Course selection and AP exams

<p>We just found out none of my son's AP exam scores will be sent out until early July, which will include the AP exams he took in sophomore and junior year. However he will be going to the orientation session this week and I believe he needs to select courses. Here are the questions:</p>

<p>1) How will this impact the courses he needs to select?
2) After the AP scores are sent, can he adjust his courses? </p>

<p>Thanks,
midwestDad</p>

<p>When he goes to orientation have him talk with his academic adviser that the university has not yet received (but will) his AP exam scores. </p>

<p>What will probably end up happening is that he will tell his adviser what scores he has on what AP's (a 5 on BC calculus, etc...), and then he will sign up for courses based on the presumption that the university will receive those scores before classes start in the fall. So if he got a 5 on BC calculus, he would sign up for the appropriate course considering all class exemptions that the AP allowed. </p>

<p>This was how it worked for me at least when I went to orientation last year.</p>

<p>I'll answer #2 first: Yes, he can change his courses after the AP exam results come in. (In fact, changes can be made after classes start.) Since he has lots of flexibility the first semester (because he needs "everything"), it might be most convenient to just avoid the ones that might be waived by AP credit. Here they are:</p>

<p>For students pursuing the regular General Education requirements:</p>

<p>-A score of 4 or 5 on a foreign language AP waives the third semester FL requirement.
-A score of 4 or 5 on AP Art (History) or History (European) waives the GE Cat 1 Western Cultures and Traditions.
-A score of 4 or 5 on AP Biology, Chemistry, Physics (B), Physics (C- Mechanics) or Physics (C- Electricity/Magnetism) waives the GE Cat 3 Scientific Inquiry.</p>

<p>USC</a> ARR : Articulation : AP Exam Credit at USC</p>

<p>For Thematic Option students:</p>

<p>-A score of 4 or 5 on a foreign language AP waives the third semester FL requirement.
-A score of 4 or 5 on AP Art History or European History will satisfy the Theme Course in the Humanities and Social Science.
-A of 4 or 5 on AP Biology, Chemistry, or Physics will satisfy the Theme Course in Natural Science.</p>

<p><a href="http://college.usc.edu/assets/sites/1/docs/honors/Thematic_Option_Student_Handbook_.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://college.usc.edu/assets/sites/1/docs/honors/Thematic_Option_Student_Handbook_.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Scores that waive pre-requisites:
USC</a> ARR : Articulation : AP Exam Credit at USC

[quote]
Waivers: Some departments may use **AP scores of 4 or 5 **to waive prerequisites or degree requirements as shown below. To get a prerequisite waiver (to register for a higher level class) with an AP score, contact the USC department that teaches the course. To get a degree requirement waived with an AP score, contact your major advisor. </p>

<p>AP Biology: Either BISC 120 or BISC 220
AP Chemistry: CHEM 105aL
AP Economics (Micro): ECON 203
AP Economics (Macro): **ECON 205
**AP Mathematics (AB)
: <em>NOT the AB subscore</em> MATH 118 or 125
AP Mathematics (BC) If your score is 4, MATH 118 or 125. If your score is 5, MATH 118, or 125 and MATH 126
AP Psychology: PSYC 100</p>

<p>Missing AP scores? Students must have their scores sent directly to USC from the College Board, not from their high school or in any other format. Contact the College Board for ordering instructions: 1-888-CALL-4AP. If spring official scores have been sent in June but do not appear on the student's TCR by August, send an email to <a href="mailto:uscartic@usc.edu">uscartic@usc.edu</a>.

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<p>ugh I'm having the same problems... but none of my scores count to waive, just as credit. I really don't like that they don't take the AB subscore. :|</p>

<p>What about AP English Lang and AP English Lit? Do the Engineering majors get a waiver?</p>

<p>My son has taken many AP's, but it looks like he wont get much benefit since he did not take AP Psych or AP USH which could have waived him out of some core req.</p>

<p>His AP courses have been 2 each in Math, Physics, Econ and English. He is going in for CS/CE.</p>

<p>pixeljig, you may have misread the info above. Neither AP Psych or AP USH waive any core requirements. AP Psych waives a pre-requisite (PSYC 100) for PSYC majors, but no GE requirement. Only AP European Hist or Art Hist will waive GE Cat 1, USH does not waive any requirement - it receives elective credit only.</p>

<p>The AP English Lang and Lit will not waive any requirements, but they will be granted 4 units of elective credit for each score of 4 or 5 - as do all other AP Courses passed with a score of 4 or 5 up to a moximim of 32 units total.</p>

<p>I'll re-post from above the APs that waive general education requirements:</p>

<p>For students pursuing the regular General Education requirements:</p>

<p>-A score of 4 or 5 on a foreign language AP *waives the *third semester FL requirement.-A score of 4 or 5 on **AP Art (History) or AP History (European) waives the GE Cat 1 Western Cultures and Traditions.
-A score of 4 or 5 on AP Biology, AP Chemistry, AP Physics (B), AP Physics (C- Mechanics) or AP Physics (C- Electricity/Magnetism) waives the GE Cat 3 Scientific Inquiry.
You say he has AP Physics - if he received a score of 4 or 5 that should waive the GE Cat 3 Scientific Inquiry.</p>

<p>Also shown in the above post, his AP Math course may waive some math pre-requisites for his major. Check the AP Articulation web page for complete info: USC</a> ARR : Articulation : AP Exam Credit at USC</p>

<p>yes its annoying that so little counts for actual classes, rather its just credits. but you'll see that even the credits help you in the long run. class registration (other than at orientation) is done by the number of credits you have, so as a freshman registering for the spring semester its helpful to have credits coming in, and therefore have priority registration among freshman. it sounds trivial but when theres only 2 spots left in the class you want to take you'll be thankful</p>

<p>Thanks ^ :)</p>

<p>I get totally confused with all this AP stuff. I guess in due course we will figure it out. Yup, he will get credit for the Physics B and C. He got a 5 last year in B, will see how well he does this year.</p>

<p>Do these so called AP credits reduce the overall graduate credit requirements? So lets say he needs 132 Credits in 4 years to complete his undergrad degree, will he be able to graduate once he completes 100 credits? (just a scenario of him having 32 worth of AP credits lets assume).</p>

<p>As swoopes2 says, the biggest benefit of AP credit is registration priority. After the first semester, registration appointments are set based on the number of units you have. </p>

<p>Yes, the 32 units go toward the total you need to graduate (which for most majors is 128). He has only one waiving a requirement, however, so it probably will not mean he can graduate early - he will still have to get all of his GE requirements and Major requirements. Always look for GEs that double-count for major requirements - that will free up more space.</p>

<p>It is a good idea to get a USC catalog and set up a spread sheet with 8 semesters. Plug in GE and major classes until you have all of them and see how much (if any) space is left to make room for a minor or for graduating early.</p>

<p>ap us history counts for GE cat 4 for engineers (only)</p>

<p>alamemom, thank you for that tip! It helped me realize that what I was planning on doing was simply unfeasible. Now I know that. Thank you! :) (I came up with a better plan that I can do)</p>