Nah I doubt this was any sort of conspiracy theory sort of deal. I know it often seems like I’m jumping in the conspiracy stuff,but I just don’t like them to find the easy answer and stop looking.
Post#79, It should have been collapsed not Coles. Autocorrect be dammed!
There is a difference between bad (standard) reporting and a conspiracy theory. We aren’t part of the family, and really have no right to know the details of his death, but the reporting that he fell and hit his head and that is that isn’t very satisfying. Especially for those of us of the engineering persuasion, who want to get to the details that lead to the root cause analysis before we believe the reports. No one who has ever been part of a heavily reported event believes the details of most mainstream reporting.
And there’s the “how does this affect me” angle. Could I fall in an otherwise empty exercise room and die, or can I convince myself that he had some condition I don’t have, so it couldn’t happen to me?
Post #82, to tell you the truth, it’s none of my beewax as in business to know.
“There is a difference between bad (standard) reporting and a conspiracy theory. We aren’t part of the family, and really have no right to know the details of his death, but the reporting that he fell and hit his head and that is that isn’t very satisfying. Especially for those of us of the engineering persuasion, who want to get to the details that lead to the root cause analysis before we believe the reports. No one who has ever been part of a heavily reported event believes the details of most mainstream reporting.”
Yes!! Exactly!
You engineers tend to overthink this. Root cause analysis for what? Somebody fell and hit his head and died. No more than the editor for Qinton Tarantino(sp?) film went out for a walk in the National Forest and died a few years ago. Heat exhaustion, stroke? Nobody really cares. The news just reported that that person died.
Ha, the engineer types overthink everything. I don’t have a liberal arts bone in my body. Everything needs to verified by facts and analysis. And then I still don’t trust the conclusion. Especially as MomofJandL says, " No one who has ever been part of a heavily reported event believes the details of most mainstream reporting." So true! They make a conclusion seem like it’s certain, just because they have a little bit of information, and they are often completely wrong. Or they get something wrong that most people would consider to be minor, and we’re horrified by what we consider to be grievous errors. So maybe some people might consider that anal, but …that’s why you want engineers building bridges and doing things where getting it absolutely right, and correct details matter. So there! 
As the doctors say, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
But it doesn’t need to be verified for YOU, as you are not a member of the Goldberg/Sandberg families.
I do Pilates and some advanced moves on some equipment are such that if I fell, I really could crack my skull on a wood floor. I’ve fallen off treadmills - never any damage beyond my ego - but it’s amazingly easy to imagine hitting your head the wrong way and being severely injured. I think all this speculation is kind of distasteful.
"Especially for those of us of the engineering persuasion, who want to get to the details that lead to the root cause analysis before we believe the reports. "
He fell and hit his head sure makes a heck of a lot more sense and has more face validity than being attacked by an assailant at a ritzy hotel gym. He wasn’t a public figure and it’s not like joggers at hotel gyms are carrying wads of hundred dollar bills on them. Let’s also have some common sense.
“But it doesn’t need to be verified for YOU, as you are not a member of the Goldberg/Sandberg families.”
It matters to me, as far as believing things, that they are verified. And I have said that they need to ascertain if it is a genetic issue, for his children.
Garland, I agree with that sentiment here (given that there is no reason for a casual reader to question what has been reported), but as a patient with a very rare and serious chronic illness, I cannot tell you how much I hate that phrase, and how many times I heard it before I was able to get an accurate diagnosis. Grrrr…
As the doctor who finally figured out my condition said, “Sometimes it is a zebra and the stripes should have made it obvious to anyone who was willing to look.”
“He fell and hit his head sure makes a heck of a lot more sense and has more face validity than being attacked by an assailant at a ritzy hotel gym. He wasn’t a public figure and it’s not like joggers at hotel gyms are carrying wads of hundred dollar bills on them. Let’s also have some common sense.”
Ah, I guess you haven’t read the more recent reports that the autopsy said that this tragedy could have likely been from a heart arrhythmia? Still going with the, “hitting his head makes sense and that’s the first thing that was reported, so it must be true,” theory?
Notelling–I do understand that.
Just a thought : if someone becomes unconscious first then falls, the injuries will be different from someone who loses balance and falls while conscious. If you still have control of your limbs you will instinctively flail to try to break your fall.
^^Wouldn’t you think so? Someone could have had an aneurysm, heart attack, stroke, so many things that could cause someone to fall. The head injury could be purely a byproduct of this.
“It matters to me, as far as believing things, that they are verified. And I have said that they need to ascertain if it is a genetic issue, for his children”
Well, as you are not family, I doubt that you will ever learn the details of the autopsy report nor whether their children have any related health issues.
I could ask about both, as a good client is a close friend of Sheryl’s. She received the email message from Dave’s brother the night Dave died. But I wont, because it is NONE of my business.
Nor is it any of yours.
So why dont you just let the matter die, and quit obsessing about the death of what was, to you, a perfect stranger.
I believe the thought is still that he died of blunt force trauma, probably due to falling and suffering the fatal head injury because a heart arrhythmia caused him to either lose consciousness or become dizzy. I don’t see how that really changes anything significantly other than to suggest that perhaps he didn’t fall because of distraction or clumsiness.
“But I wont, because it is NONE of my business.Nor is it any of yours.So why dont you just let the matter die, and quit obsessing about the death of what was, to you, a perfect stranger.”
Uh…okay. You seem very offended by discussion of the death of a perfect stranger, in a thread about the death of a perfect stranger. I don’t think there is a disrespectful post in this thread, except for one suggesting that since he wasn’t known outside of Silicon Valley, that he didn’t warrant any discussion. However, since you are so offended by any discussion of the manner of his death, in deference to you, I will stop discussing it.
Folks, set your overwhelming personal curiosity aside and go call that friend who suffered a loss (even if it was a while ago,) or who endures illness.
When a celebrity loses a loved one, we can sympathize. Now what about the people in your own orbit? Don’t forget what they go through. As the letter shows, even after much time has passed.
If Sandberg has concerns, she has the resources to hire a private ME.