Critical mom

<p>Hey parents -
I just typed out this message once and it didn’t go through, so I’ll try to give a short version here. FYI I’m a semi-regular poster under a new name.</p>

<p>The story: I just graduated from an extremely prestigious college, and am starting the master’s program at one of the best graduate schools of journalism in the country. My parents have generously footed the bill for both of these academic endeavors. My issue is with my mother - she criticizes me at times and it’s really hurtful, and I’m not sure how to respond. Journalism-wise, my interest has always been in magazines, and I’ve done well in that area, getting several great internships and making good connections. Sadly, the entry-level salary at a magazine is about $30 to $35,000 for an editorial assistant. As far as I’ve ever been told, a master’s degree doesn’t help that situation - but that’s not why I decided to get one, and both my parents are well aware of that fact. (If you’re curious, I never studied journalism in college because it wasn’t available, and so will use the master’s to get grounded in all of the basic skills and the deeper issues that I missed out on. Not to mention the amazing alumni network and potential hiring boosts from the school’s well-respected program). Several weeks ago, I mentioned the low starting salaries (not for the first time) and my mother seemed mostly exasperated with me, saying how for years she’d tried to “hint” and “suggest” that I try other avenues where I’d make more money, such as broadcast or public relations, and that she didn’t understand why I never “got it.” She spoke to me more or less as if I was an immature dreamer. I don’t really think I am. I’ve never been averse to exploring other career avenues, and during my master’s program am scheduled to take courses in not only print, but also online media (where the growth and potential for higher starting pay is), and in the spring I plan to take a broadcast course. However, my major is print. </p>

<p>Today, my mother mentioned the possibility of my eventually moving to the broadcast major at school (another “hint”?) and I explained that the structure of the school doesn’t allow for print students to switch to broadcast, only the other way around, but that it’d be possible for me to switch to online media in the spring, which I was considering. At that, she became angry, saying “Just forget it, it’s your life, you do what you want. If you’re determined to be poor, that’s your choice.” How did she extrapolate that not majoring in broadcast means I’m determined to be poor??? And when I told her I thought her response was a bit dramatic and unnecessary given that I was only giving her the facts, she interrupted me to simply say that <em>I</em> was being dramatic. Again, I came away from the conversation having been made to feel stupid and immature. Compounding the problem is the fact that nearly any criticism from my mother has the ability to reduce me to tears, so it’s hard to sound or appear grown-up whether I believe I’m right or not. </p>

<p>So basically I guess my question is, does anyone have advice on how to make my mother see that I’m not just a dumb kid (I’m 22, in case you’re wondering) who doesn’t give any thought to her decisions? Or maybe just advice on how to not let her criticism upset me so much so that a) I maybe don’t feed her image of me by looking childish, or b) so that I’m not sad and insecure about my decisions. </p>

<p>I know I’m young and don’t know everything, but I like to think I do have some sense of judgment and knowledge about the field I’ve chosen to enter (including the fact that starting salaries for broadcast aren’t any better - and are sometimes worse - than those for magazines, whatever my mother may believe). If there are any parents out there who are knowledgeable about the field of journalism, I’d really appreciate your insight too, if there’s some way I’m just not seeing that would allow me to bypass the entry-level poor-house phase.</p>

<p>Just because starting salaries are low doesn’t mean all magazine salaries are low. As you rise thru the ranks your salary will increase.</p>

<p>It seems to me the best thing you can do is to just tune your mom out. She has spent a lot of money on your education and it’s probably frustrating to her that you’re not going to see a lot of monetary return on that money. But you don’t say anything about your parents trying to force you to major in anything else by threatening to withdraw funding. So they are still supporting you financially, if not emotionally. </p>

<p>If you really want to be able to tune her out, you’ll have to find a way to fund your education yourself. Otherwise, take this as a life lesson: money always comes with strings attached. In this case, the strings are your mother’s disapproval. Are those strings that are worth putting up with?</p>

<p>Even if you fund your education yourself, she’ll probably still disapprove, but you’d be able to say, “It’s my money and my decision.”</p>

<p>A starting salary is just that - a starting salary. From there you’ll seek whatever opportunities you can which might be a better salary in the same field as you gain experience and seize opportunites, you’ll stay (willingly) working at a lower salary because you love what you do and think it’s worth it, or you’ll decide to switch to another field - maybe even one of the ones you M suggested but not because she wants you to but rather, because ‘you’ want to. </p>

