<p>What is the “de facto” minimum needed to get looked at by a recruiting coach? Assume the applicant is NOT looking for a scholarship, but wants to get into an ivy league school. I was thinking all-state, but is all-american a must?</p>
<p>I don’t think you can get a scholarship anyway…no merit-based scholarships at Ivy Leagues. It’s all need-based. Check me on that, but I think that’s right.</p>
<p>jon314 is right about the IVY not having athletic scholarships (it also does not have academic merit aid)</p>
<p>There is no black and white answer to your answer. The IVY league has standards for athletic recruiting and how many athletes can be how far from a school’s typical student. A bunch of kids can have stats slightly below average … a few can be somewhat below … and a very small number can be quite a ways below. Those are standards for the school across all sports across 4 years … so the best answer to the question “can my kid who is about 100 SAT points below the average get recruites?” is “it depends”. The school only has a few “big break” admissions and they are going to use them on high-impact athletes in sports that school values highly. How much of break does the applicant need? How good are they at their sport? How big is their sport?</p>
<p>I’ve only talked to cross country/track coaches, who were helpful and walk-on optimistic, but I don’t think that I’m going to be recruited. I made it to state for cross country but it’s a lot easier to do so than in other sports. For distance runners, the walk-on range has been about:</p>
<p>1600 - 4:20-4:25
3200 - 9:30 - 9:40</p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t know about any other sports.</p>
<p>The reason I said scholarship was NOT because of a lack of understanding ivy ways. I said it because most top athletes want a scholarship offer because they dont want to pay for tuition, and princeton coaches need those who dont NEED a scholarship badly enough, but are at least competent. I dont want a scholarship, I just want to get into a good school. By the way sl8r, thanks for the stats; they’re encouraging, since I thought I needed sub-4 for princeton, but now I only need to improve my 1600 by about 50 seconds or so. I guess living in NY makes me think that the only way to get states is to be near perfect, but I guess such isn’t the case…especially in one of the largest states.</p>