@penn95 And here you go, since you can’t seem to do the research yourself
https://www.engineering.cornell.edu/admissions/undergraduate/firstyear/class_profiles.cfm
Cornell engineering with higher scores than the other colleges within Cornell has an admit profile roughly equal to that of Hopkins’ enrolled profile (which includes the lower scoring Arts and Sciences division within Hopkins in addition to engineering).
@stevensPR The small difference could very well be explained by Dartmouth’s stronger athletics, strong legacy tradition and the fact that it is probably be more willing to accept very unique candidates with something special but not super high scores. Such an applicant is more likely to apply/attend at an ivy+ school than Hopkins.
yet it still doesn’t mean that somehow Hopkins students are more academically accomplished.
@Penn95 Cool, more conjecture grounded in quicksand than fact
@stevensPR Superior athletics and stronger legacy ties are facts not conjecture. As is the fact that unique applicants tend to flock more to ivy+ schools. Besides what are your facts? that 10-20 point differences in SAT scores make for a more academically accomplished student body? haha ok.
@penn95 or you know 50. But hey, I’m not the one that slept during stats!
@stevensPR We are talking about dartmouth here, not Cornell (Cornell can’t be directly compared, remember? ) Even if the difference is 30-40 points though it still doesn’t mean much out of context. Different schools have different priorities and can afford to admit more unique student with lower stats.
You don’t seem to understand it do you? Focus on just scores does not mean a more accomplished student body. It means a school wants to accept more people with high scores to improve their rankings. Vandy does it, Hopkins does it. Other schools have no need to do that and are able to accept a more balanced student body.
Not saying that the student body at Dartmouth or Cornell is more accomplished than the one at Hopkins. But saying the opposite is also not true.
wow lol @Penn95 @stevensPR
overall, which choice should i select if I want to major in CS, minor in Econ, and complete pre reqs with the most ease and highest chance of getting a high GPA. Which college would put me in a better place in terms of med school/Wall Street placement. I know it’s going to be a lot of work, but I’m willing to do that because I would like to enter finance if med school doesn’t work out. I would also like to select the school that can allow me to conduct research/join a few clubs and still have a solid social life.
@ezbreezy8022 hahah i know we are both too stubborn 
Regarding med schools and wall street i personally believe Dartmouth is the best choice. For Wall Street Dartmouth has the biggest tradition and representation (%-wise) of the three and is in general targeted more by wall-street for recruiting.
Also in general it will be easier at Dartmouth to get a higher GPA (necessary for both med school and wall street recruiting) and it is also a less stressful, more intimate environment than the other two.
Both Dartmouth and Cornell have good social lives (people do have fun outside of studying) and the campuses are beautiful.
One plus i can think in favor of Hopkins is that it would provide you with research opportunities at one of the best medical schools/hospitals in the world, which could help your med school apps. You will have biomedical research opps at both Dartmouth and Cornell but more limited compared to JHU.
Overall i would personally go with Dartmouth.
Can we stop the #!*%-measuring contest and get back to the OP’s concerns?
@stevensPR What% of JHU frosh do you think are premed?
@ezbreezy8022 if your interest is wallstreet, go for Cornell due to proximity and placement. If your interest is pre-med, go to hopkins. Dartmouth for CS is a complete waste. In terms of difficulty, GPA at Hopkins for CS/Econ would be easier than Cornell and harder than Dartmouth.
@mom2collegekids I would wager 25% at JHU is premed, probably 33% enter as premed. But similar to most colleges, some drop it due to changes in interest or lack of grades. Still, a low GPA from Hopkins isn’t necessarily a killer since schools know its rigor.
https://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/threads/even-with-a-very-low-gpa-3-3-dont-lose-hope.991724/
@mom2collegekids and this isn’t to say premed or Hopkins in general is heavily grade deflated (it’s not) - but rather there is no ridiculous grade inflation. it is comparable to Cornell.
@ezbreezy8022 – I will only respond to your question about where to major in CS at Cornell. The CS major is offered in both the College of Arts & Sciences and the College of Engineering. Econ is also housed in Arts & Science, so your best bet would be to transfer from Ag into A&S. Transferring within colleges is relatively easy at Cornell, with the exception of Engineering and Architecture, Art & Planning (would be difficult to graduate on time).
Best of luck.
You can also see the med schools accepting 5 of more JHU students a year:
You have the usual suspects of Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Columbia, Duke, UCSF etc etc. This is more than some schools like Berkeley or UCLA (with way larger pre-med applicant pools) have:
In some cases, you don’t even have a single admit for Harvard or Stanford med from the entire UCLA student body.
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I am making this thread to share my experience on my application cycle this year, which proved to be A LOT better than I expected. Hopefully this gives all those with low GPAs that are planning to apply for future cycles hope. It’s a long post, but read it all and hopefully it will motivate you a little:
Here were my stats:
cGPA: 3.27
sGPA: 3.24
MCAT: 37Q (12PS,11VR,14BS)
Undergraduate: Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering at Johns Hopkins.
Personal: Non-URM hispanic (from Trinidad), 23 years old, male, Maryland resident.
ECs: Various shadowing in health care fields (anesthesiology, radiology, and physical therapy), volunteer at a medical clinic for 6 months, NCAA varsity wrestler, 2nd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do and Jiujitsu and martial arts instructor, musician/composer. Currently working as a personal trainer. NO RESEARCH WHATSOEVER.
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Graduating from UVA med this year.
This student is a male URM ( I don’t care that he calls himself a non-URM Hispanic.There’s no such thing as that in the eyes of med schools or any other sane entity).
He is also an NCAA athlete
He has an outstanding MCAT. 98th percentile
His GPA is below med school standards for most trad applicants. I think what pulled him in is his MCAT, his URM status, and his EC as an NCAA athlete.
Historically, the “grade deflation” reputation at Hopkins has been tied to the fact that they (as well as MIT) used to take pride in the “rigor” of their curriculum and promote the fact that grading freshman year needed to be pass fail so as to allow students to adjust to the harsher grading policy. (MIT has a freshman pass/fail grading policy as well).
More recently, Hopkins has has tried to shed their “cut-throat” reputation in an effort to broaden their appeal (and rise in the rankings), but until recently they were never willing to drop the pass/fail freshman grading as proof (which made some people skeptical).
Most recently, Hopkins voted to drop the freshman pass/fail grading policy (starting this fall). It will be interesting to see what happens going forward, but at a minimum, this makes it difficult to compare current average GPA’s with other schools.