<p>Not to sound totally ignorant, but what is “docent”?</p>
<p>a program at a museum in this context i think</p>
<p>Joe, </p>
<p>You state:
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<p>however you also state:</p>
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<p>Do you get the feeling you have just made a contradiction in terms?</p>
<p>There are women who feel the same way that they won’t look at a man who does not look a certain way. </p>
<p>Just as you would want someone to get to know you below the surface, you could be eliminating some really great women (just as some women may be eliminating you) based on appearance alone and not getting to know the real person. What you put out there does come back.</p>
<p>I alos agree that unless you are looking to attract a barfly, most women aren’t hanging out in bars (with the exception of sinner’s alley:)) You could take a cooking class (ya gotta eat), attend a fundraiser, gallery opening, your local barnes & noble (especially now that they have a starbucks and comfortable seating). This time of year there is always free concerts/theatre in the park. </p>
<p>Volunteering in something you are passionate about is a win in as far as raising awareness, money and giving of your time for a cause you beleive in in addtion to meeting some really great people.Consider participating in Making Stides (American Cancer Society walk for breast cancer) or Race for the Cure (Susan G. Komen foundation)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.komenneohio.org/[/url]”>Northeast Ohio (Cleveland/Akron) - Susan G. Komen®;
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<li> A lecturer or tour guide in a museum or cathedral.</li>
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<p>This is usually a volunteer opportunity at your museum. There is an education element to prepare decents about the collections. You may do school groups, private groups,business groups. general groups. </p>
<p>Basically you walk groups thru and tell them some facts about various specific pieces of the collection.</p>
<p>There are inter museum experiences, it is also a social experience, frequently you will work with other docents to tour a group. </p>
<p>Lots of women do this…LOTS…and they go out in groups or have events at other times also.</p>
<p>I actually have a “Race for the Cure” t-shirt somewhere buried amongst all my clothes. You have to keep in mind that I am 6’3" so its not like I am built like a fire hydrant. When I say “as big as a mascot” I am talking about females who are over 300 lbs. My buddy went out with this girl who had a couple of single friends 2 weeks ago so me and his brother tagged along. I am not trying to sound shallow, (I actually am repulsed by “model type” bodies on women) but these women where at least 300 the one had to be 375 lbs. I just was not attracted to them in any way. (I have to stay out of bars at all costs)</p>
<p>I rambled there for a minute, the point I was trying to make was that I am not one of those guys who will only date ladies as thin as a rail, I just can date anymore chicks over 300 lbs.</p>
<p>You guys have given me some great ideas BTW. I tried my damnest to not say “chicks” any where in my post, but I noticed I said one at the end. :p</p>
<p>Stay outta bars at all costs huh? Your city has plenty of places and stuff where you can find the groups of women…sometimes they run in pairs as you know. Short continuing adult education classses are great. I have an older friend who met 3 different women at a drawing class in the art league. He didn’t much care about drawing but wanted to do just what you are doing…meet some new folks. Class was fairly cheap but paid off very well for him.</p>
<p>My brother met his fiance at Relay for Life. I needed him to chaperone, and I told him there would probably be a bunch of nice girls, since it was a charity event, and that he might have fun getting to know them- guess I was right on that one.</p>
<p>Those Saturday morning charity events are not a bad idea at all.</p>
<p>Get a puppy. It’s a sure-fire way to meet women. Get a very cute, very young puppy about 6 - 8 weeks old and take it for a walk, stumbling and tripping over its leash the way very young dogs do, in a public place –> a park or outdoor mall or somewhere where there are lots of women. They can’t resist coming over and talking about and petting the incredibly cute little dog.</p>
<p>But there are two caveats:</p>
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<li><p>You must be prepared. You will have about 5 minutes to turn on the charm and say something witty that will keep the conversation going a little longer and hopefully provide a way to get to know each other better.</p></li>
