<p>Ooh. Those are good ones, unsoc. Here’s one for you:
<a href=“http://www.vegasjourney.com/area_51_las_vegas_tour.htm[/url]”>http://www.vegasjourney.com/area_51_las_vegas_tour.htm</a></p>
<p>Nothing to see here.</p>
<p>conyat, in Las Vegas speak…I’m afraid “we’re throwing good money after bad”.</p>
<p>Yeah. Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh have become wealthy off of what we’re seeing here.</p>
<p>Everyone who is eligible to vote and wants to vote should have their vote count, period. Those are not eligible to vote should not, period. That there were violations of this on the Democratic side in the past does not justify Republican violations later.</p>
<p>We should not accept voting irregularites, ever. We really don’t even have a republic if we can’t trust the results of our elections.</p>
<p>Again, why is transparency in voting a partisan issue? Shouldn’t every American want to know that an election was fairly held, that every American who voted had his/her vote counted?</p>
<p>I have never understood why Republicans turn this type of conversation partisan. It isn’t partisan at all.</p>
<p>No, conyat. My comment still stands. </p>
<p>If soldiers want to be represented by anti-war Democrats, that’s their right. I’ll fight for their right to be led by anti-war Democrats. :)</p>
<p>Why is it when Democrats (Democrats = liberals, for purposes of this particular discussion; excluding Dixiecrats) are questioned about various whining and election sour-grapes remarks, it’s partisan? I’m not being partisan, I’m trying to help. It’s the ‘P2N’ 12-step plan to being a satisfied American. I want you folks to be happy - and wealthy. :)</p>
<p>Actually, I enjoy discussing things with y’all - for that matter.</p>
<p>P2N, do you believe in election transparency?</p>
<p>As I recall, William Grieder was a political correspondent for Rolling Stone for years. Wasn’t he respected as a professional journalist?</p>
<p>The Governor of Maryland running for re-election has urged the voters to go to the polls and cast absentee ballots. He apparently has no faith in the electronic Diebold voting system. BTW, he is a Republican.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,219539,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,219539,00.html</a></p>
<p>Rolling Stone has done (or tried to do) high-quality political journalism for 25 years. Driver was just being stupid about it.</p>
<p>Oh, give them a C+ for “trying,” but I’d call that grade inflation. I respect Bill Greider (“Secrets of the Temple” remains the best book on the Fed that I’m aware of)–hell, I respected Hunter Thompson. Still doesn’t absolve RS of the sin of publishing total crap masquerading as “political journalism”, as exemplified by the Bobby Kennedy Jr. piece cited above, and the recent cover story by a formerly respected Princeton historian that was discussed at length [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=178366&highlight=sean]here[/url”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=178366&highlight=sean]here[/url</a>].</p>
<p>Stupid? Moi? Better watch your mouth, boy.</p>
<p>For some time I have said that unless Rolling Stone makes Keith Richards editor in chief, I wasnt gonna read another pop-music review in that old-hippie rag (HIPPIES SMELL!).</p>
<p>Like most people, I was rather disheartened to learn that Rolling Stone refused to print Uncle Teds good-time proposals for Drunk Driving reform WHEN THE ISSUE WAS HOT; but I was heartened to learn that in the American spirit of printing all the news thats fit to print The Stone scoured American journalism, leaving no Stone unturned to find an unbiased journalist–goes by the name of Kennedy(a guy with no donkey in this fight unless you count his lecherous uncle)–to do an objective piece on the do-good Democrats being robbed in the Ohio elections by the bottom-feeding scum what calls themselves Republicans (puhleezRepublicans, sure and the Nazis were socialists [I know]) and whats more–and this is BIG–these same Stoners intend to run a no holes barred expose on Texas redistricting by some cutting edge journalist named Tom Delay hell tar-n-feather em. </p>
<p> Im sick of hearing conservatives say that Rolling Stone goes ase-first down the banister of liberal apologetics! </p>
<p> please just wait till they run that upcoming and unbiased piece on Texas redistricting by this Texan–goes by the name Thomas Delay: supposedly a guy that defines non-partisanship (like the Kennedy boys). Its gonna blow the doors off the whole sick-n-sorted issue. </p>
<p>Then well talk apologetics…bubba!</p>
<p>Driver: </p>
<p>(1) I thought the Greider book on the Fed was pretty awful (and it looks worse in retrospect, since the monetarist policies he was attacking at the time worked really, really well).</p>
<p>(2) Your “Tiger Beat” comments qualified as stupid, or at least disingenuous. They came across as standard “if you can’t deal with the message, ridicule the messenger” stuff. Sorry. </p>
<p>FountainSiren:</p>
<p>The Dartmouth Review has never engaged in celebrity journalism? And how do the Ohio shenanigans look less sleazy because partisans bring them to light?</p>
<p>“The Dartmouth Review has never engaged in celebrity journalism?”</p>
<p>Not that I am aware of. Of course, this is only my second year but I am unaware of any politicians or celebrities writing for the Review. Some famous writers, to be sure, but I am not aware of any celeb/politicians writing for the Review.</p>
<p>Quite a few Review writers have gone on to become celebrities…actually, an amazing number have gone on to fantastic writing/academic/political careers. Even better, there is quite a fraternity amongst them/us. I have had numerous encounters with people I would never have had access to otherwise. I spent a couple of hours last week interviewing presidential historian, Robert Dallek.</p>
<p>The list is far too long to mention—from William F Buckley to Mark Steyn to, my personal favorite, Jeff Hart (lunch today at 1:00).</p>
<p>Republican shenanigans never look sleazy…to other Republicans.</p>
<p>It’s rather de rigeur.</p>
<p>The only documented shenanigans in 2004 involved tire-slashing of Republican get-out-the-vote vehicles by Democrat operatives. You can read about it here:
<a href=“http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12498215/from/RSS/[/url]”>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12498215/from/RSS/</a></p>
<p>JHS:<br>
Greider’s policy conclusions drawn from his own research don’t detract from the very excellent compendium of factual material represented in “Secrets of the Temple.” If I were teaching a course on how the Fed works, it would be required reading. I don’t know of a better source–stupid me–but if you do, please enlighten. </p>
<p>I would put Greider’s book in the same category as that of another lefty-liberal whose intellect seems to get in the way of his analysis–E.J. Dionne, whose “Why Americans Hate Politics” is far and away the best history of American politics ca. 1960-1990, despite his predictably mewling final chapter.</p>
<p>I haven’t subscribed to Rolling Stone in at least 25 years, but if you know of examples of serious “high-quality political journalism” that I’ve missed since then, I’m always willing to have my eyes opened. “Tiger Beat” is at least as profound as RS, btw.</p>
<p>Driver, your cynicism and superiority complex aside, RS has some excellent articles, and is not just modern day Bobby Sherman, i.e. “Tiger Beat”.</p>
<p>Don’t be so afraid to get out of your box! I know new things are scary (after 25 years, things are really pretty much brand new), but you might really enjoy RS! Give it a try!</p>
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And what is Barack Obama if not just a modern day Bobby Sherman, i.e. “Tiger Beat”?</p>
<p>Yes, naif that I am, I really must get out of my box and read about rock stars in RS. Heh, heh, heh. I don’t blow it off entirely–please direct me to anything that you find interesting.</p>
<p>I’ve earned my amused cynicism, my superiority complex, and my arch tone over the course of many years involved in politics and rock music. 
Just think of me as a lady Jeff Baxter.</p>