<p>Dorm Vs Commuter Life aside, which is a better school to attend. Cuny Queens College in New York or Northeastern University in Boston?</p>
<p>The cost of attending CUNY Queens College would be FAR cheaper than Northeastern University. Basically if i graduate from CUNY Queens College i will have ZERO debt and if i graduate from Northeastern University I would have around $12,000 - $18,000 in debt.</p>
<p>But what the value of a good education? From what I hear Northeastern University is far superior to CUNY Queens college.</p>
<p>Northeastern univeristy, IMO, is no better than queens college, the extra debt, especially in your case, just confirms that. I have several friends going to both (i attend a large nyc public hs), and trust me, northeastern univeristy will not open any extra doors. The only reason people go there is because it is in boston and they could not get into another boston school (BU/BC…).</p>
<p>Queens College is well respected and known in New York City and tri-state area. If you intent to find jobs in NYC, why waste more money in Northeastern?</p>
<p>This is where CC falls in credibility. People claim to know what they are talking about but in reality have no facts to back up their comments. Im going to stick up for my school and say that Northeastern is a fantastic option and offers several opportunities with internships and research. Northeastern is a top 100 research university and im not quite familiar with Queens College so I will not make any ill informed comments. Northeastern is a self selecting school and i personally know many students who passed up schools with “higher rankings” to attend here. To say Northeastern students could not get into BU or BC is a myth becuase i know several students who have (myself included) and our student body is identical to BU if you go by SAT and GPA statitics. </p>
<p>I agree with you 100% that Northeastern is an expensive school but what private school isn’t? If you have the stats they are VERY generous with merit aid. Im not sure what sort of opportunities you’re looking for but Northeastern has numerous resources that you can take advantage of. Im sure Queens college is a good a school just make sure you make a pros and cons list, and visit the schools before you make a decision. Take the advice you recieve on this forum with a grain of salt. A lot of people have certain perceptions about schools that are simply false and besides, these two schools are vastly different. Good luck.</p>
<p>LOL im sorry but Anonymous91 comments got me a little heated. Anyways here are some of the accolades that Northeastern has garnered over the years vs CUNY queens. Rankings don’t tell the whole story but this is just a snap shot. This information was sourced from wikipedia.</p>
<p>Northeastern University
Rankings
Northeastern is one of the fastest rising schools in the U.S. News rankings. Since 2001, Northeastern has moved up 54 spots in the rankings.</p>
<p>1st for Best Co-ops/Internships (the only time that US News and World Report ranked schools on this characteristic) (2003)
Also in 2003, Northeastern’s career services department was awarded top honors by Kaplan Newsweek’s “Unofficial Insiders Guide to the 320 Most Interesting Colleges and Universities.”
1st for “Best Internships/Career Services” (Princeton Review) (2008)
96th on the list of “Top National Universities” (US News and World Report’s list of hundreds of universities across the nation) (2009)
60th on the list of “Best Engineering Graduate Schools” (US News and World Report) (2009)
61st on the list of “Best Computer Science Graduate Schools” (US News and World Report) (2009)
13th on the list of “Best Graduate Schools 2009” for Computer Science, Programming Languages specialty (US News) (2008)
4th as one of “America’s Most Entrepreneurial Campuses” (Forbes Magazine)
Northeastern is also listed among 25 “Cutting-Edge Schools” in the 2008 edition of “You Are Here,” a college guide by Kaplan Publishing.
High Technology MBA program - 1st in a “Top Techno MBA Survey” released by ComputerWorld Magazine.
Graduate School of Engineering - ranked in the top 50 according to US News (2007)
Oceanography program - 26th in the nation by the National Research Council
Criminology program - ranked in the top 14 by US News
Architecture program - 12th in the nation in terms of research by Archsoc.com (2007)
School of Law - 1st in public interest law by the American Bar Association [35]. The law school was also ranked first in the same catetgory by the National Jurist and preLaw Magazine.
Physician Assistant program - 17th in the nation by US News
College of Computer and Information Science (CCIS) - named as one of the top 10 innovative “IT Schools to Watch” by Computerworld magazine (2008)
College of Business Administration (undergraduate business school)</p>
<p>26th in the nation (Business Week) (2007)
1st in internships according to (Business Week) (2007)
15th for international business (US News) (2007)
24th in the U.S. in entrepreneurship (Entrepreneur magazine and The Princeton Review) (2007)
Graduate School of Business Administration EMBA program</p>
<p>Ranked in the top 50 in the nation by the Financial Times
21st in the nation by US News
In addition, Northeastern undergrad business school students have dominated case competitions against other Boston area business schools winning 10 of the last 13 Business School Beanpot competitions. </p>
<p>VS</p>
<p>CUNY Queens</p>
<p>Rankings
In its 2006 edition of “America’s Best Value Colleges,” The Princeton Review ranks Queens College eighth in the United States.</p>
<p>Queens College is ranked as one of the “25 Hottest Universities” in the Newsweek/Kaplan 2008 College Guide. </p>
<p>The 2008 America’s Best Colleges ranked by Forbes.com placed Queens College at #389.</p>
<p>Listen, in his case, northeastern would simply not be worth the debt. Northeastern does have a lot of internship possibilities, but its not like an employer (especially in NY) would care if you went to northeastern or queens college (especially honors… which is way more selective than northeastern). Northeastern may be great for kids who can afford it, but if you can’t, it isn’t worth it.</p>
<p>$12-$18k in debt is just not that much. At top, assuming Stafford at 6.8%, it would be around $220/mo for 10 years, in inflated dollars. That difference - $2,640/year in net salary - might be made up rather quickly if your job placement coming out of Northeastern is more “advanced” as a result of a job following on from an internship opportunity.</p>
