<p>Weve already had quite a few drownings in the area, ( mostly children) now last weekend at a music festival, one man is dead and others remain hospitalized after taking “molly”.</p>
<p>I dont understand why they dont just smoke pot? You cant OD on that!</p>
<p>D2 was worrying about a friend who is drinking heavily, doing some cocaine, and getting in fights at bars and with good friends who try to intervene. I couldn’t help but say, “geez, if he needs to get high, I wish he’d just smoke weed. You don’t often hear about pot smokers getting into fights at bars, having heart attacks, or ending up in the hospital.”</p>
<p>Not that I advocate drug use, but if you must pick your poison, some seem to be a little more benign than others…</p>
<p>This makes me so sad. My generation (I am the same generation of those affected so I can’t speak to how others were raised) were largely taught from kindergarten that “drugs are bad! don’t do them!” rather than taught “Ok, here are the physical consequences of what could happen and what happens if they mix.” It does a HUGE disservice to people IMO to not properly educate them. When people, especially young people, are taught to “just say no” and they’re saying yes to one, why not say yes to more? Many have NO IDEA that drugs can mix in your system and cause deadly reactions. </p>
<p>I’m not advocating hard drug use (marijuana should be, and will be, legal) but I am advocating for education. “Just say no” doesn’t work with drugs or anything else really for those who want to try something.</p>
Why do they have to take any drugs at all? Taking no drugs, including pot, is the best course to take. It’s actually possible to not take drugs, even when attending a concert.</p>
<p>Sorry EK - your comment just struck me as odd.</p>
<p>That is exactly the attitude that leads to this, GGD. People are going to do drugs and drink. Not saying I like it or approve, but that’s a fact. Why not at least go for the least harmful drug out of the bunch?</p>
<p>I’d pick Mary any day. Young people use drugs for recreation. Why? Usually they’re bored and don’t realize they could be doing something a lot more productive. I agree with romani, education is key. If people are going to do drugs anyways, might as well educate them of the effects.</p>
The least harmful would be to take nothing. They don’t want to take ‘nothing’ since they want to get whatever thrills and excitement they get out of taking a drug, especially if it’s not legal I suppose, so perhaps they find other drugs more appealing in that respect than pot.</p>
<p>I think it’s the attitude that one somehow needs to take drugs that’s the issue - not mine.</p>
<p>I agree on the education part but education alone won’t stop people, especially young risk-taking, peer-pressure-acquiescing, thrill-seeking people. There are plenty of people educated on drugs and alcohol who succumb to them.</p>
I’d say it’s more the thrill of anything that alters your state of mind, enhances your experience, and happens to be extremely social. Hookah is a great example.</p>
<p>@emerald Yes! Animals love their drugs. The crinkling of a gum wrapper can wake my cat mid-slumber from upstairs underneath a bed any day!</p>
<p>Marijuana is legal in Wa for adults, & it has fewer detrimental consequences IMO than alcohol. ( actually thats fact not just my opinion)
You will not die from an overdose of unadulterated marijuana. Even if you are so high you cannot walk or talk.</p>
<p>Assuming that hordes of young people who seem to be driven to push the envelope of sensation, much as they spun around with their eyes closed when they were little, or jumped off any height they could manage- will just be " high on life, man" is naive.</p>
<p>According to what I know about electronic music-( which is not much) drug taking also seems to be embedded in the culture. Or perhaps that was truer ten years ago?</p>
<p>@emerald Electronic music? Do you mean like rave music and stuff? Or EDM (which I just learned about a couple days ago?) If so…I think it is. I know at DayGlo concerts drugs are rampant. At raves and EDM concerts, people takes drugs to “enhance” their experience and to be able to be our in a “trance” easier. Whatever the hell that means. :shrug:</p>
<p>I realize that plenty of people seem to want to take their drugs and not everyone has my approach on the point but really, it ‘is’ possible. I even managed to go to a Grateful Dead concert in the early 70s and not take drugs then either (but they carried a number of people out of there on stretchers - how fun). </p>
<p>And for those who are looking for the thrill, I wonder if legalizing pot will just push them to what they perceive as more thrilling options such as the one in this event?</p>
<p>It’s interesting how the idea of not taking drugs is so readily discounted by people as an option. I don’t think that’s a healthy attitude.</p>
<p>From my perspective, there isn’t any approach that works to stopping kids from taking drugs and having the potential consequences. We as a society are kidding ourselves to think otherwise.</p>
It probably will but I feel it would a)be a small minority and b) not really due to the legalization of marijuana. The people who would use marijuana as a gate way drug would smoke it, whether it’s legal or not, and use the harder drug, whether it’s legal or not.</p>
<p>^^ That’s why I clicked on the thread initially - that’s what I thought it was going to be about (not that there’s anything wrong with this thread being started).</p>
<p>In discussions like this, I like to quote the great Texan philosopher Ron White who wisely and accurately proclaims…“You can’t fix stupid”.</p>
<p>No matter how much education you provide, no matter whether substances are legal or illegal, no matter how many contemporaries die or have their lives ruined by the same stupidity…it will always exist. </p>
<p>It’s not just a function of the current generation. It’s been the same for as long as mankind has been around. The only difference now is that the list of potential “stupidities” is longer than ever and many of them are more potent and lethal than they were in past decades.</p>
now last weekend at a music festival, one man is dead and others remain hospitalized after taking “molly”.</p>