<p>I’m sure she only wants what she thinks is best for you but in the end it’s your life. It’s worth listening to her perspective since she’s probably thinking more practically and you’re thinking more idealistically at this point. Listen to it and consider it but it’s your decision and if you want to pursue a particular avenue, right out of college is the best time to do it. The initial career choice isn’t etched in stone - you can alsways change. Just humor her as much as you can and maybe avoid the subject if possible. It’ll all work out okay in the end regardless.</p>

<p>Besides, I’m not sure those other careers your M suggested have a much higher starting salary.</p>

<p>Your parents are paying for your elite education. They haven’t actually forced you to switch. They haven’t withdrawn their financial help. You probably won’t be able to change her mind. You probably won’t be able to get her approval. </p>

<p>With this all in mind, I would simply placate your mom by saying lots of feeling and “I” statements like “I hear you are concerned for my financial well-being.” or “I really appreciate how you have supported my higher education even when we don’t see eye to eye on my major” or “I love you”. </p>

<p>Whatever you do, do NOT engage in “logical” discussions about your major choices… just nod a lot and listen to her concerns and mirror them back. Don’t bother to change your major if you are this far in. Let her know that really talented people can get into broadcast and other lucrative fields even if their base major/master isn’t quite the same thing (give her hope - and it is true). Let her know that you plan to be industrious and support yourself in a way that keeps you healthy and strong (ie: health insurance, a home to live in, etc.)</p>

<p>She needs reassurance, she needs to be heard. As long as you are dependent upon her money - try to go that route. Your alternative is to start paying your own way through graduate schools - many people do it. It is a choice available to you (might be hard, might slow you down, might have to work a lot or take a year off to earn money, might cost a lot in student loans - BUT people do it all the time).</p>

<p>Frankly, I’d just acknowledge my mother’s concerns, thank her for them, politely change the topic and keep going to classes. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Annika</p>

<p>As a parent, I would be thrilled that you have found a field that interests you AND that it provides a career path.</p>

<p>Furthermore, you have sense enough that you are making sure you have the academic credentials that will help you in your chosen vocation.</p>

<p>Many other interests do not lead as directly to paying jobs (what if you had majored in art history? or philosophy?) – so I am glad that you are finding your way – your mother is grumbling, but hopefully, if they are willing to pay your tuition, it is not much more than that.</p>

<p>My daughter just graduated with a degree in PR from one of the top schools in the country… she’d be thrilled if she landed an entry-level job at $35,000!</p>

<p>Just to add, she had a huge interview last Friday with a firm she’d LOVE to work for (she sought them out before they even had an opening), and told me she’d work there for free, for the experience (not like that will happen, but it shows what she’d do to get her foot in the door).</p>

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<p>Thanks so much for the responses and advice, everyone.</p>

<p>I actually was planning to take out loans on my own and pay my way through graduate school, but when my parents made the offer to take care of it, it seemed wisest to go the no-debt route and begin my life with a clean financial slate. It’s just an awkward stage of life to be in, I guess - not quite self-sufficient yet but still an adult with my own thoughts and goals. Only one more year though!</p>

<p>One concern my mom raised was that the name of the school(s) you went to only has any value when you’re first starting out, so that if you don’t use it right away it won’t ever have any real worth. Adding to that, starting salary does have a big impact on your earning potential. So does anyone have any thoughts on how to deal with this, or if it’s even true?</p>

<p>Not terribly knowledgeable about journalism - I had a friend and a nephew both go for masters at NW - one in magazine editing and one more focused in newspaper. Both had to have roommates when they started out in their first jobs. As long as they were happy in their work, they didn’t mind.</p>

<p>I wanted to add that you will probably have to deal with your critical mother for a long time - mine is 87 and still very critical. Sometimes it seems like nothing you do or say is good enough. Some of my sisters have very little contact with her for this reason. Good luck!</p>

<p>Haven’t you heard of a lot of successful people that started out “in the mail room” or some other lowly position? Good employees will rise in an organization, no matter what school they went to, or where they started out.
In the end, it’s what the person brings to the job. </p>

