Course 7

<p>Ok, this is different from the last thread “premed schedulings”</p>

<p>This thread is for the Course 7 in general.</p>

<p>So, if we finish these classes:
7.012, 7.02, 7.03, 7.05, 7.06
5.111/2, 5.12, 5.13, 5.60
8.01, 8.02
18.02 (testing out of 18.01)</p>

<p>how far away are we from finishing the major? i heard Course 7 is not that major-heavy. so, i thought of doing a double major or some minors.</p>

<p>And what does it mean by</p>

<p>“No subject can be counted both as part of the 17-subject GIRs and as part of the 180 units required beyond the GIRs. Every subject in the student’s departmental program will count toward one or the other, but not both.”
from [MIT</a> Course Catalog: Course 7](<a href=“Welcome! < MIT”>Welcome! < MIT)</p>

<p>Thanks y’all!</p>

<p>MIT CC-ers rawks!!</p>

<p>You’ll need 3 restricted electives and a 30-unit lab (or a 12-unit lab, if you go 7A, which you might want to for a double). But I’d suggest similar things as I did for premeds - take 5.111 and 5.12 freshman year, take 7.012 sophomore year :)</p>

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<p>There’s a bunch of General Institute Requirements (GIRs) that you have to take. And then, to graduate, you have to earn at least 180 units that are NOT from GIRs. Some classes are always GIRs (e.g. 7.01whatever), but some can be used as a GIR or not (e.g. 7.02, which can fulfill the lab GIR, and 7.03 or 5.12, which can be used to fulfill the REST GIR). What that sentence is saying is, you can’t double-count the class as satisfying a GIR and satisfying the 180 non-GIR units.</p>

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You should check the websites of medical schools you might apply to and check out their requirements. </p>

<p>Some require math through 18.03 (Harvard’s HST program, which is chock-full of MIT alums, does), and some require that you take two semesters of math in college. I don’t know whether getting credit for 18.01 on your transcript (as you would with AP or ASE credit) fulfills this requirement.</p>

<p>Anyway, the restricted electives are the most fun part about course 7, and I wasn’t able to stick to just three. I think I took six or seven. :)</p>

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<p>… while double-majoring? Did you sleep, Mollie?</p>

<p>Please don’t shoot me for relentlessly asking questions.</p>

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<pre><code> Since 7.012 is a prerequisite for all 7.02.7.03,7.05 , which Oasis said are needed for MCAT, won’t takin 7.012 only in fall “mess up” the schedulings since I am planning to take the MCAT sophomore summer. Or is there another way that I can do those classes with taking 7.012 sophomore year?
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<pre><code> Then I will just take 18.03 sometime between sophomore spring and junior fall.
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<pre><code> My understanding : So, after taking the above classes, and taking 3 restricted electives and a 30-unit lab, I am good to go for the Course 7 major. Then, I will need to take classes to get 180 units (excluding the ones from GIR’s), which can come from minoring other courses and seminars?
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<p>Nope. 7.05 requires 5.12, which requires 5.111. It also requires 7.01x, but you don’t need to take anything for 7.01x. The chemistry chain is longer. Also, Lander is an amazing lecturer, and was the main force behind the Human Genome Project - seriously, I think it’s worth learning from him. If you want to take the MCAT the summer after sophomore year, here’s a sample schedule:</p>

<p>Frosh fall:
18.02
8.01
5.111
HASS</p>

<p>Frosh spring:
8.02
5.12
5.60
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore fall:
7.012
18.03
[elective]
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore spring:
7.05
7.02
7.03
HASS</p>

<p>Alternatively…</p>

<p>Frosh fall:
7.012
8.01
5.111
HASS</p>

<p>Frosh spring:
8.02
5.12
18.02
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore fall:
7.03
18.03
5.60
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore spring:
7.05
7.02
[something]
HASS</p>

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<p>Not quite. You need 17 GIRs. This means you need 8 HASSes, 6 science core GIRs (7.01x, 5.11x or 3.091, 8.01, 8.02, 18.01, 18.02), 2 REST, and 1 lab. Everything that’s NOT one of those counts towards your 180-beyond-GIRs. In biology, your REST subjects may be 5.60 and 5.12, your lab may be 7.02. Those classes will not count towards your GIRs*, but any other classes will (in your major, outside your major, whatever).</p>

