Covid-19 Updates

@rbc2018 Re: the sentence “Any remaining balances must be used during the Fall 2020 semester.”, this was worded even more poorly yesterday when I called HokiePassport for clarification. I just got off the phone with them again… expect new language to appear. What they intended to say was that any remaining carried-over base meal plan $ would have to be used and would not carry over to spring. (Just as it would have had to be used in any spring semester since base meal plan does not carry over from academic year to academic year). Flex additions and dining dollars will carry over each semester as usual, per verbal from HokieP staff.

@HokieCrazy FLEX DOLLARS are the usable cash amount within an official dining plan (where 40+% of your plan money pays for infrastructure). Once you use up that baseline amount within a semester, you can deposit “flex additions” which are used just like basic dining plan and get same 50% or 67% discount depending on dining hall. Flex additions rollover from semester to semester until a student leaves the university. DINING DOLLARS are $ deposited into an off campus student’s HokieP account (in lieu of a dining plan since it’s assumed off campus kids won’t eat as often on campus). Dining dollars get a 5% discount off retail cost for meals and you do not pay sales tax.

@ShenVal18 They are really making this crap hard to decipher aren’t they. Okay, I’m still unclear whether the dining halls will be accepting dining dollars in the fall, spring, etc. So many statements I saw in a Q&A suggested that off campus students are out of luck except for the ones that rolled over flex money. The implication has been that credit/debit at food trucks or off campus restaurants will be the solution for most. I mean, I guess we’ll all know soon enough, I just can’t understand why it is so hard to communicate this stuff clearly. (Also, if they are still accept dining dollars as usual that doesn’t reduce numbers/density, so it’s hard to believe that is what they are doing; combine that with the statement that nobody can add anything to dining dollars, hmmm)

@HokieCrazy Yes, VT has always been committed to housing freshmen (which is why it’s always been required), which I agree with. It’s one of the reasons I was so surprised by the chaos created Monday when they sent personalized emails to many freshmen saying ‘sorry, we don’t have housing for you after all’. It’s extremely odd the way it rolled out and then having a bunch of them added right back in, I really don’t know what to make of it. I mean, I’m glad for those back on the list, but it really sucks for anyone who got bumped. Maybe they will convert lounges again to squeeze some more in, or reduce the ‘quarantine’ dorm rooms that they are setting aside (they aren’t saying which dorm, but it will have to be something with private bathrooms). Interesting times for sure.

@rbc2018 Yeah, the folks drafting their messaging aren’t hitting it out of the park. The person I spoke with today read the answer for the first time and immediately said “that seems awfully confusing”. He screen-shot it and was sending up the chain for revision.

For off campus kids this fall, it does appear that unless you had rollover then the food trucks, Subway, and the coffee place are going to be the only options. Not sure about other folks, but my off-campus kid didn’t eat on-campus much this past year, so it’s probably not too much of a hardship. Agree that keeping rollover funds “active” doesn’t change density at face, but maybe thought there is that off-campus kids might eat at non-peak times (and probably rarely eat dinner there). So net is lower numbers. Not allowing add’l funds to be added for off-campus kids also may have the effect of them spreading usage out which also reduces density on a daily basis.

Housing & Residence Life Q&A starting now…6pm…if you’re interested.

@HokieCrazy

Everything you would want to know on VT dining plans
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/news/cracking-the-virginia-tech-dining-plan-code/article_c621a214-c08c-11e5-bd7e-fb61d325440e.html

@colin6 I missed the Q&A, anything interesting? (it doesn’t pertain to us, just curious)

Nothing that hasn’t already been discussed on this thread. They have accommodated 2/3 of students on housing waitlist and are hoping to accommodate more. They encouraged students who haven’t re-signed their housing contract to do so before the June 16th deadline. They said 2/3 of students have already re-signed (my son is one of them). I was interested in learning more about the move-in process. We will get more information about that soon.

