Debate: Offensive Spanish Team Advertisement Picture

<p>[Spanish</a> basketball team poses for offensive picture - Fourth-Place Medal - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports](<a href=“Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games - Yahoo Sports”>Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games - Yahoo Sports)</p>

<p>The topic has been picking up steam since yesterday.</p>

<li><p>What is your position on whether the picture was racist or not?</p></li>
<li><p>Are the Chinese overeacting, is there a misunderstanding, do you think it was a joke, do you think if offended anyone (or you)?</p></li>
<li><p>Should an apology be owed, and what sanctions should be administered?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Provide support for your statement(s).</p>

<ol>
<li>I don’t care!</li>
<li>Yes!</li>
<li>No</li>
</ol>

<p>Support: [YouTube</a> - Asian Eyes](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLDScOLCcOo]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLDScOLCcOo)</p>

<p>Let’s face it. If it was Team USA in the same situation, everyone in the world would be crying out for some sort of punishment for its players. I don’t know if the NBA has jurisdiction over the behavior of players at international events, but I’d love to see them dishing out some sort of fine and/or suspension for the NBA players on the Spanish team, Calderon and Gasol.</p>

<p><em>to above</em>: The NBA has jurisdiction over its players in any area, basketball related or not.</p>

<p>As for the pic. People shouldn’t take themselves so seriously. Gotta learn to laugh. If they were offended they should’ve used it to fuel their fire and actually get a win.</p>

<p>Goal of image: Tons of publicity … Check!</p>

<ol>
<li>Racist. </li>
<li>Understanding. Yes, offensive, inappropriate and as for events celebrating international correspondence and games, it’s ridiculous to have something so inconsiderate. </li>
<li>An apology, yes. Actions? Not sure. Reminds me of Shaq’s comments about Yao when Yao first came out. It’s irritating.</li>
</ol>

<p>I’m sick of all this Western propaganda. Every time I log on to Yahoo (yay) news there’s some trivial story belittling China. (firecrackers are fake, chinese gymnasts too young…etc)</p>

<p>It sells! Nothing like Western vs Eastern hegemony – freedom/democracy/etc. versus Red China… especially as it booms as an economic power, etc.</p>

<p>I’m also sick of all that ■■■■■■■■ “Free Tibet” BS.
90% of those “Pro-Tibet” protestors are ignorant Westerners who haven’t studied any Chinese history at all. Please mind your own business…</p>

<p>Here’s my view:</p>

<p>The advertisement picture is definitely discrimination. This is speaking on behalf of Chinese community, who have seen these gestures at least once in their lives. I don’t think people would understand what the message is unless they are part of the minority.</p>

<p>Posing slanted/slit eyes gestures is not an “affectionate gesture”, it is a gesture used to bully Asian people around (especially as a youth); you can ask and confirm that through experience. There are many things that the advertisement could have capture instead, to show the “love and warm gesture” towards the Chinese during the Olympics. A neutral examples was usage of the dragon in the background.</p>

<p>“We did it because we thought it was going to be something nice, something with no problem,” quotes Jose Calderon (Toronto Raptors). I have to say Jose Calderon is an idiot for that- - would he walk down Toronto and perform his warm gesture to every Chinese he saw? He would get popped … total fallacy.</p>

<p>His second quote with bad reasoning:
“From here I would like to declare that we have a huge respect for the East and their people, some of my best friends in Toronto are from China and one of our Spanish National Team sponsors is the Chinese brand Li Ning.”</p>

<p>The first half of the sentence ties back into 2 paragraphs above. Best friends in Toronto don’t mean anything - - the picture is not offensive to just your Chinese friends, it is offensive to the whole Chinese population. You can attest that from the boos during the Spain-China basketball game. The reference to Li Ning is totally a business related action. Li Ning’s representative actually thought the picture was funny, that it showed the Spainards had a sense of humor. I think that’s total B.S. Business is a mindset … if the Li Ning rep declared what happened as racist, he would take a hit for their contract with the team. The answer was obvious there.</p>

<p>There were 2 major problems in this case. The advertisement sponsor (Seur) showed immaturity for designing this pose. The players also showed a lack of judgment for following what the sponsor’s orders and what other players were doing.</p>

<p>*Paul Gasol felt it was childish but posed for the ad anyway.</p>

<p>“Some of us didn’t feel comfortable doing it just because to me it was a little clownish for our part to be doing that,” Gasol said. “But the sponsors insisted and insisted. I think it is just a bad idea I guess to do that, but it was never intended to be offensive or racist against anybody.”
*</p>

<p>If you thought the gesture was a joke, say this occured in another context, when say the Olympics were in an African nation. What if the team took a picture pull your lips out and make an say your supporting the African nation? What would happen? What if this were in Mexico, and the players held orange boxes? It’s all about the context. All of these are offensive and should not be tolerated.</p>

<p>In conclusion, I feel that the picture was quite disrespectful towards the Chinese. Apologies have been made by the figures involved, but I feel that some figures (like Jose Calderon) seemed to have said them reluctantly … as if his back was against the wall and he had to do it. He still thought nothing was wrong …</p>

<p>I don’t think there should be any serious legal actions, possibly impose a fine, and both sides drop the issue (but remember the ettiqute of respect). Sad to say Spain has risked upsetting their Olympic hosts by posing for a pre-Games advertisement making slit-eyed gestures.</p>

<p>I have to admit, I didn’t even look at the photo until now. And I do have to say that the first thing I feel isn’t even offense, it’s bewilderment that somebody actually was this stupid to green-light this. Then I just felt sad for the people involved. Anyway…</p>

<p>[Spain:</a> Spanish Tennis Team Also Strikes “Chinky-Eyed Chinaman” Pose!](<a href=“http://gawker.com/5037034/spanish-tennis-team-also-strikes-chinky+eyed-chinaman-pose]Spain:”>http://gawker.com/5037034/spanish-tennis-team-also-strikes-chinky+eyed-chinaman-pose)</p>

<p><em>shrugs</em> What does this say about this pose? To me this kinda makes me feel like it’s “easier” to make fun of Asians because they’re generally held as too submissive to speak up about it.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Not rascist, just kind of funny.</p></li>
<li><p>Yes, they were overreacting; yes, it was just a joke.</p></li>
<li><p>An apology is owed to those who take offense…</p></li>
</ol>

<ol>
<li><p>It’s not even funny. The only thing left to conclude is that the gesture was a racial slur. </p></li>
<li><p>No. And yes it was quite offensive. </p></li>
<li><p>Well, it would be smart for an apology to be issued.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>OK, in the times that someone has inadvertently said or did something racist, and I corrected them, they always apologized profusely and genuinely, saying they had no idea it was racist, or that they didn’t know I was of Asian descent. (The latter had to do with something like, they were gonna color something with all yellows. Not offensive at all if I had been some other race. Kinda hard to explain.) So yeah, apologies weren’t hard to get if they weren’t trying to be malicious in the first place.</p>

<p>So I don’t see why the people behind the photograph in question can’t just apologize gracefully. Even if they didn’t think they were in the wrong, is it really that hard to issue a genuine, “Sorry, we didn’t mean anything but now we know better” apology without resorting to a “it’s not OUR fault if you’re offended” attitude?</p>