D20 wants college with "no lax bros". Is there an index for that?

This why my son plays baseball !! Lol… all in good fun!

Back in my day it was the rugby players no one wanted to go near.

It has club lacrosse not varsity, but yes, I assume there are at least a few lax bros on campus. I’m sure there are a few on every campus, but some keep them more hidden than others.

@eb23282 I posted some college-fit search starter-steos on a post called “Which LAC would be the best fit.”

Maybe see if that offers the kind of starter-help you are asking about?

“Because of that I would not use the presence of a lacrosse team as a proxy for a lax bro culture.”

What would you use then to determine lax bro culture?

@BB think you missed my point or I failed to articulate it cogently in my several paragraphs. It’s offensive as a man to be generalized or marginalized, and, if you review the posting to which I respond, the what immediately follows, you’ll potentially see why I said that. Yes, one bad apple can perpetuate and offset the good one(s).

@theloniusmonk - I think the prominence of Greek life on campus would be a better proxy than the presence of a lacrosse team. Fraternity culture is often very similar to the lax bro culture. Schools with prominent Greek life will likely have enough people on campus to influence campus life. There are multiple Greek organizations some having more members than a lacrosse team. A lacrosse team is usually less than 50 guys hardly enough to influence campus culture, even at a small school.

Good example @Proudpatriot I think. I cannot imagine 50 guys on a LAX team at say 1800 sized Amherst or Bowdoin, but perhaps the rosters are that large; I could see that at Williams possibly. I also wonder what percentage of LAX play any other Sport outside Spring and am ignorant if there is a Winter “indoor” season. That said, with 40-50 at a selective LAC, I would be disheartened if a “Bro” culture permeated an entire team and figure the team “self-manages” ontoward behavior - I’d hope - just as one would hope all Sports do. It is part of the responsibility of having the (paid) privilege of being a student-athlete vs student-non varsity club member.

“I think the prominence of Greek life on campus would be a better proxy than the presence of a lacrosse team. Fraternity culture is often very similar to the lax bro culture.”

I agree in general however, at some colleges without greek life, sports teams and their social life can replicate some of the unfortunate sides of greek life. To me, it is more about sports team culture on a campus. On lacrosse team might not make a difference but several sports teams operating in the same fashion can.

“It is part of the responsibility of having the (paid) privilege of being a student-athlete vs student-non varsity club member.”

At lost selective LACs, it certainly isn’t paid (read as athletic scholarship).

Very few student athletes are on full scholarships.

*Most selective LACs not lost. :slight_smile:

Because I’m avoiding work, I just looked – both Amherst and Williams Men’s Lacrosse team have about 45 guys on the roster.

That being said, being a lacrosse player does not make one a “lax bro.” Plenty of schools have team cultures which are antithetical to that, though there will always be some guys who are outliers in terms of team culture.

@bigfandave

My point actually was that I don’t think you should be understanding the term as “generalizing.”

My point is that only the “bros” are being called “bro.” And “bro” behavior on the part of some does not tarnish all. (Unless they are complicit in some way… but I had not inferred or implied that they were.)

I have kids - excellent athletes - at Bowdoin and Midd. There are “bros” there, but that does not make my kid a “bro.” If there are “bros” on the hockey team at Bowdoin, it does not mean that the whole Bowdoin hockey team are “bros,” let alone that every hockey player ever is a bro.

But… I am not going to avoid naming that behavior just because some people aren’t doing it. I assure you that I wasn’t generalizing. In fact when I read back over what I wrote, it seems that my point about not generalizing is crystal clear. But… I guess it is hard to interpret writing on a discussion board from people one doesn’t know.

Still, rest assured that I am not generalizing.
Also, rest assured that whenever I identify “bro” behavior, I will continue to call it what it is.

Most varsity men’s lacrosse rosters have 40-45 players. Army, Navy and AF have 60-80. Not all of those 45 players will travel with the team, and usually only 20 will see playing time in a game.

@bigfandave

There are 45 men on the Amherst roster

http://athletics.amherst.edu/sports/mlax/2017-18/roster

For the record, in 2016, there were a number of scandals associated with sexism on college sports teams here in the Northeast - and none of them were associated with LAX teams…

In alphabetical order:

The Amherst College men’s cross country team was suspended for 4 semesters.

The Columbia men’s wrestling team was suspended.

The Harvard men’s soccer team had their season cancelled.
Shortly afterwards the Harvard men’s cross country team was suspended.

The Princeton men’s swim and dive team was suspended.

A Yale basketball player was expelled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/12/16/harvard-and-columbia-did-it-in-november-now-princeton-suspends-team-over-vulgar-messages/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.872bf350f88a

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/11/07/harvard-sexism-scandal-spreads-cross-country