@colin6 In case you hadn’t seen this info yet:

https://housing.vt.edu/fall2020.html#movein

2 hour time limit, only 2 people allowed to assist, no siblings beyond 2 person limit, masks for all, assigned time slots, 1 family per elevator, requesting students go “light” on what they bring just in case.

Hey everyone, just chiming in with a current student’s perspective. Right now, it seems most of my friends, who are mainly upperclassmen, are overall still worried about which classes will be online or not and, obviously, how the dining plan situation will go. I know @trf215 posted the FAQs, which I’ve looked over, and right now, I’ll likely opt for the dining plan refund. I remember how long the lines were at Turner this past year, usually avoided it, even during the non-peak times that VT suggested we should go during. With new social distancing measures combined with a reduced dining staff, I can definitely see why this decision was made. I actually have a friend who stayed in Blacksburg for the rest of the semester and remembers waiting close to two hours to pick-up his food and it was barely the full order. Obviously this was back during the huge, unprecedented shift that took place to help stop the spread, but I’d personally rather not take my chances and just get the refund, rather than standing in a line that will likely end up wrapping around the building just to spend the remaining money in my meal plan, especially since the decision is due so soon.

In terms of classes, Tech has made it pretty clear that students will have to wait until mid-July to see what classes will be taught online, and most likely will, and that not all classes will have a remote option. Right now, classroom priority seems to be going towards lab classes that would be difficult to do online, research, and class sizes of less than 50 people. As a result, I think it’s pretty safe to say most freshmen will be taking a majority of their classes online next semester. Which just leaves the question of whether or not certain classes will be essentially self-paced, where a professor uploads pre-made PowerPoints and lectures and it’s up to the student, or if Zoom lectures will make a reappearance.

In terms of the usual extracurriculars, Tech is encouraging online meetings for clubs and activities, and, according to their Instagram Q&A, are still working on how the upcoming football season will look. Tech has said that delaying the season’s start is on the table if practices cannot begin in July due to virus concerns. The university has said multiple things about how it plans to utilize Lane Stadium, but in my opinion, it’s look like some pretty self-explanatory safety measures will be taken if they do decide on how to open Lane. I would also assume that Center Street will definitely be a thing of the past until we enter the re-opening phase that allows for that large of a gathering.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts from what I’ve seen so far. It will definitely be interesting to see how this semester plays out now with social distancing measures. I’m also worried for my international friends who are pretty concerned about the new semester layout, flights, etc and there has been talks from multiple people I know about wanted to take a semester off, which I definitely understand. I have seen two articles on the topic of Blacksburg’s economy and the campus’s new measures and there are some pretty concerned comments in the comments section as well. Apparently, close to half of Blacksburg’s economy is fueled by students, so it definitely makes sense why they are not doing another remote semester. I’ll link them here for anyone who hasn’t seen them: https://www.wsj.com/articles/graduations-campus-classes-canceled-by-coronavirus-shock-college-town-economy-11589707800
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/college-coronavirus-fall-campus-open/2020/06/10/f1537346-ab19-11ea-94d2-d7bc43b26bf9_story.html

Don’t hesitate to correct me if anything I was was incorrect.

@ak2018 The policy documents that have been posted so far are stressing synchonous course work if at all possible. It should provide more structure to incoming freshmen students.

Dining refund decision isn’t until 8/1, so you have some time there. If this will be your first year off campus, our experience was that my kid ate about 1/4 as much on campus when living off vs. when in a res hall.

Athletics has already communicated to prior football season ticket holders that they should be prepared for limits to the number of games they can attend as well as social distancing implementation for games they do go to. And they have also stated that the general public should expect that no individual games will be available for purchase. Pure guesswork on my part, but I think you’re going to see the single game student lottery eliminated for this year, offers for students who do have season tix to refund w/ some bonus attached to it for the 2021 season, etc. Center Street will definitely be a no-can-do.

