<p>How many people of color were in the room when Ann was speaking?</p>
<p>We can’t rely on her to give us an accurate count. She’s thinks it’s clever to insist that African American legislators are white, to try to discredit them.</p>
<p>Frankly, I see the thought process behind the Dean statement as being much more egregious than the word choice of Coulter–but that’s just my opinion. Didn’t hear much from the Democrats on that one. (Not sticking up for either one, btw.)</p>
<p>What is wrong with the Dean statement? The truth is that Republicans get a VERY low % of African-American votes – only about 10%. And when you look at party activists and elected officials, there are many fewer Republican African-Americans than Democratic African-Americans. The number of African-Americans in the U.S. Congress is at an all time high and there is, I believe, exactly one Republican member of Congress who is African-American (or did he retire last year?).</p>
<p>BTW talk about nervous laughter why did Opie want so badly to resort to it as soon as I brought incest and sodomy up in the same sentence? is it because all of the arguements for legalizing and legitimizing the one apply to the other?</p>
<p>Actually nearly all state legislatures disagree with you, higherlead. Sodomy is legal is almost every state, while incest is illegal. Thus the state legislators and governors see these as different.</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but if you don’t understand what is wrong with the Dean statement, there is nothing I can say. I don’t mean to be rude or condescending–it’s just that if you don’t get it, there’s nothing I can say to make you get it.</p>
<p>Well, as a group of historians wrote in a brief that they submitted to the Supreme Court, “Laws singling out sexual (or “sodomitical”) conduct between partners of the same sex for proscription are an invention of our time, not the legacy of ‘millennia of moral teaching.’” The historians’ information (see <a href=“http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html[/url]”>http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html</a>) was used by the court majority when it overturned a Texas law that prohibited homosexual sodomy.</p>
<p>“I’m sorry, but if you don’t understand what is wrong with the Dean statement, there is nothing I can say. I don’t mean to be rude or condescending–it’s just that if you don’t get it, there’s nothing I can say to make you get it.”</p>
<p>Hereshoping, I don’t mean to be rude or condescending but if you can’t explain your argument or answer mine with facts and rationality, then I don’t see the point of your post. Let’s try some rational argument, alright?</p>
<p>“Actually nearly all state legislatures disagree with you, higherlead. Sodomy is legal is almost every state, while incest is illegal. Thus the state legislators and governors see these as different.”</p>
<p>Ah but the question is why? Why should incest between two consenting adults be illegal? It was the courts not the legislatures that overturned the sodomy laws on privacy issues but why wouldn’t the same apply to incest? The answer is of course that the sodomites have better lawyers. However intellectual consistency ought to compel the advanced social thinkers here to open a new front for the emancipation of yet another scorned and abused minority who only want to marry their mommies.</p>
<p>momfromme - I haven’t followed your link yet but unless you consider the Buggery Act of 1533 to be part of our time the historians either missed something or you are in amazing shape for a person your age.</p>
<p>“2dsdad, what exactly do you ‘get’ for your money?”</p>
<p>Not much. But you might get a trial lawyer as the next leader of the free world, which I don’t think would be a good thing. I posted the link because I think it is clever of Edwards to use Coulter’s words to raise money and I think it is indicative of how she has now become more helpful to the opposition than to the Republican Party. Of course, she is most helpful to her bank account, and that is all I think she cares about.</p>
<p>In the case of carbon offsets, you get the chance to continue to pollute with a clearer conscience. This year at the Oscars participants got carbon offsets in their “green” gift bags.
<p>So, do offsets, carbon or Coulter, actually reduce the output of the noxious gas? Probably not. Rebound effect of offsets:
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<p>Edwards is over. He’s a joke now. The man is trying to make money off the Coulter comment. I think he’s crossed over into the realm of supersized sleezeball.</p>
<p>“an invention of our time, not the legacy of 'millennia of moral teaching.”</p>
<p>I know millennia refers to intervals of a thousand years and that in Europe they have a different concept of time, but 474 years still seems like a long, long time to me. </p>