Democrats Will NOT Take Congress!

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<p>When someone pointed out to George Will that the Republicans have the largest war chest on “This Week” a week ago, he replied something along the lines of the following: “Yes, and the Yankees have the largest payroll in baseball, but they’ve gone home now.”</p>

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<p>Again…so many pesky discrepancies in Ohio…Mr. Blackwell…more…or just coincidences, like the fact the exit polls have never in history been off by more than three tenths of one percent…</p>

<p>Just odd. Very peculiar.</p>

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<p>I have some kind of block against believing that anything was amiss in Ohio in 2004. The numbers are troubling, and the whole electronic voting machine problem is really upsetting if you look at it carefully. If you’re talking about Ohio 2004, it’s a highly partisan issue, but in reality it’s not a partisan issue at all. Stuff can happen at the ward level at the behest of corrupt people of any stripe, and stuff can happen by mistake or by incompetence (neither of which are unknown at street level in the political world).</p>

<p>In any event, I think the Democrats will be better off in 2006 and 2008 for not having won the Presidency in 2004. The last couple years would have been a nightmare with Kerry in the White House and the GOP in control of Congress. I don’t think Kerry would have solved the Iraq conundrum, and he would have been completely hamstrung by Congress had he tried.</p>

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<p>Lou Dobbs on CNN this evening was all about concerns with the election process. There is too much evidence to ignore. This should be of major concern to all Americans regardless of your political leanings.</p>

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<p>Lou Dobbs on CNN this evening was all about concerns with the election process. There is too much evidence to ignore. This should be of major concern to all Americans regardless of your political leanings.</p>

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<p>I think that requiring voters to show a photo ID would go a long way to restoring confidence in the electoral process.</p>

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<p>so would not letting illegals vote, although on the other hand thats kinda racist thing for me to say</p>

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<p>Some of the things that happened in Ohio to supress the vote were Kafka-esque. Blackwell’s office was giving out voter registration forms…then refusing to accept those same forms on the grounds that the card stock wasn’t thick enough.</p>

<p>Kafka-esque was never supposed to describe American governance.</p>

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<p>I have to say I also really never understood why there were such long lines in Ohio - esp. in Democratic districts. I’ve never waited more than five minutes in New York, California or Massachusetts.</p>

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<p>The long lines were all the dead folks from Chicago who’d already voted a dozen times in IL. They traveled to OH to help.</p>

<p>Why is it when the Democrats lose they suspect cheating? When Republicans lose, they just figure the other side had a better organization, more resonant message, fewer errors and so on.</p>

<p>Maybe the Democrats lost simply because more voters did not agree with them than those who did.</p>

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<p>Hey P2N, is that really another one of those “People who agree with me are nice, logical and noble and those other guys are all a bunch of poo-poo heads” posts, or are you just joshin’? <a href=“http://www.slate.com/id/91350/[/url]”>http://www.slate.com/id/91350/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Not poo-poo heads, but <em>paranoids</em>–oh, yeah.</p>

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<p>“Why is it when the Democrats lose they suspect cheating?” </p>

<p>How is it not cheating for a Secretary of State to reject voter registrations because the paper wasn’t thick enough…when his own office gave them the paper and told them to use it?</p>

<p>Parent2noles, the irregularities in Ohio are well documented. Some of Blackwell’s tactics–such as not allowing soldiers home on leave from Iraq who never received their absentee ballots to vote–were ruled illegal in federal court…but late on election day, too late to undo the damage.</p>

<p>Even the Republicans on the election committee were shocked at some of the things Blackwell did to surpress the Democrat vote. Polling places were changed in the urban districts shortly before the election and Blackwell’s office’s OWN website pointed voters to incorrect districts. When they got there, they were assured they could vote provisionally–then their provisional ballots were not counted because they were in the “wrong” precinct. Blackwell was scolded even by Republicans, outraged at his gamesmanship with the laws THEY passed.</p>

<p>BTW, p2n, have you ever retracted your statement that in contrast to Democrats, “Republicans at least will fight when necessary”? It’s horribly disrespectful to our soldiers who belong to other parties. Their sacrifice does not become meaningless just because they exercise their right to vote or run for office against your party.</p>

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Nonsense. Make your case.</p>

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<p>"DeForest Soaries, the GOP chairman of the Election Assistance Commission – the federal agency set up to implement the Help America Vote Act – upbraided Blackwell, saying that the commission disagreed with his decision to deny ballots to voters who showed up at the wrong precinct. ‘‘The purpose of provisional ballots is to not turn anyone away from the polls,’’ Soaries explained. ‘‘We want as many votes to count as possible.’’</p>

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<p>I had no idea this information was so arcane. My apologies. But it’s true. Some honorable people put partisanship aside to condemn Blackwell for what he did. I don’t know why that would be nonsense.</p>

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<p>Ok, apology accepted. Lots of Republicans don’t rely on teenage-wannabe magazines for political information. Have you checked “Teen Beat” lately? How about “Sixteen”? Don’t forget “Marie Claire”.</p>

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<p>So you’re denying that DeForest Soaries made that statement, simply because it appeared in Rolling Stone?</p>

<p>Funny, he isn’t denying it.</p>

<p>Why is it so hard for you to believe that some Americans would put fairness in elections over party loyalty?</p>

<p>BTW, I don’t think the party that lionizes Anne Coulter should scoff at Rolling Stone.</p>

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<p>I simply won’t accept the word of Bobby Kennedy Jr. as quoted in “Rolling Stone” unless it’s cross-referenced in a publication as worthy as “Seventeen” or “Tiger Beat”. We have to have standards, teenybopper.</p>

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<p>Driver, how about these?</p>

<p>Harper’s
<a href=“http://www.harpers.org/ExcerptNoneDare.html[/url]”>Page not found | Harper's Magazine;

<p>Boston Globe
<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/06/26/a_call_to_investigate_the_2004_election/[/url]”>http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/06/26/a_call_to_investigate_the_2004_election/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Wikipedia
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf[/url]”>http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It’s been reported by a number of sources, including the Columbus Dispatch.</p>

<p>Darrell Rowland and Lee Leonard, Federal Agency Distances Itself from Ohio Official; Blackwell Says Their Provisional-Balloting Positions are the Same, Columbus Dispatch (Ohio), October 20, 2004.</p>

<p>And here’s a news release from Soaries’ own office:
<a href=“http://www.eac.gov/news_102004.asp[/url]”>http://www.eac.gov/news_102004.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>They had to send Blackwell a letter asking him to STOP misrepresenting their position.</p>

<p>I still don’t understand why it seems so farfetched to you that a Republican minister like Soaries would be against what Blackwell did…I know some Republicans put preservation of our republic over “winning”. Don’t you?</p>