Denied Stanford Applicant in Dire Need of Advice for Next Steps on his Journey of Life

@CaliCash , you have officially made this my favorite thread ever on CC. What a lovely, hilarious, awesome word. Long live sesquipedalianism! In fact, I am inspired to write a rather bad poem:

Sesquipedalianism is a word too seldom used.
One questions its veracity
yet, lexophiles would ne’er abuse
Such a valid gem of english.
A language, indeed most thorough,
In which one must spell things badly, such as tough,
And though, and borough.

To end my little ditty, I will use another word,
Antidisestablishmentarianism, which is really quite absurd.
Yet we love it nonetheless, because 'tis overlong,
And rhymes with nothing else. Let us use it in a song!

All hail mighty syllables,
Such as sesquipedalianism
And its friend listed above,
For without our words to lift us,
We’d have little enough to love!

Remember, you saw it here first. I probably need a semicolon in there somewhere.

@Lindagaf Epic! :))

In case this is all legit, Zig, I want to give you some feedback on how you can become a better writer. Below, I’ll copy your paragraphs and then a suggestion on how to write more effectively.


Salutations. I know none of you know me, but I have heard from these forums of your successes at receiving admissions into Stanford via freshman admission and transfer. I have set up this discussion to request your opinion(s) on some decisions I will need to make, now that I myself got rejected into freshman admissions, and how I can improve my chances of getting into Stanford, as it was and remains my dream university.

FEEDBACK: You are stating the obvious - that we don’t know you, and that you are requesting our opinions. This entire paragraph could be replaced by the sentence: I’d like some help in improving my chances of getting into Stanford as a transfer, after having been rejected for freshman admissions. It’s of no relevance that it’s your dream university or merely a university you like a lot.


  • As I previously stated, I did not receive the beloved “acceptance letter” from Stanford University. Instead, the dreadful words of, “I’m sorry to inform you…” were plastered onto my version of the admissions message. For two days, I was in utter dismay, shock, and felt only extreme sadness, to the point of near tears.I began questioning how my credentials, a 4.0 GPA, 33 ACT, what I presumed to be strong extracurriculars (two time varsity football athlete, multiple clubs, National Honors Society, 150+ service hours with local organization to donate supplies to my area’s city schools, which have low funding and many low income families / teachers) and a respectable common app essay detailing my early life struggles with verbal apraxia and living in the streets of Chicago and how it taught me the values of sacrifice and hark work to overcome anything life throws at you was not substantial enough to receive acceptance. Like, what gives? How come my accomplishments weren’t good enough? Unfortunately, I was not aware, and frankly at the time, was not concerned with the other thousands of my counterparts who felt similar emotions upon their rejection from Stanford, a realization I uncovered a week ago after reading beyond the first two sentences of my letter.*

FEEDBACK: You’ve already told us you didn’t get into Stanford. You don’t need to melodramatize the exact moment of receiving the letter or how long you were in shock. This entire paragraph could be replaced by: * I thought I had good stats (4.0 GPA, 33 ACT, varsity football, NHS, 150+ service hours and a common app essay about struggling with verbal apraxia), but it wasn’t enough for acceptance.* Again, it’s irrelevant whether you were “aware” or “unaware” of the emotions of thousands of other students who were rejected.


*Upon finding the College Confidential website for the first time two days ago, locating the thread on Stanford Class of 2020, and seeing the accolades of some Stanford acceptees (some claiming to have 28 ACTs, not being serious about essays, etc.), I can confidently say it both shattered my heart and humbled me in the most earnest of ways. While I initially felt jealously for those “taking my spot”, I grew to accept the circumstances and simply be happy for their success. Additionally, I finally removed my “blinding lenses” (figuratively) to fully acknowledge what the college admissions process truly is: a crapshoot. Everyone, acceptees or denied students alike, possesses unique characteristics within their personal lives, successes, and even failures, that sets them a part from each and every college hopeful. While some universities disclose their desires and criteria behind the complete applicant, you never will know the reasoning behind why the admissions officer who read your application ______ you, or what stuck out to him and her that said, “he/she is a viable candidate and will succeed at X university”! Fully understanding of the process and the complex intricacies that go into accepting prospective students, I felt somewhat better about myself and the slim percentage of applicants who actually received admittance. *

FEEDBACK: Too much irrelevant detail about how you found CC, and too much blather about “everyone possesses unique characteristics” and “you never know the reasoning behind why a given candidate was chosen.” This is called belaboring the obvious. This entire paragraph could be summed up by: * Now that I’ve had some time to recover from the shock, I realize that I didn’t need to feel jealous of those who got in, and I acknowledge that I never had any guarantee of getting into Stanford." *


*However, my ambition for getting into Stanford has not waned in the slightest. In fact, the rejection has driven my desire and love for Stanford to heights I never felt could exceed what I felt before my unpleasant March 25th decision news. I believe the news even stimulated my work ethic and drive to succeed in the classroom beyond my normal capacity, as I pulled off a couple of 100s on my most recent maths (Calc. BC and Stats) and Government tests last week. The decision status I received did not make my decision to go elsewhere easier. Instead, I stubbornly keep my application tab from my web broswer open andI have left my Stanford sweatshirt on for days (stinky, haha), and I almost refuse to put forth any considerations towards my other applications at Notre Dame, Duke, Boston College, Holy Cross, and Penn State.

