Democrat Contretemps

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<a href=“http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/politics/bal-te.obama02mar02,0,3453027.story?coll=bal-home-headlines[/url]”>http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/politics/bal-te.obama02mar02,0,3453027.story?coll=bal-home-headlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>…which–political–way will this cut?</p>

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<p>Isn’t America wonderful?</p>

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<p>Mini is certainly not in the HRH Hillary camp. :)</p>

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<p>Excuse me, but what percentage of American- or Caribbean-born people of (rarely exclusively) African descent lack a slaveholder or five in their family trees? This is among the most dog-bites-man non-news stories ever.</p>

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<p>I disagee, sir.</p>

<p>If what you mean to say is that this is a story which, in itself, has no substance, I agree.</p>

<p>As for political substance. Watch it grow.</p>

<p>B. H. Obama’s roots in the Black American community are of particular if boorish interest to many leaders in the Black American community (dog-bites man) and this is already being <em>played</em> by the political camps…on the Democrat side.</p>

<p>It is a political story to be sure.</p>

<p>Hillary will be calling soon…</p>

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<p>um…so?</p>

<p>Conseratives don’t know what to make of Obama and seem utterly fascinated with his racial background.</p>

<p>What…are the Swiftboaters on sabattical?</p>

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<p>here is how I look at it</p>

<p>it is what you do NOW that matters, </p>

<p>for instance Strom Thormand’s family owned slaves and his attitudes aren’t that far removed from his past, while Obama’s attitude is very far removed from his families past</p>

<p>If Thormand had not done everything he could to fight against civil rights, than it matters not what his ancestors did with regards to a person today, but as much is the same, well</p>

<p>As for Obama, I can bet you many families these days had ancestors who owned slaves, sad to say, but I judge a person on how they live today and what they have done in their lifetimes</p>

<p>The people making hay of Obama’s mixed background are not who DPX wants it to be…though she herself seems to find it so important</p>

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<p>I think the key point is not really how far removed Obama is from his slave-owning ancestors, but also how far removed his mother was, since she fell in love with a black man and had the courage to marry him, back when it was not even as accepted as it may be today.</p>

<p>And speaking as someone who studies genealogy, believe me when I say there are very few people in this country who want to be tagged to the beliefs of their ggggggrandparents.</p>

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<p>It’s a slow day for Islamo-Atheists. ;)</p>

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<p>The B.Sun story duly mentioned that two other presidential hopefuls, John McCain, and John Edwards, are also descended from slave owners. I can’t imagine that any Democratic campaigners will see any political capital in this whatsoever. It’s a minor footnote at best. Now, I can see the Rush fans and right-wing bloggers obsessing over it in an attempt to create something out of nothing. That, apparently, has already started.</p>

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<p>The Balitmore Sun maybe be a bit shaby–as liberal papers go–but it has not yet become a <em>blog</em>.</p>

<p>This issue is being played out not amongst conservatives, but amonst the left/leaders–largely African America–in the mainstream media.</p>

<p>Here is a recent example on the topic from that other right wing blog, The Washington Post:</p>

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<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/15/AR2007021501270.html[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/15/AR2007021501270.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Did you think I was referring to the Baltimore Sun as a blog? </p>

<p>Did you forget the other link you posted?</p>

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<p>Madam,</p>

<p>this is the table talk of the left, not the right.
It’s all over the left. Now, even a few beloved blogs have noticed. But in this case it is merely an echo of the liberal echo-chamber where in they let the public over hear. That is why I posted one of the main source from the left-leaning (falling all over itself-stumbling drunk on…talk about leaning) MSM.</p>

<p>You do, no doubt, have access to google…it is at your fingertips.</p>

<p>HRH has people on the case even as we speak.</p>

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<p>please share with us the talk shows you are referring to…I listen everyday to on on NPR and they are curious about this so-called debate about Obama being black enough that seems to be being spread by certain people</p>

<p>IF Its all over the left, in want context, madame, because I listen to the radio and talk shows all the time and I hear nothing like what you claim</p>

<p>you are reporting something I don’t think you have even heard yourself</p>

<p>What I do hear is right wing claiming it is an issue among black people…hmmmmmm</p>

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<p>do you listen to any african american shows?</p>

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<p>Yes…as you mention it, I do.</p>

<p>Far more than conservative talk radio, which I can not abide.</p>

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<p>so, tell me what show you have heard yourself that says Obama isn’t black enough…and by whom…</p>

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<p>Because nothing’s too nasty to say about Hillary, even if it’s not true.</p>

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<p>Your inquisition is a bit much.</p>

<p>I do not listen to am radio. If I listen to talk radio at all it is always Public radio which is, as you know, dominated by liberal views and hosts. Tavis SMiley, for one.</p>

<p>But this has been covered more than enough by the MSM, even for those who do not own radios.</p>

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<p>Conyat,</p>

<p>Then you know this is not true? …let’s compare inside people. </p>

<p>You go first.</p>