<p>“The difference, higherlead, is that being gay is something you are and being a pro-lifer, or a fundamentalist, or a hunter is something you choose to be.”</p>
<p>Actually being Gay is something you do and unless you are incapable of controlling your behaviour it is a choice. It is rather like being sexualy attracted to your sister or small children or goats in that regard. The urge might be there but one is not compelled by nature to act on it.</p>
<p>Anyway, it was good to see the CPAC plurality vote for Presidential candidate who has pledged to “out gay” Ted Kennedy.</p>
<p>"It is rather like being sexualy attracted to your sister or small children or goats in that regard. "</p>
<p>Gee how do you deal with pressure? These thoughts never seemed to cross my mind. eeeww. Is this what you think about?</p>
<p>“Gee how do you deal with pressure? These thoughts never seemed to cross my mind. eeeww. Is this what you think about?”</p>
<p>No I think about buggering the next door neighbor, and I assume that doesn’t elicit the same gut reaction on your part?</p>
<p>The social taboos on incest, beastiality, pederasty, and homosexuality are very long standing and widespread in human society. I wonder why that is? There are of course cultures where some or all of those practices have been tolerated, but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule. What collective human experience has led to them being disdained through most of history by most societies?</p>
<p>The difference between pederasty or bestiality and sodomy or incest between adults is of course that the adults are capable of informed consent. That being the case I see no reason for government to interfere in the later but proscribe the former. However permitting something under the law does not require that society or parts thereof not find the behaviour abominable. So by all means legalize sodomy and incest and proscribe beastiality and pederasty. You pick the ones that elicit the eeww factor for you and allow the rest of us to do the same.</p>
<p>I’m for the one the CPAC-favored candidate has in the past endorsed.</p>
<p>“No I think about buggering the next door neighbor, and I assume that doesn’t elicit the same gut reaction on your part?”</p>
<p>What’s he look like?</p>
<p>Compared with what Rudy and Newt did to their wives, buggering the next door neighbor might be a considerable improvement.</p>
<p>Isn’t JOhn McCain also in the Rudy and Newt club, Mini?</p>
<p>From the little I know, Johnnie did not rise to that level of public outrageousness.</p>
<p>“What’s he look like?”</p>
<p>Sorry you will have to go to another board for that. I have a hard enough time staying within the terms of service without taking a stab at homoerotic porn:-)</p>
<p>“taking a stab at homoerotic porn”</p>
<p>Boy, another one, right down the middle. He swings and it clears the fence…</p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t mean to get your goat. I’m sure you’ll need it later. ;)</p>
<p>I agree with rugburn. It is only Ms Coulter’s outrageous utterances which keep her gainfully employed. And I suspect that she rarely believes that these off the wall rants are at all true.</p>
<p>I have to admit, HL is whole lot more entertaining than AC is.</p>
<p>why would you rarely believe it?</p>
<p>“why would you rarely believe it?”</p>
<p>She’s an intelligent person who has previously succeeded in arenas where she’d need to keep these rants to herself (i.e. 6th circuit judicial clerkship). So she clearly knows what the rules of discourse are. Then all of a sudden she starts breaking them, and she becomes a famous millionaire. I don’t think it’s too much of a leap to suppose that she came up with a good shtick, nothing more.</p>
<p>I think she believes it…I don’t think she is a fake…and when you hear the people laughing, eh</p>
<p>actually, laughter is frequently an expression of discomfort, releasing tension through breath. comedy is a man in trouble, they say. those laughs in that room sounded uneasy to me. lenny bruce had a similar effect.</p>
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<p>I keep forgetting that it was open mike night, and Ann just barged up there on the stage. No one even knew she was coming. Bigotry and hate speech make them so uneasy they go out of their way to avoid it…</p>
<p>lenny bruce? no so much.</p>
<p>The Diceman, yup. Ever notice how you never see the diceman and Ann Coulter together at the same time? hmmmm. </p>
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<p>did I scare hl away, I think he’s hiding his goat.</p>
<p>Equal Opportunity Outrage?</p>
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<p>(Polite laughter all around).</p>
<p>Howard Dean to Democratic National Committee Black Caucus–Feb. 11, 2005</p>