in London and another in Brazil. Strange that the virus prompted us to start playing games together even though nothing really changed between us!

I got used to the interface pretty quick, but I keep having problems rotating cards to far or picking up the entire deck rather than just one card. I think part of the problem might be network lag. But that’s just a guess.

I think it’s nice, and not uncommon, that extended families who are normally far-flung are able to actually participate in more of what goes on, as we move more events to online participation. My sister had a baby and over 100 people were “invited” to a naming/meet-the-baby which would not have happened IRL :slight_smile:

My point was between my grandmother’s time and now society has changed. That change didn’t happen overnight, but was progressive.

In her era they still farmed with horses. Now tractors sometimes have internet and GPS. In between one could see a lot of change at any farm museum. In her era, pretty much every family lost children or young adults through childbirth, disease, or various accidents. Today it’s fortunately rare. In between attitudes and expectations changed as we learned more medically, safety-wise, and got vaccines, etc.

1968-70 was closer to her time (she had her kids in the 30s through 50s) than current time (2020) is. The knowledge and attitudes at that time hadn’t shifted to where we are now. They progressed over time.

I find it very telling that you won’t acknowledge the estimated very high death rate for CV-19 that would have resulted if we took no action because it doesn’t fit your false narrative that this is not much worse than the seasonal flu (as you have previously said) or other pandemics like 1968.

It’s a shame…

@rickle1 Our S finished a 6,000 piece puzzle a few weeks ago. He worked on it during his free time (remote learning). We have not been able to find another 6k puzzle, but did get him two 4,000 piece and one 3,000 piece. He has not started any new ones though. Puzzle fatigue??

Just so everyone knows, I’m hoping that people who disagree with each other will disengage. As I like to say, I respect your right to be wrong on the internet. :wink:

This was the only thread where I was having this issue. It is working fine now.

I’m hopeful that we won’t see a big upswing in covid as a result of the protests against police misconduct and police murders. After all, as far as I know we’ve seen no cases from the Lake of the Ozarks event. One person who was infected went to that event, but as far as I know that person seems not to have infected anyone else.

I am doing a 500 piece puzzle every couple of days. Maybe we should set up an exchange!

We’ve always kept ours. We now have a puzzle library and we break out old puzzles on special occasions.

The study I looked at sampled “long term care facilities” nationally. I will look for it, it was conducted by UCSF and was a longitudinal study that was conducted I believe over 14 years.

In any event, with median age of death from COVID near to 80 (higher in some states) we are on average talking of people near the end of their lives. In terms of economic burden, COVID is less worrying than common flu, which affects much younger cohorts.

Not sure what you are talking about. If by death rate, you mean IFR, that will be invariant with regard to protective measures taken, except insofar as uncontrolled virus would lead to hospital overwhelm (and thus higher observed IFR where the overhwhelm took place). I could imagine that this was an issue in NYC and perhaps a few other places (and led to higher observed IFR locally in the NYC area I think), but it would likely not have been a problem on a national basis.

COVID is bad, but at estimated 0.26% IFR (central CDC estimate), we are hardly talking about the Black Death here. Less bad than the common flu for younger cohorts, much worse for the oldest and least healthy cohorts.

The boutique where I do a lot of my shopping has sent out to their customers a list of the protocols they are adopting for reopening.

I like to know what protocols clothing stores people here shop at are to get a sense if places are doing enough/not enough.

We’re ready for you ???Gearing up to open our doors and see your smiling faces again, we cannot wait! Here is what you can expect from us to ensure your health and safety:

  1. No more than 10 people will be allowed in the store at one time. If we are at capacity, we will form a line (6 feet apart) outside.
  2. Self-sanitizing door handle strips will be on both entrance and exit doors. Sanitizing stations will be available at both entrance and exit doors and back office areas. There will also be free standing stations throughout store and sanitizer at each register.
  3. All employees and customers will be required to wear a mask. If one is unavailable, we will have masks to provide.
  4. Sanitizer, Clorox wipes, gloves will be available in abundance to maintain standards.
  5. We will be enforcing social distancing keeping customers and staff 6 feet apart. Floor markers will be used at cash registers to allow space for customers when checking out.
  6. We will have one point of entry and exit. Each door will be labeled with the appropriate signage to manage flow of people.
  7. Staff will be required to take daily temperature checks and fill out a screening questionnaire each shift to monitor the staff’s health.
  8. After each dressing room use, the dressing room will be entirely sanitized with a UV light wand and all touch points wiped down.
  9. Every item of clothing will be thoroughly steamed after each try on in a designated steam area.
  10. In Cosmetics, face shields will be provided for staff.
  11. All touch points in remainder of store will be sanitized throughout the day.
  12. We will ask customer to insert their own credit card for payment to avoid passing where possible.
  13. After each transaction, keyboard, keypad, pens or anything else touched will be sanitized.
  14. Personal, private shopping appointments will be available before and after hours for customers.
  15. Curbside pick-up will continue to be available during store hours.
  16. We will ask for a contact name, address and phone number with each transaction to adhere with contact tracing protocol.
  17. All items will be FINAL SALE until further notice as a temporary COVID-19 policy.

My son’s school put out a video news each week during stay home/distance learning. I’m finishing the end of the last ever episode and crying. It is bringing home to me how much the kids missed out experiencing. They had all the teachers give messages, had flashbacks to earlier in the year during normal times. I know lots of these kids. It is just hitting me as so very sad. I so wish things were normal now. Meanwhile, DS doesn’t miss school at all. lol But I’m sitting here crying while I watch video of a flashback of students interacting in person, sometimes in big groups and passing a microphone back and forth. I usually feel OK but this just got to me.

I have to buy thank you gifts for his teachers. I’m not sure what – something virtual like Amazon e-gift cards. They are such a great group who truly love the students.

We are on average talking of people who lose ten years of life, if you’re talking about averages. And yes, that does take into account co-morbidities.

I don’ t know whether to laugh or cry about this, but my local county health dept. has issued a new order for June that includes a specific section of rules allowing “protest gatherings”, including requirements for 6-foot social distancing, mask-wearing, overall upper limits on number of attendees (no more than 100)-- along with a commentary that activities such as chanting, shouting, or singing negates the risk-reduction from social distancing.

I suppose this provides some value in terms of guidance to law enforcement as to when to leave people alone.