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<li>7.02 is 18 units, and GIRs are 12 units. Therefore, you’ll actually get 6 units from 7.02 to count towards “beyond your GIRs”.</li>
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<p>Hope that’s clear. Ask me to re-explain if necessary and I’ll try to make it less fuzzy :)</p>

<p>^You can also take 7.012 and 7.03 concurrently – one of my friends did this. The material is not really very contingent.</p>

<p>In general, at MIT, prereqs are just suggestions.</p>

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There are two answers to this question.
Answer the first: <a href=“http://web.mit.edu/mollieb/Public/Sleep%20Statistics.pdf[/url]”>http://web.mit.edu/mollieb/Public/Sleep%20Statistics.pdf&lt;/a&gt; :smiley:
Answer the second: I had very little AP credit coming into MIT, so I had to take virtually all of the 270 units outside the GIRs required at the time for a dual degree at MIT. And I chose to take virtually all of my extra units in the biology department. </p>

<p>(There was one semester where I was taking 75 units and captaining the cheerleading squad and working 15 hours a week at my UROP – that was the closest I’ve ever come to insanity, although my recent habit of being in lab 12 hours a day is giving it a run for its money.)</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses!</p>

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<p>This schedule looks great. but i have a question regarding 7.02. Is there any way I can do it earlier like Frosh Spring so that I can have a better UROP/lab chance during the summer? Something like taking it instead of 18.02. </p>

<p>So it’ll be like :</p>

<p>Frosh fall:
7.012
8.01
5.111
HASS</p>

<p>Frosh spring:
8.02
5.12
7.02
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore fall:
7.03
18.02
5.60
HASS</p>

<p>Sophomore spring:
7.05
18.03
[something]
HASS </p>

<p>How do you see this? When is the best time I should be worrying at most about this? is this too early? or should i do it @ CPW? or during orientation?</p>

<p>I am assuming taking 18.02 in the fall will help me more since the majority of the incoming Class of 2015 will be taking it and more people=better curve?</p>

<p>Course 7 doesn’t need 18.02, so that could work. I’m wary of pushing off GIRs in general, though, because it can make changing majors harder (and very few people I know of major in what they intended to as a prefrosh ^.^).</p>

<p>what other pros and cons are there in taking 18.02 sophomore fall other than potential difficulty in changing majors?</p>

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<p>There’s a class over IAP that covers biology lab techniques. It’s not a replacement for 7.02, but it should be more than enough for getting UROPs over the summer. Also, I have a lot of friends with bio UROPs even now, as second semester freshman, and none of them have taken this IAP class or 7.02, and most are only now taking bio, so it’s not as if getting a UROP is an extremely difficult thing to do.</p>

<p>^ Yes! I should’ve thought of that! I took that lab (6 units), and it was amazingly helpful. It teaches all sorts of molecular biology techniques, and definitely worth taking if you have the inclination ^.^</p>

<p>Yeah, I got my UROP a year and a half before taking 7.02.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t necessarily advise against taking 7.02 spring of freshman year, but 7.02 is a pretty difficult class, and there are not very many freshmen in it. </p>

<p>You can take 5.60 any time – it’s not a prerequisite for anything, so there’s no need to finish it early.</p>

<p>Is that class this one?
[IAP</a> 2010 Subjects: Biology](<a href=“http://student.mit.edu/iap/fc7.html]IAP”>IAP 2016 Subjects: Biology)
Since it is with the lottery system, would it be hard to get into though?</p>

<p>My case is that I have no prior lab experience whatsoever. I just cameto US about 18 months ago and it was in my AP Chem class that I saw my first test tube. so, I’m afraid it would be hard for me find a UROP since other students will be much more stellar.</p>

<p>Yes, that’s the one. I haven’t heard of anyone being turned away. I imagine they try very hard to make sure there’s room for all the freshmen, but likely reject upperclassmen (who should be taking 7.02 anyway ^.^).</p>

<p>that’s awesome!! now, another one. lol</p>

<p>i kind of mentioned this before but anyways,</p>

<p>is 18.02 taken by the majority during fall or spring? how about 18.03? and more people = better curve right?</p>

<p>Don’t worry about 18.02 and 18.03. You won’t need the curve for those classes since there’s always so many people taking it. : )</p>

<p>If you take 18.02 in the fall, I’ve heard a lot of good things about 18.023 (the applications version) ^.^</p>