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Please read my previous post, and you will note that I didn’t say it was acceptable. I said it was different. The difference is that Rush picked on somebody weaker than him, which makes him a coward and a bully. I wouldn’t exactly say that Bill Maher can bully a leading politician. He still may be a jerk with a foul mouth, but his sin is a different one.</p>
<p>Thanks guys… this will be my last post for the night I think, have to study/baseball practice… so here we go.</p>
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<p>For me at least, I see them as different because eating coffee or drinking meat isn’t something I can find to be forbidden by God in the Bible. Those are things Ellen White
(a prophet) saw in visions that supposedly came from God. I can point to my own life, I do eat meat, yet am an Adventist. However, I only eat clean meats, the meats that I find in the Bible that are permitted. (chicken, beef, fish with scales, land animals that chew the cud, and have split hooves) I don’t eat any other meats than those. The reason I don’t drink coffee is because I just hate its taste, and from medical studies I’ve read, plus from doctors I know, caffeine isn’t a good thing to get “addicted” to, so I don’t want to take any chances.</p>
<p>However, from what I’ve seen, contraception isn’t usually looked upon well in the Bible. God even killed a man because he “spilled his seed on the floor”. He killed him!!! Also, since I believe life starts at the moment egg & sperm meet, I’m not convinced that all birth control pills stop the egg from ever coming into contact with a sperm cell. This could mean that the conceived cell is then “dumped” and done away with. Until I get complete confirmation that they work, I can’t quite agree with it yet.</p>
<p>Anyway, I need to study/practice baseball, I’ll see you fine folks soon. Have fun, and Peace to All.</p>
<p>I am NOT defending Rush. In trying to understand how someone can be such a jerk I have tried to listen to his comments multiple times.</p>
<p>My take on what he said is not that Ms. Fluke was a prostitute for taking bc, but rather that she would be considered a prostitute if her bc was PAID for by taxpayers…in his sick mind, the analogy being that she was getting paid to have sex. I think it was a distasteful and deplorable comment in an attempt to make a point against taxpayer funded health care.</p>
<p>Play and study hard, FutureWeatherman – but not in that order! (I’m a mom, I can’t help it. 
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<p>Hunt,
Your analysis makes sense if we are talking about who can be bullied, but we are not. We are talking about whether it is ever okay to call a woman a slut, a “c” or a dumb twat in public. I am disappointed that there are men on CC who are not bothered by it. Especially because I know you both have daughters.</p>
<p>FutureWeatherman: I really wish you would address my statement that debunks yours that birth control is only for those who are sexually active. Your arguments against birth control don’t have any ground with me who needs the medication for unrelated to sex reasons.</p>
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<p>There are things that bother me A LOT more. Like what Rush had to say. Reducing it to a bunch of words misses HIS point entirely.</p>
<p>Sorry, Kender, I did miss that. </p>
<p>I did forget about those kind of “diseases” or ailments, that birth control is used for. I am sorry about that. In those kind of cases, it’s perfectly fine. However, the majority of birth control isn’t used for that purpose, which is something that insurers would have to take into account when deciding to cover BCP.</p>
<p>I’m really getting off CC now, if anyone has something they need me to clarify, Pm me please. I’ll be back tomorrow.</p>
<p>I hope you aren’t eating meat with cheese and aren’t wearing to garments of different cloth, i would think a baseball uniform is made from different materials and to god, that’s bad. There are dozens of biblical rules that I am sure you and your family are breaking but that’s okay. </p>
<p>Lets see, Do you shave! Eat ham? Eat seafood? </p>
<p>Ps god didn’t write the bible, men did. That is there a fact. Men who told stories. Stories that either god told them, which is in itself iffy. Why were some stories chosen? Why are some contradictory? The book of revalation was written many years after Christ by a really cranky dude, and it was just one of many books of revalation. Why that one was chosen, who the heck knows. The bible was edited by men. Books were tossed, things were added. God did not write the bible.</p>
<p>Mini,
Rush made his point with one word.</p>
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<p>Both bills passed.</p>
<p>[Georgia</a> Female Legislators Stage Walk Out To Protest Anti-Abortion And Contraception Bills](<a href=“http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/08/440348/georgia-women-stage-walk-out-to-protest-anti-abortion-and-contraception-bills/?mobile=nc]Georgia”>http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/08/440348/georgia-women-stage-walk-out-to-protest-anti-abortion-and-contraception-bills/?mobile=nc)</p>
<p>These new laws are just the latest example of a growing trend:</p>
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<p>[2012:</a> Another record year for abortion restrictions?](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/2012-another-record-year-for-abortion-restrictions/2011/12/29/gIQAw5tKxR_blog.html]2012:”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/2012-another-record-year-for-abortion-restrictions/2011/12/29/gIQAw5tKxR_blog.html)</p>
<p>Seriously? With all of the problems we face, it astounds me that the Number 1 priority seems to be to drag women back to the 18th century.</p>
<p>FutureWeatherman: Thank you. I do sincerely appreciate you finally acknowledging that not all on birth control are sexually active and that it can be taken for reasons beyond preventing babies.</p>
<p>It would be helpful to your argument if you could provide factual evidence that “the majority of birth control isn’t used for [unrelated to sex reasons].” Those I knew on birth control were taking it for a variety of reasons long before sex was a consideration in their lives (and when it became a consideration, they used condoms regularly). There were those who took it for skin care or similar reasons as me. I knew someone who took it because their period was so irregular that it was dangerous to her health if she wished to ever have children in the future. There are so many reasons beyond sex and baby-prevention that I find it hard to believe the majority take it only for anti-baby reasons without accurate statistics.</p>
