<p>Hilary annoys me too- I am with you on that HL</p>
<p>I am a liberal- although I don’t think that I have ever been really excited about any presidential candidate, because the ones that I am more in rapport with, don’t have a chance in hell of being nominated, let alone elected.( and no I am not talking about Nader)</p>
<p>The ones that do have a chance of being nominated and go as far as to be elected, we may have even higher standards for, than those candidates of the “other party”.
I agree that both parties have made many mistakes, both domestically and internationally- but it is particularly galling, when it is someone that you voted and perhaps even campaigned for.
Perhaps that is minis beef?</p>
<p>But accents are a nonissue.</p>
<p>I have relatives ( I am in Seattle where we don’t “have” accents) who are from the midwest- specifically Missouri ( mis-urah)
I will pick up a bit of their talk, when they visit * here*, I don’t know if I am “trying it out”, if I am trying to fit in, or what, but I don’t consciously do it.
But IMO, it is just like trying to dress, to accomodate the culture that you are visiting, I wouldn’t wear thigh high skirt and a push up bra to tour the Vatican and I wouldn’t insist on a BLT in a kibbutz.</p>
<p>( Of course- when I visit more formal aquaintances, in conservative neighborhoods- I sometimes * do* wear my Doc Martens and a * fake* nose ring gotta challenge the dominant paradigm ya know)</p>
<p>mini - if Clinton and his administration have blood on their hands anywhere it is on their Bosnia policy and support of the one sided arms embargo there. Real NAZIs not the neo or Islamo kind were conducting real genocide while Bill diddled and the UN fiddled.</p>
<p>Bill personnally may be a scum bag but his policies and administration were a mixed bag of good and not so good with probably the edge going to the good. I say that from a pretty conservative perspective. I don’t think I would like his co-president nearly as much though.</p>
<p>smurfgirl - I have seen the Maher video as well as him talking about the conversation on Bill O’s show - and guess what, Maher never said anything about assassinating Cheney. I think you are misremembering the statement to make it conform with the interpretation proffered by Drudge et al. If you’ve studied social psychology, you know that’s a very common cognitive error.</p>
<p>Given your demonstrated error rate, I’m not going to go through all your examples AGAIN.</p>
<p>But I will suggest that rather than fretting about anti-military comments that people purportedly said, you might be concerned about POLICY decisions that have overstressed the military, not given our people adequate body armor, and have not taken care of our wounded heroes.</p>
<p>smurfgirl–If we look around, we can find outrageous, offensive remarks made by members of every political persuasion. Sometimes these have been taken out of context and, thus, made to look worse than they actually were. Others were just plain stupid and/or mean-spirited. I listen to radio talk-show folks spew nonsense everyday, and take it all for what it is: gibberish. But Ann Coulter is something else. She seems to strike a negative chord with both Democrats and Republicans alike, who see her as dangerously venomous.</p>
<p>Interesting article, from an interesting source. And very encouraging for the future. Just as interracial marriages were once widely frowned upon–and, in fact, illegal in many jurisdictions–gay marriage will eventually (hopefully) be accepted for what it is–a legal union between two people who love and care for one another. How is this bad? Why any of us would be rabidly opposed to this is a mystery to me. And don’t start quoting the Bible to me. We all know that the Bible can be construed and misconstrued to make whatever point we want to make.</p>
<p>Hindoo – In my view, your evocation of interracial marriages is a good comparison. It was just 40 years ago that the Supreme Court ruled that states could not prevent people of different races from getting married. And, speaking of construing the Bible, here’s what a Virginia judge was involved in the conviction of an interracial couple said:</p>
<p>“More evidence of generational differences - and likely changes to come - in attitudes about gay marriage -”</p>
<p>Oddly enough your take on the world tends to change as you get older. Some people admit it and some people just move to the suburbs. Change happens for sure from generation to generation but I wouldn’t want to predict it based on the current outlook of a 20 year old.</p>
<p>BTW if my attitude and the attitude of my cohorts at age 20 was used to predict drug policy in 2007 you ought to be very glad it was predictive of the future.</p>
<p>BTW if my attitude and the attitude of my cohorts at age 20 was used to predict drug policy in 2007 you ought to be very glad it was NOT predictive of the future.</p>
<p>Conyat–You KNOW that Newt is unable to adhere to a marital contract! He wants to be our next President, but doesn’t seem capable of establishing himself as a moral authority on anything.</p>
<p>Higherlead–I appreciate the fact that you care enough to debate issues on a site like CC. … You are absolutely right–one’s take on the world does, indeed, change as one gets older. In my case, I’ve become far more liberal.</p>
<p><em>cringes</em> It’s cognitive psychology. That aspect of psychology deals with memory.
Please don’t teach me cognition, since I am already a student taking a cognitive psychology source and am planning to do a specialization in cognitive science. </p>
<p>And no, I don’t listen or look at Drudge’s website. Also, I did not post the same quotes twice if you read my other posts.</p>
<p>Well, I’ll let you guys get back to discussing the genetic/environmental factors of being gay since I’m obviously being silenced.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, no one discredited the quotes I posted. (The Maher one is a different story. People have their own interpretations of it).</p>
<p>A prof told me that she liked how I always would say the exact opposite of what everyone else said in a discussion and she wondered if I had those beliefs or I was merely playing the devil’s advocate. I didn’t tell her which one it was. This I will leave up to you to decide.</p>
<p>Sorry, but the whole question of whether Ann Coulter believes the things she says or just says them to get attention, is just not that interesting to me, and I have to say the same about message board posters.</p>
<p>Are you saying that I’m on here just to get attention?</p>
<p>I don’t need to be on here to get attention. Actually, I shouldn’t be on here because I’ve got more important things to do with my time.</p>
<p>All I’m saying is that it’s nice to bring up the opposite p.o.v in a discussion because it gets people thinking (and possibly reconsidering) whether you agree with the p.o.v or not. </p>
<p>I don’t like one-sided discussions and I like talking about politics with informed adults, not teenagers who just watch the Colbert Report.</p>
gotta challenge the dominant paradigm ya know)</p>