What’s a ME?
Medical examiner, I assume.
Whether he fell from a misstep / clumsiness and hit his head hard, or whether he had a heart arrhythmia / similar issue that caused him to fall / hit his head hard … I really don’t see why that needs to be released to the public. Indeed, the only reason that the gym was revealed to the public is that so many people were speculating suicide and therefore the schadenfreude of “you can’t have it all, too much pressure, she can’t lean in any more.” Vultures.
Was he on blood thinners (i.e., had it been previously diagnosed)? Because if he was, and he fell and hit his head, a brain bleed most certainly could have killed him. All of the reports state that there was a great deal of blood. So fatal heart attack as the sole reason he died - not clear at all.
Even if he wasn’t on blood thinners and merely tripped out of clumsiness or a misstep - a hard fall could have killed him.
There’s this real desperation that it had to be something other than a misstep that could happen to any of us. It must make us feel better to say “oh, that couldn’t happen to me.” Guess what, people? It could. You could die from a misstep on a treadmill where you hit your head on something hard. Deal with it.
My husband lost balance and fell backward, his head hit a rail and blood spurted out. Luckily I was nearby, used my hands to stop bleeding. I thought for a moment something serious had happened. We went to the emergency room and waited 7 hours and almost walked out without stitches(that’s another story) but nothing damaged. I think he has a thick skull with lots of hair . I often joke that he has nine lives(like a cat) but used 3 already.
Speaking as someone who has had someone die of coronary artery disease in their lap and fall like dead weight on top of them, if I hadn’t been there to break his fall, he would have been a very bloody mess on the sidewalk, as he was not able to reflexively put his arms out to break his fall… So as horribly sad as this situation is for Goldberg and his family, I do confess to wanting to know details if it is appropriate to hear on a public figure. Additional information can be reassuring, and knowledge is power, and helps to think about safety. I was out of town for the past few days and there was a staff person in the hotel gym the whole time.
Why do you feel it’s your place to tell people what they should or should not care about or post about? Unless it’s against TOS, people here are free to “obsess” about whatever they please.
How awful, @jym626.
Thanks, Nrdsb4. It was horrible. He was 34 years old. Left a wife and 2 young children. Tried CPR- (I was very rusty) screamed for a medic (it was a 10K race). People came running and those around tried to autottransfuse (tilt him with his head down to get blood flowing). No luck. But If I hadnt been in his path he would have done a faceplant onto the sidewalk and people might have thought the injuries he sustained when he fell and (likely) bled were the cause of his death. It would not have been pretty. As it was he had just a very small scrape on his forehead and knee since I broke his fall.
Its also not against TOS for me to express my thoughts or opinion about what others have said about
this tragedy . That said, I’m done with this thread.
That’s not what you were doing. You were basically telling people to stop posting.
My heart goes out to the family, and I believe they are entitled to handle the flow of information as they wish. That being said, I do confess to being a bit befuddled about the decision to withhold the cause of death right after the accident, not because I feel I have a right to know or because it suggests that something is being hidden, but because it is the kind of information that is normally released. I understand that people have differing sensitivities to privacy and that not releasing cause of death is on the extreme end of a NORMAL privacy continuum. But, at the risk of being insensitive, there is something confusing about this extreme desire for privacy coming from one of the top execs of a company that has caused or contributed to a major shift in the very notion of privacy in our current age. Facebook’s position has, in effect, been that privacy as a concept is some arcane value from a past age.
I am not criticizing Sandberg’s actions in connection with her husband’s death at all. I’m more trying to wrap my head around how this fits in with Facebook’s post-privacy stance.
But did they really know the exact cause of death “right after” the accident? Maybe they were waiting for confirmation.
I think it’s too early too.
Perhaps, but a person less concerned with personal privacy might say that he died after an accident on a treadmill while on vacation in Mexico. Autopsy results are pending. Again, I am NOT criticizing Sandberg. I’m not, however, a fan of Facebook and have never joined it because of my own arcane notions of privacy. Enthusiasm for Facebook correlates in my mind to more openness about details that some would prefer to keep private. I’m interested in this (potential) disconnect in this particular situation. I can think of lots of reasons why people would want to keep the details private; I just find it interesting that this particular person would want to do so.
I guess another way to say what I am saying is that it may be a positive sign that Sandberg is concerned with her personal privacy in this situation. She’s an incredibly powerful person who has a direct influence on the shape of our lives, for better or worse. That someone in that position has an understanding of the need for privacy at a time like this is a reassuring sign that she, at some level, shares some of my basic values on privacy issues. That’s a positive thing.
A little OT, but:
I have a Facebook page, but I almost NEVER post on it. I just got it to follow my Ds. Last night I logged on to look at weather details for our lake community (a local real estate company always posts relevant community news on their facebook page). I got a text on my cell phone from facebook saying that I had logged on from a “new device,” It’s NOT a new device, it does this every time I log in, even though I always check the option to remember that device and browser, grrr.
Anyway, last night I texted DH, who was upstairs, “You want to watch Outlander now or watch it another time?”
Almost immediately I got an email which was titled “Your sister commented on your new Facebook status.” WTH? Her email said, “What is this nonsense you are posting on your Facebook page?”
I was MORTIFIED. I had accidentally texted DH not to his text number, but as a reply to the text Facebook had sent me about logging in from another device and it posted my text as a STATUS UPDATE for all my “friends” to see!!!
I deleted it immediately, thanked my lucky stars it wasn’t anything really personal, and vowed never to log into my page again. GOOD GRIEF.
I just wish that this death brought more sensitivity to those who face loss, a little menschlikeit.
I can understand them waiting until all test results are back, to finalize any reports. After that, those the info belongs to may chose to make it public or not. I know lots of threads morph. Just a surprise on this one.
I only got the Facebook account and to looked at the alumni group from high school and college. No big deal. I even listed the fake birthday so nobody could track me. Openness on Facebook, not for me.