<p>To me, birth control is just like any other medication that has a wide variety of purposes. A woman’s health should not be placed at risk because of the beliefs of someone else. Thankfully, my insurance does now cover my medication. Previously, I paid a large copay… much larger than the copay I paid for other medication. Kind of sad it was cheaper for me to get vicodin and percocet than the one thing that actually worked.</p>
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<p>Actually, Emporer Constantine chose the four gospels he chose, out of the hundreds available to him, because they best supported his political aims at the time and were the least harsh in their implications of Rome.</p>
<p>As for whether or not it matters if men or women are refered to in derogatory slang terms, it is unequivocally true that language matters. If language didn’t matter, we would all run around calling the president the N-word, or his wife the N-word, and we long ago recognized that calling people of color by such offensive, derogatory names did, in fact, impact how we thought about them and how we treated them and was, in fact, a form of racism. It is also true, over the years, that the s-word and the c-word, not to mention various other lovely words, have invariably been used to both silence women and to strip them of their legitimacy and power. </p>
<p>To say that the “right” media men and women feel to call women who disagree with them by sexually demeaning terms is not a part of WHY half the population feels they have an actual “right” to a vote and opinion on what women do with their reproductive and sex lives is flat out naive. Frankly, men of all political beliefs STILL think this is open for discussion and vote, which is hillarious, really, given that men in politics really seem to have more than they can manage to control with their own sex lives and really ought to figure that out before they go around trying to tell women what they should be doing with their bodies. And, a big part of why this continues to remain a part of public discourse is the same reason it remains acceptable to label women.</p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
<p>I wonder how many men’s health issues are we asked to qualify through biblical verse? Are we really sure that the old testament approves prostate exams?</p>
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<p>I suggest you read the Bible, King James Version. God didn’t say don’t wear clothes made of mixed fabrics, he said don’t wear clothes that are mixes of linen and wool.According to scientific research, having those two mixed and worn in hot climates (As the Israelites lived in) would cause malignant fevers and exhausts strength. So, in other words, God was trying to protect his people from becoming ill! Also, nowadays, almost no clothes are made that are mixes of linen and wool. </p>
<p>What the Bible calls “linen” means linen Linen and cotton, which are plant-based fibers. What the Bible calls “wool” is wool and silk, which are animal-based fibers. So what God was saying was to not mix animal and plant-based fibers!!!</p>
<p>Also, if you read what I wrote before, I said the only “seafood” I eat is fish with fins and scales (as per the Bible), and clean meats (like chicken,beef, or other land animals that chew the cud and have split hooves) A pig does have split hooves, but it does not chew the cud, so it is unclean. Hence, I do not eat ham.</p>
<p>I don’t shave, as I don’t have a beard/mustache.(unless you mean cutting my hair). From my reading, cutting of hair is allowed. Only priests were not allowed to cut their hair, and since priests aren’t used/necessary (as per my religion), and I’m not a priest, I can cut my hair.</p>
<p>I’m at baseball now, so I’m gone again. Peace to All!</p>
<p>Oh God, LasMa, I really didn’t even want to KNOW that today. What is WRONG with this picture? </p>
<p>Almost ALL families are two paycheck families, these days, except those families headed by single mothers, which are one paycheck families, and we honestly want to restrict a woman’s access to choice?</p>
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<p>Just a note, I’d appreciate if you could capitalize all instances where you wrote God and Bible, I’d appreciate it. </p>
<p>Yes, the Bible was edited by men, which is why an NIV Bible is different from a King James Bible. However, the books of the Bible were put into writing by men, but from “intervention” from God. He is the true author of the Bible.</p>
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<p>I take blood pressure medication. For high blood pressure? Nope. It just so happens that this medication ALSO stops the hair loss I was having. </p>
<p>Under the restrictions that are being advocated, if my employer had a “moral conviction,” a “religious objection,” or a “personal belief” against controlling blood pressure – I’d be bald!</p>
<p>(Please note, Kender, that I am in no way comparing the seriousness of my medical problem with yours. I offer it as more evidence that off-label prescriptions are commonplace, and benefit patients in many ways.)</p>
<p>“Actually, Emporer Constantine chose the four gospels he chose, out of the hundreds available to him, because they best supported his political aims at the time and were the least harsh in their implications of Rome.”</p>
<p>Well, Ireneus first, a hundred years earlier. But not without struggle after Constantine. More Christians killed other Christians in these struggles in the two decades after Constantine, than ALL so-called Christian martyrs in all countries combined in the prior three centuries.</p>
<p>“To me, birth control is just like any other medication that has a wide variety of purposes.”</p>
<p>Nope. Birth control pills are defined as “preventive health service”. That designation was not given to them lightly. The purpose for which they are included in health insurance, without copay, is to prevent births when doing so is desired.</p>
<p>Please note that everything I write is divinely inspired, so be careful. ;)</p>
<p>This is what we are dealing with here in Texas. Those of you mocking women for not being willing to “just go to the local Planned Parenthood” should pay special attention.</p>
<p>From yesterday’s NYT;</p>
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<p>This is the mindset. I don’t believe for one minute anymore that this is about religon. It’s about trying to control women’s bodies.</p>