<p>“I can’t recall who brought up the Bravo show Southern Charm, but that show makes me cringe. It does show a nice mix of the classes present in Charleston.”</p>
<p>@Niquii77 Haha, yes, it is most certainly cringe-worthy. However, I see so much of the characters, Shep and Cameron in particular, in many acquaintances and friends. Granted we don’t drink as much, and most are much more humble about their social status and wealth, but the lifestyle they live, the clothes they wear, and the laidback attitudes they have are so familiar down here. Perhaps disturbingly so. I’ve only watched a few episodes myself, that’s quite enough for me. Watching rampant materialism and self-absorbed actors is not really the way I want to spend my precious free time. </p>
<p>I’ve watched the entire season so far (I’m a sucker for reality TV). It makes me cringe, but it is so amusing at the same time. One positive from this show is that it makes you feel like a better person by the end! ;)</p>
<p>That’s pretty awesome that the show was able to capture those elements that are present in you and your friends life. Looks like reality TV isn’t that fake. Don’t know if I could ever live in the South. I’m too attached to the ocean and beaches. </p>
<p>^Good plan, Vladenschlutte. Surely you are old enough to know that you won’t get anywhere dissing an entire section of the country based on stereotypes.</p>
<p>Regarding the south, love the food and some of the manners part. </p>
<p>However, it seems so many hardcore southerners I’ve come across in the south feel the need to refight the Civil War or otherwise make snide comments about us northerners. Much more than most northerners who seem so apathetic about the Civil War several fellow visitors to Gettysburg, including many fellow northerners expressed dismay about this state of affairs a few years ago. </p>
<p>While I was restrained for the sake of my southern-based relatives’ sake, I’ll admit the temptation to start singing “Jeff in Petticoats”* or “Marching Through Georgia” was strong whenever such snide comments about northerners crop up from their neighbors pining for the “Lost Cause”. </p>
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<p>What part of the south did you visit @cobrat? I’ve yet to meet anyone who sniffs at northerners. No one talks about the Civil War here, it wasn’t exactly a proud moment in our history. Besides, many of us came from the north, or have northern relatives…myself included. That said the south has its problems, but I’ve grown to love the culture, manners, and people here. Especially for the college female, southern gentlemen are much appreciated.</p>
<p>BTW: If your post was thick with sarcasm, excuse my inability to detect it.</p>
<p>cobrat- My experience having been born in the South, raised in the north and having spent the last 35 years back in the South (well, 28 years in Texas and THEN the real South), is not what you are reporting. There are definitely areas of very narrow-thinking, but that is true in the north as well. There are negative comments about the South from northerners with at least the same frequency as the other way around.</p>
I’m surprised they cared. The only person I know who regular wears cowboy boots around here is a 75 year old French man. And very cute he looks in them too!</p>
<p>My son was leery of schools that seemed “too preppy” when he was applying - at the time he had shoulder length hair. He’s now cut it off and owns a couple of suits. He frequently wears button down shirts (a habit he picked up in Jordan), but still wears plenty of t-shirts. Pants are jeans or khakis. He’s got at least one extra jacket from Goodwill and he wears a black leather bomber jacket instead of Northface like everyone else.</p>
<p>When I spent several months traveling through the south with a friend after I graduated from college - I’d say the main thing I noticed was that they were determined to smother us Yankees with southern hospitality. It was great!</p>
<p>All I know is classics (as in clothes) and good manners never go out of style and last for ever or at least through numerous trends. Not sure it’s so much a northern or southern thing, just the way you were raised. The problem isi that the kids raid your closets all the time. Fortunately for me the boys raid their dad’s closets.</p>
<p>Heard there was southern bashing going on in this thread. As a transplanted northerner who has lived in the south now for more than half my life, I can say that people are not reliving the civil war or making snide comments to former northerners, calling them carpetbaggers or telling them to go home. Oh wait, I did see one facebook post a year or so ago from a native who was offended that someone apparently said that southerners didn’t have enough cultural/arts resources. She was annoyed and made a crack. That was all I have seen /heard. Anyone claiming to be getting snide comments about northerners or the War between the states is living in a time warp. Sure there are areas that remind one of “Deliverance” and the redneck reality tv shows don’t help matters, but there are ignorant, bigoted, backwoods people everywhere. Look at the Kansas City Jewish Community Center/ Senior Citizens home shooting. Another ignorant hate crime. There are idiots everywhere. </p>
<p>The areas where what I described was prevalent were mainly rural areas of Mississippi which are where most of my southern relatives are based. There seemed to be a large contingent of “lost cause” piners among their neighbors. While they weren’t the majority, they were extremely vocal and had critical mass numbers. </p>
<p>I’ve also observed some of this with a few neighbors in visits to relatives in rural parts of Northern Florida and friends in rural parts of Northern Virginia. However, in those areas, they were in a distinct minority and widely dismissed as silly cranks by most of the neighborhood in those areas. </p>
<p>I should also mention this tends to come about after they hear someone’s from a northern state according to the relatives and friends. </p>
<p>When I mention this on a level-headed well-moderated forum with a large amount of native southerners, they admitted that Lost Cause piners can get obnoxious with northerners. </p>
<p>One moderator even mentioned he had to ban a number in the past with Southern IP addresses on a thread discussing Civil War history because the Lost Cause piners were becoming so obnoxious and abusive to other forum members and eventually factored into strict bans on discussions of the Civil War or other topics which may be politically charged. </p>
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<p>And the food, don’t forget the fine food! :)</p>
<p>@cobrat Hmmm, well I’ve conversed with a lot of very, very southern people from rural missisippi, alabama, tennessee, etc. and I’ve still yet to hear any reference to the Civil war. Keep in mind these people are, uhm, very “red in the neck” if you catch my drift. I think the worst I’ve seen is the confederate flag in a walmart way out in the middle of nowhere in rural Louisiana. I guess we just haven’t met the same “patch” of southerners yet.</p>