<p>This is entirely incidental, but I don’t believe Maher ever said he wanted Cheney assassinated. It looks like a wild distortion meant to play off some kind of false equivalence.</p>
<p>Anyway, Ann Coulter may be crazy and bigoted, but she’s also a performer and she knows what sells. The real problem is whether and why an audience exists for that kind of behavior.</p>
<p>Uh yes he did say that on his show. Read the transcripts.</p>
<p>OK mini I’ll bite. In what sense is Coulter a liberal?</p>
<p>You can’t see it? Didn’t you see Borat at the rodeo? ;)</p>
<p>Borat was the biggest send up of cross cultural sensitivity I’ve ever seen and a profoundly conservative movie that went way over the heads of its audience but I don’t see the tie in to Coulter. Spell it out for me.</p>
<p>she is a mole sent into the conservative camp to make conservatives look bad, thats it right?</p>
<p>Well, I did look at the transcripts. Quote it if I’m wrong. If Bill Maher had said something like “I was going to talk about Dick Cheney, but it turns out you have to go to prison for talking about assassination, so I’m kind at an impasse - Haw haw haw” - that would be just as stupid and vulgar as Coulter’s “joke.” But Maher never said anything remotely like that, and pretending that he did requires some creative mangling of standard English.</p>
<p>Maher never said he wanted Cheney assassinated, period.</p>
<p>“she is a mole sent into the conservative camp to make conservatives look bad, thats it right?”</p>
<p>Not “sent in”. She is very, very smart lady, and found a great way to make a living by pulling conservatives fuller and fuller in.</p>
<p>There were more than a few laughs at CPAC, and she is a very popular lady.</p>
<p>What Coulter does is not any different from what Michael Moore does or what Al Franken does or what the Daily Show does. I can tune in any day and see Christian Fundamentalists or hunters or pro life protesters painted as semi-human heartless morons. But people on the Right have developed thicker skins and people on the Left don’t expect vicious satire from the generally bloodless conservatives in this country. Get over it. Politics is a blood sport.</p>
<p>re: rugburn’s post #82–
An audience does exist: my in-laws :(</p>
<p>Heh-heh. If you are worried about your carbon footprint you can buy carbon offsets to assuage your guilt. If found yourself laughing at Ann Coulter it has been suggested that you buy homophobic offsets:
<a href=“johnedwards.com”>johnedwards.com;
<p>The difference, higherlead, is that being gay is something you are and being a pro-lifer, or a fundamentalist, or a hunter is something you choose to be. While I don’t approve of vitriol of the type spewed by far left extremists either, there is an additional level of repugnance when we are talking about an offensive slur used to refer to a certain group of people.</p>
<p>It just occurred to me that she has already referred to another Democrat as being a “f-g.” She called Al Gore a “total f-g” back in 2006.</p>
<p>What a delightful human being…</p>
<p>She’s alot smarter than Al Franken or Michael Moore could ever aspire to be, whether or not you like her politics.</p>
<p>2dsdad, what exactly do you ‘get’ for your money? and what is the delivery system for this confession booth service? I love the equation between money and sin, in all its forms, falling under ‘payment’</p>
<p>rorosen:</p>
<p>I believe that in Medieval Europe, it was common for nobles to buy absolution for their sins; the sale of “indulgences” was an important source of revenue for the Church.</p>
<p>explains why it never hurts to portray the devil above your apse, to remind the customers where their money is going. just as on the edwards site, coulters eager sinful mouth presently decorates the donation form. makes me want to give.</p>
<p>RugBurn, thanks for pointing out that Maher didn’t say what was attributed to him earlier in this thread.</p>
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<p>This is not at all true. </p>
<p>No one “chooses to” believe, they simply do believe what they find to be true. No one believes what they do not in fact “believe,” and they do not decide to believe something (if they actually believe) but are rather left with no honest alternative. </p>
<p>Belief is beyond a choice.
It is in the truest sense a subjective fact to the individual that believes this or that. Belief is beyond choice and is, in that sense not so different than sexual preference. </p>
<p>Perhaps there are degrees of subjective facts, some being in some sense “harder than others”. But they are facts nonetheless.</p>
<p>All beliefs are, to a degree, subject to doubt, but that only proves their power and force.</p>
<p>Try to make yourself believe what you do not believe.</p>
<p>There is a name for this: delusion.</p>
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<p>Not a chance. I’d love to see Coulter go one-on-one with Franken (oops, bad wording - now I’ll have a very unpleasant visual for the rest of the day). All she would end up doing is calling him Godless and a ■■■■■■. If Coulter were not blonde she would never have an audience. In a few years she will be a footnote, left to enjoy her wealth and a plastic battery-operated accessory.</p>