Anyone who has a child who completed their updated housing contract - can you provide details on the 8-day quarantine prior to move in stipulation that’s part of the personal health agreement?

My honest opinion continues to be prepare for the worst and hope for the best. We are still over 2 months away so impossible to tell what things will look like in 2 months.

At current rate Virginia will be to Phase 3 restrictions in next few weeks - which pretty much gets things back to normal (with precautions) in day to day life … but doesn’t mean they will stay there.

Thanks @ak2018. My son, a rising junior, shares your views on most of this (he will be especially sad to lose Center Street). And I agree, not having students and football season in Blacksburg would be catastrophic to the town in terms of their operating revenue. Everyone is definitely motivated to make it work for kids returning to town, getting at least some time on campus, etc. It helps that Blacksburg is in a beautiful area with lots of recreation, so hopefully that will help keep some students occupied safely while the weather is nice. Fingers crossed.

Yes, I read that. I submitted a question regarding the 2 hour time slot. Based on the information yesterday, we will be choosing our own timeslot. By allowing students to choose from available slots, it should eliminate most scheduling conflicts. They mentioned the possibility of 8am-8pm move in window for 4-6 days.

@ShenVal18 The 8-day quarantine was addressed. Basically, some people were confused regarding isolation and quarantine. Prior to arriving, they just want to make sure students have not been exposed to high risk areas (traveling to hot spots, have a relative that tested positive, etc.). If students are following the normal guidelines, then that’s all they are requiring (wearing a mask, social distancing, etc.).

They did elaborate on what will happen if a student is asymptomatic, etc. They did not identify the dorm/location, but mentioned how the student will be quarantined in a room with a private bathroom. Their meals will be delivered. They will notify instructors similar to any other health/family issue where a student is absent from classes.

@colin6 I assume you mean symptomatic. Sounds like they are thinking through the details, which is good.

@rbc2018 No, I meant asymptomatic. They specifically mentioned asymptomatic students. Therefore, if a student has or will be in any contact with a person who has tested positive, they will be isolated. Similar to the process now, when a person is symptomatic and test positive, they will try to identify anyone the person may have been in contact with. Although a student may be asymptomatic, if they were potentially exposed, they will be isolated. A question regarding refunds if there is a second wave was presented and there is no plan in place for refunds. They are hoping the contingency with an isolated dorm prevents wild spread.

@rbc2018 The isolation protocol for asymptomatic students begins at the 47 minute mark.

https://youtu.be/UeQvzoFlYns

@colin6 makes sense, thanks.

Here’s the latest on the off campus housing and dining situation. Things have improved but hundreds of students are still left in a tough spot.

https://www.roanoke.com/news/education/from-housing-to-dining-virginia-tech-to-require-students-to-adult-in-a-very-different/article_e605c402-2e0e-5fab-95a2-abbcf19afadf.html?fbclid=IwAR0YgewcGxdu6TUCZlc517-1Bp1B2A88hm_niwkjkJaibhiKUB5xvRF7Pwk

@ShenVal18 Thanks for the response. I’m actually a rising junior, so I should be fine. I’m probably going to go for the refund.

@rbc2018 Agreed. It’s definitely going to be quite an interesting semester knowing how all aspects of college will have to accommodate for social distancing mandates.

Also, I don’t know if it’s been mentioned here, but I was looking over the RideBT website to see how they were planning on handling the bus situation, since only nine people can be on the bus at a time right now (they also said they are currently working on a solution for when more students arrive), which obviously won’t work that well in the fall, even with a vast majority of classes being online. Buses were already filled way over capacity last year during peak class times, so I definitely plan on investing in a parking permit, assuming there will be a fairly-reasonable markup as well as the website likely crashing as a result of everyone trying to purchase a pass at the same time. Anyone have any more info on how parking permit prices would be affected?

Edit: Here’s the link: https://ridebt.org/fall2020