<p>Your mom is just anxious and wants what’s best for you,but don’t let her anxiety create doubts about yourself. I think it’s wonderful that you have graduated (bravo!) and that you have a goal you’re working toward. Good for you!</p>

<p>It seems to me that you’re on the right track. Nothing counts in the publishing world as much as a little prior experience. You may need to work for a few years for one publisher to learn the ropes, and you may not be paid all that well, but as you move around during your career you’ll be qualified for higher paying positions. The important thing is to find work you enjoy that will enable you to support yourself. Start there. Good luck, and enjoy the ride!</p>

<p>Lafalum, love your post. I agree completely. Basically, the reason you are having to put up with the remarks is because you are still living in your parents’ pockets. When you are out of that situation, there may be some improvement. </p>

<p>I see a bit of this with my children. They very much want the things that money buys but are not interested in going into fields of work that would give them a better chance of getting that type of money, something that H and I did so that we can afford to give our kids some of these things. As much as we love our children and want to give them all they want as parents often wish, we also wish that they could provide themselves all they want. It is a fear that we are giving them too much and getting them too comfortable at a level that they will not be able to sustain. As someone who had to scrimp and work hard at many things that were not enjoyable to get where we are, it is scary to us that our children are not going in that direction, yet enjoy the fruits of this labor that they do not want to do.</p>

<p>I agree with those who say that starting salaries in any field are just that, and someone with motivation can take opportunities and make a lot of money.Just because you are going into a field that does not pay much as a rule does not mean that you cannot find a more lucrative application within the field. However, the friends I have in journalism, including a number of magazine editors do not make much money, and those with graduate degrees don’t seem to be making more than those who went right into the field.</p>

<p>A piece of useful data: A dean at one of the nation’s prominent j-schools told us on a tour that it’s a myth that broadcast salaries are high. Celebrity anchors and reporters make huge salaries, but those jobs are few and far between. This dean said that broadcast is actually the lowest-paying area of journalism.</p>

<p>My son is starting undergrad journalism school next week (eek! I can’t believe it). I couldn’t even begin to count the number of times people have told me that there won’t be any jobs and he won’t make any money (as if it’s their business, but never mind). It’s his passion (photojournalism), he deserves to pursue it, and I will be behind him all the way to his first Pulitzer.</p>

<p>As others have said here, try to politely tune your mother out, and go on about your business. You probably can’t get her to see it your way right now. Good luck to you–you sound like you’re on a great track.</p>

<p>OP - At the risk of piling on, I agree with the above posters also. And IMHO following your heart while you’re young is something you owe to both yourself and your society. (As the old wheeze goes, “you can’t win if you don’t play.”) I started with two “mini-careers” each of which was considerably more frivolous than your ambitions. After a few years I switched over to some things more traditional, but my life and my career greatly benefited from having done those “minis.”</p>

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teriwtt:
I hope she gets the job!</p>

<p>jschooler09 - Your mom doesn’t mean it! What she is trying to say is:</p>

<p>I care about what happens to you.
I want only good things for you.
I’ve given up a lot for you, and I’m looking for signs you appreciate it.
I’m afraid for you. I’m afraid you won’t be able to take care of yourself. That you’ll be disappointed. That you won’t make it, and I won’t be there to help pick up the pieces.</p>

<p>Your response should be:</p>

<p>Thanks for caring, Mom. I love you, too.
I appreciate your help, and I plan on working really hard to give you every penny’s worth.
I know I have a tough road ahead of me. I need to feel like you’re in my corner. I’m sorry you are afraid I won’t make it. Sometimes I’m afraid, too. But if you get mad at me when I express my fears, then I can’t talk to you about them.</p>

<p>^^^ thanks ucsd… she does, too. She actually is doing contract work right now for Comcast and a small PR firm, but she wants to experience the whole living and working in Chicago phenomenon, and her current situation requires her to live at home. </p>

<p>Honestly, and this goes to the OP, when she graduated, her school made sure to communicate a message to both graduates and parents regarding future jobs. They said it is sometimes disheartening for these grads to go out into the real world in their chosen field. Many of their friends will have jobs upon graduation, in fields they studied. But communications doesn’t have the lead time on jobs like other fields do, so companies usually don’t hire four-six months out. They did say that approximately 80% of grads have a job using their degree within six months of graduation, though. So it just requires some patience, and being at the right place at the right time.</p>