<p>My argument is that most CCers speak with nothing to back up their arguments like yourself. Here I cite another example that you claim, "but its not like an employer (especially in NY) would care if you went to northeastern or queens college (especially honors… which is way more selective than northeastern). I had a 3.7 with an SAT hovering around 2200 and did not make honors. I reapplied this year and still did not get in. Northeastern attracts students from all over the country where as most of the CUNY schools are labeled commuter which is a fact. On what merits can you base that Northeastern students could not get into BU or BC and that CUNY Queens has a better honors program? This is my only problem with your statements. </p>
<p>Northeastern has mastered the coop philosophy and have been doing it for over 100 years. I highly doubt that CUNY Queens will have better opportunities than northeastern when it comes to finding internships in NY. We have partnerships with over thousands of companies throughout the world. A fact that CUNY Queens cannot claim. In terms of job placement especially in this economy its definietly worth it.</p>
<p>ranked
1st for “Best Internships/Career Services” (Princeton Review) (2008)</p>
<p>Im not here to argue but to clear my schools name because you bash it with unwarranted comments.</p>
<p>It is true i would save money for grad school. Isn’t CUNY queens like the third worst out of all the CUNY schools? Baruch and Hunter are WAY better from my understanding. I know a couple of dudes who go to CUNY Hunter…not to bright.</p>
<p>It would be fallacious to say that Queens College is the “third worst”. I think it’s quite a good college in its own right, especially for 1st generation college students. Queens College is definitely a commuter college, but that doesn’t make it terrible. It’s designed to serve the people of NYC, while Northeastern is a national university. </p>
<p>Truly, I think OP would be served well at both places, debt aside.</p>
<p>I did say that the internships at northeastern were better, and the fact that northeastern is viewed behind BU and BC (especially…) is a fact as well. If all things were equal for the OP id say hands down go to northeastern, but because its not, and im assuming 18k worth of debt is pretty bad (atleast for my family), i say that he would be better served going to queens college. Most of the people who i know who go to northeastern are paying over 20,000 dollars, and is there only option to leave home. The fact that you did not get into honors b/c of your sat and GPA is anecdotal, and it takes more than just grades/SAt to get into an honors program. Also, saying that I “know nothing” is ridiculous, especially because you don’t know anything about Queens college, and I have a myriad of friends who go to/ are going to northeastern. Of course northeastern is a better school, and will perhaps give you more opportunities, but any kids who works hard and searches for opportunities at either school will be rewarded.</p>
<p>Queens College is what CUNY designs for, a good (or decent) university for the mass who can’t afford private education. I know many CCs would not go to CUNY or SUNY, but thousands voted with their wallets. Northeastern could be a better school, but I would not look down on Queens because it is cheaper.</p>
<p>Especially if the OP wants to work in the city 4 years from now.</p>
<p>To each his own, i respect your opinion but you have only reinforced my prior statements. You are a generalist/populist and follow what most people abide by which are rankings. Your general perception of Northeastern being behind BU and BC is prevalent and widley accepted throughout these forums. Having friends that attend Northeastern and Queens does not mean you have a solid understanding of what the schools offer and its clearly evident through your prior posts as you have contradicted yourself on several occasions. As I stated before I do not have a solid understanding of CUNY Queens which is why I did not make any derogatory comments against it. </p>
<p>I chose Northeastern over BU and BC and other higher ranked schools due to the overall strength of my particular major and coop, which was a big catalyst. In no way shape or form is there any sort of sustainable evidence where you can say that academically BU or BC is the clear winner over NEU. Sure you can say BU and BC have a better reputation but beyond that its all marginal and insignificant.</p>
<p>here is some of my anecdotal evidence as to why people need to take advice with a grain of salt, you just cannot trust this type of advice.</p>
<p>*The only reason people go there is because it is in boston and they could not get into another boston school (BU/BC…). </p>
<p>*(especially honors… which is way more selective than northeastern)</p>
<p>*and trust me, northeastern univeristy will not open any extra doors</p>
<p>12-18k, relativley speaking is not a huge amount of debt. </p>
<p>I think you misunderstood me. CUNY honors program, which i guess you don’t know much about, is more selective than getting into northeastern in general. However, it maybe true that northeastern honors is harder to get into than CUNY honors (i can’t say, i don’t know). I did not mean to say that the CUNY honors program at queens college is better than the northeastern honors program.
If you cannot argue that BU/BC is academically better than northeastern based on rankings and the lot, i guess there is no “sustainable evidence” citing that Harvard is academically better in any form other than reputation (which usually stems from a school’s academics). I am not one to follow rankings, i too have chosen a school which was ranked slightly lower than another school i was accepted too, but followed my heart instead of US news. I don’t know how i contradicted myself in these posts, but I am just here to reinforce my message to the OP. If 12-18k is no big deal, go to northeastern. If it is, you will do fine at queens college.</p>
<p>This will be my last reply. To compare Harvard to the aformentioned schools is foolish for many reasons. Harvard has an unparalleled track record for producing many distinguished people in virtually every single field. This is attributable to a great education/exposure to the best teachers around and also an unmatched alumni nework. This is consistent with most Ivy league/top schools. NEU, BU, and BC simply do not have this track record to compare.</p>
<p>There are several instances where you contradict yourself but I shouldn’t have to point them out to you but here is an example below</p>
<p>*and trust me, northeastern univeristy will not open any extra doors
*I did say that the internships at northeastern were better</p>
<p>have a fantastic summer man i can’t wait to go back to school in the fall!</p>