<li><p>The puppy will grow out of “cute” in about a month. After that you are on your own with any women you met. Plus you must be prepared to take good care of a dog for the next 15 years.</p></li>
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<p>Borrow a baby. I had more interesting women come up to me out of the blue and start chatting right after D was born…and when I was carrying her out in public.</p>
<p>Yeah, but the presence of a baby heavily implies the presence of a mother somewhere nearby, suggesting that our hero is probably unavailable. Either that or wear a sign that says “This is not my baby”, in which case the effect is lost.</p>
<p>Moreover, who is going loan out their baby, especially as a dating prop?</p>
<p>Okay, Joev. What kind of women do you want to meet? Women, generally speaking, have radar for men with good manners. It’s like having a puppy or a baby; it’s irresistible. Even a slack-jawed idiot will make women think twice if he shows that he is a gentleman. A man with good manners will attract women of all types, guaranteed. Put that together with a man who knows how to dress and is self-confident…ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.</p>
<p>You’re not going to meet decent women if you’re playing the same old game that most women are really tired of dealing with by the time they are your age. If you are ■■■■■■■■, they will know it. So, you have to stop objectifying women and start working on self-improvement. It’s not the instant gratification method of meeting interesting women, but you will feel better about yourself, and women look for that in men.</p>
<p>You’ve stopped drinking (congrats on that, btw!), so you could start working on other aspects of becoming healthier. Find a nice park and start walking after work a few times a week. If you don’t feel like socializing, take your Ipod. If you want to meet people, keep those little, white earbuds out of your ears and pay attention to what’s going on around you. You will be noticed. Be friendly and make eye contact. Go with a friend who has a dog. You’ll be surprised how many women will stop and ask to pet a nice dog. And, I don’t mean a Pit named Fang, or a German Shepard named Adolf. If you don’t have time on the weeknights, make time once a week on the weekends. </p>
<p>Are you a good cook, or want to become one? You’ll meet some nice women in cooking classes. Some young women (like my D) really enjoy taking cooking classes, especially around the holidays.</p>
<p>Check into your city’s recreation dept classes. They have weekend field trips and events that are fun and a good way to meet other people with similar interests (e.g. bird watching, massage classes, regional park hikes, photography trips, stargazing, etc.).</p>
<p>Guys can be real clueless, sometimes, when it comes to understanding what attracts women. My D knows a guy who has a beard down to his navel and tells disgusting jokes, and he wonders why women his age don’t want to go out with him. 
Good luck, Joe.</p>
<p>Guys can be real clueless, sometimes, when it comes to understanding what attracts women</p>
<p>You can say that again.</p>
<p>I just noticed the title of this thread. Am I missing something, or are we past the 90’s? :)</p>
<p>I think that is part of the problem ;)</p>
<p>Yeah, but by the time they find out it’s <em>not</em> your baby, they’re already talking to you. You simply correct their understandable assumption and move on from there. As for a source, I’d suggest Rent-A-Baby.</p>
<p>A German Shepherd puppy wearing a bandana…chick magnet! ;)</p>
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In my day (don’t ask 
), all us single females took classes - ballroom dance, cooking, auto mechanics for dummies etc. etc. etc. for the purpose of meeting eligible single guys. Of course, they weren’t there :(.</p>
<p>But if you go, joev, you’ll be the single guy they’re all looking for and you’ll have a pretty large selection to choose from. 
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<p>Where to meet girls? Movie theatre? Baseball game? Plays? Bookstores - esp. used book stores. Great for meeting people. </p>
<p>Really good dessert places? Bring along a guy friend to the dessert places so you can start chatting to two women (my girl friends and I always go for dessert after dinner - always). </p>
<p>Re: dance classes - try swing or something that requires some strength. </p>
<p>Running clubs might be good, if there is one nearby. </p>
<p>I met a few people this past week - have a pile of email addresses (non-romantic, but hey, they are cool people) from a baseball game, seatmates on an airplane (okay, I’ve also been through about 10 airports recently), and someone at an interview program. </p>
<p>When all else fails, get a super-cute dog and take it for walks.</p>