<p>Now a “do over”. Good job guys.</p>
<p>[Dean</a> Urges Do-Over Voting in Fla., Mich.](<a href=“http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8V82ODG1&show_article=1]Dean”>http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8V82ODG1&show_article=1)</p>
<p>I’ve got no problem with a do-over even though it’s likely to hurt my candidate. The problem wasn’t the Dems - it was the party bosses in Florida and Michigan.</p>
<p>Even though I’m a republican I wish the dems get rid of the super delegate/proportion delegate process by the next election. Doesn’t seem fair when 1) “Elites” can decide who’s nominated and 2) you can win the popular vote of a state and not the most delegates. Just my 2 cents</p>
<p>Actually, it was the republican-dominated legislature in Florida that pushed for an early primary, over the objection of Democrats, knowing full well it would result in disqualification of the votes.</p>
<p>I’d also point out that the Republican winner-take-all primary system is far less “democratic”, especially in large states. And the Democratic super-delegates are not “elite” – they are the Democratic elected officials and party activists.</p>
<p>I believe they are sovereign states who voted to hold their elections as they saw fit. The Dems chose to ignore this fact at their obvious peril. Now they want the two cash strapped states to spend $25M or so on a do over?? Really now.
I believe Mich has a Dem governor.</p>
<p>I laugh that the Dems were complaining that appointed Supreme Court justices were going to decide the presidential election in 2000…now their appointed “super delegates” may decide their nominee. Dems getting their just desserts.</p>
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<p>What will the obama’ites say if they don’t win the popular vote but lead in delegates? These are the same people who cried foul after Gore won the popular vote…</p>
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<p>Actually it was the democratic state parties of Florida/Michigan who pushed for an early primary. The legislature had nothing to do with it. <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/us/politics/24florida.html?hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/us/politics/24florida.html?hp</a> . Despite what Keith O says not everything is a vast right wing conspiracy :rolleyes:</p>
<p>The Democrat convention is shaping up to be an ugly affair, and for the ugliest of reasons. I’ll be Tivo’ing this baby for sure!</p>
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<p>I’ll agree with you on that, but it doesn’t look good. Not when Dems are so worried about popular vote. I’ll be a good Repub and remind that the US election process is not a true democracy.</p>
<p>That’s a super-find Lax. Thanks. Hoisted by their own petard.</p>
<p>Wh ever wins the DEM nomination, I only hope Barack will let me in on how to invest in land deals, or HRC helps with dealing in cattle futures. HAHAHA!!!</p>
<p>2008 is a win-win for all, no matter if it’s McCain, Obama, Clinton.</p>
<p>John McCain is a wolf in sheep’s clothing as far as the far right “Republican Base” is concerned. He’ll be a one term President if elected and will govern that way. Look for the Neo-Con grip on the party to be loosened if the “maverick” gets in the White House. His problem now is that to get elected its not the “conservative base” he needs to support him, it’s moderate America. Reagan didn’t get elected because of his conservative base, but because moderate Democrats and Independents pulled the lever for him. Forget all that garbage being spewed by talk show hosts—the worse case scenario for the far right is for McCain to be elected. He might actually get my party back to it’s “roots” of less government, less taxes for ALL Americans (not just the wealthiest), and less intrusion into the private lives of all of us. I figure either McCain, Clinton, or Obama is a step up from where we are now.</p>
<p>The Iraq issue is mischaracterized by both the “left” and the “right”. Both seem to be reluctant to discuss the two primary points:
- Poor decision making and “smoke and mirrors” got us there.
- We broke it, now we own it.</p>
<p>This is the best presidential campaign that I can remember in my nearly 30 years of voting–finally the people are engaged and BOTH party’s are being scrutinized. It’s also the first time in a while that the power of the far right talk show radio/TV hosts has been usurped by the moderate Republicans who voted for McCain instead of some Neo-Con.</p>