Finding ways to somehow get into Stanford has not left my mind either. I’m considering to give the admissions office at Stanford a University a call or my sob email to ensure my admissions statement was correct. I’m currently searching community colleges to attend in desperation (as I saw a good number of statements from other College Confidential users saying they received acceptances into Stanford, like yours, via transfer from a CC). I am even attempting to hasten my recovery from an ACL tear suffered during Varsity Football, in the hopes that they miraculously acknowledge I am healthy and offer a scholarship (which Holy Cross and others have). I stubbornly refuse to accept my rejection letter and actively seek out any method for becoming a Stanford Undergraduate, which also led me to this website that I wish I located back in November when I applied.*

FEEDBACK: Again, you tend to include irrelevant details. Why are you citing March 25th? Why are you then circling back around to wishing that you’d found CC in November. If you had to summarize this paragraph you could simply say: * However, I still am determined to go to Stanford. I’ve heard that it’s possible to transfer from a comm college into Stanford; is that true, or am I better off pursuing a degree at one of my other options – Notre Dame, Duke, Boston, Holy Cross, Penn State? I have a football scholarship to Holy Cross; would it be reasonable for me to expect that Stanford, too, might give me a football scholarship?" * (The answer is no, of course, but at least you would have asked the question clearly.


*I admit the last two paragraph was a bit of ranting, with a touch of hubris, but, seriously, I am doing everything in my power to get into my dream school, even if it is excessive and perhaps clingy of myself to do so. So, if I may ask, could you provide any insight or information as to aid my inevitable transfer application? Anything that comes to mind - extracurricular, colleges and specific locations (I have yet to commit to any university yet), recommendations for potential essays, or even advice on a Rudy-esque admissions path yet to be discovered and utilized - ANYTHING. The former serves to prove my desperation! *

There is nothing you have said here that you didn’t already say above.

@Pizzagirl I appreciate the feedback on my writing. I knew it was hogwash immediately upon posting it, but did not know of the 15 minute grace period to delete the discussion. Which, in a sense, was both terrifying considering I messed up big time on my first post on an online forum, and gratifying that I was able to learn from my mistakes. Thank you again.

@ZigaloZiggyZig , I am hurt and despondent that you didn’t comment on my poem. :-<

If a relative is willing to pay large amounts of money, why not ask him if he would help finance Holy Cross?

Although I’m one who thinks you should be going to U at Buffalo.

@Lindagaf The best-“rather bad poem” I’ve seen, albeit the absence of a semi colon. Happy?

@CheddarcheeseMN Not until next year, as in after my freshman year of college (or the beginning if I decide to take the gap year). Thus, I am still unable to pay for HC.

If this makes you feel better, I too got denied from Stanford (one of my top colleges). I Didn’t have such a high ACT score as you, but you stated that some students mentioned having a 28 and not being serious about essays, which CRUSHED me because I put everything into my essays. I even had my research professor write me a letter of rec. sigh As you can see, I am still sad about my rejection. I too even considered attending CC and then transferring to Stanford or my other top schools I was rejected to, but I changed my mind. I was accepted to Pomona College and Berkeley. I’m struggling to make a decision.

It’s part of life to not always get what you so very much desire no matter how much effort you put. I would rather face rejection/losing/failure now that I am 16 then at a later age when, for ex, that admission means a HUGE deal for me like an admission to Harvard Medical School–I believe that would greatly impact my career. It’s better to learn this lesson and grow it now then later. these rejections were a wake up call in and I do not want to face the same situation when I apply to medical school. I am more determined then ever to be accepted to my top medical schools thanks to being rejected. In all honesty, I probably wouldn’t feel this determined to prove myself and have such a competitive drive if I was accepted.

you got accepted to great colleges and i believe you should attend one of them. If plan on going to graduate school, apply to stanford.

Yes, I am cheered, joyful, and blithe at bringing you a little pleasure during one of the low points in your young life. Now, go forth and conquer.

@chickenjaelittle Very inspiring words. I too am still feeling anguish about not getting accepted, but you are right that it has motivated me to work even harder during college to prove myself. Thank you for sharing your story. I wish you the best in your impending college decision aswell - both of those colleges are remarkable!

Plus, it doesn’t make me feel better that you didn’t get in, it makes me feel bad for both of us, lol.

@Lindagaf Thank you.

@ZigaloZiggyZig Haha.

I just read that you won’t have much help in regards to paying for your tuition, and didn’t realize that. Maybe because your financial situation, CC is a good option. However, what do your parents think about you attending a CC because I told my parents about doing the whole CC thing and they basically were like “No!”

But if you do plan doing CC, maybe consider transferring to Pomona College because they give great financial aid.

@chickenjaelittle Is Pomona College still offering freshman admission?

I have yet to discuss my desire for a gap year or CC with my parents, which I will be doing momentarily. CC and gap year are both viable options for me, and honestly I am still doing some more research into which prospect will yield better results. I am more lenient towards a gap year because it will provide a second chance for me to select new schools for freshman admission (UC Berkeley was among that list, but I am a NY resident and they were not kind to my academic counterparts) and improve my EC’s. Once I become more informed on my options and select the best choice, I will be sure to inform you and everyone else of my decision.

Congrats on your acceptances!

Pomona is very elite, so no, they won’t have any admissions for this year. Do a search for colleges with rolling admissions. There is a stickied post, in think in the college search and selection forum. Also, in May, NACA weill publish a list of colleges who haven’t met their yield and are looking for students. Some of the colleges are excellent. I have no idea if merit aid will be possible at those colleges. UCBalumnus probably knows.

@ZigaloZiggyZig I actually dont know if Pomona is offering freshman admissions.Maybe when you have the time you can contact the admissions office.

Whether you decide on a gap year or going to CC, I wish you the best because you must be having a hard time making a decision. It’s so difficult and stressful. Or maybe you can attend on the colleges you were accepted to and try to transfer from that school to another. My friend told me about a student that transferred from Wellesley College to some other college (dont remember the name).

Remember, your “gap year” doesn’t have to be anything fancy. You don’t need to volunteer at the perfect place, or cure cancer. If you get a job, think about your college application list, and continue your recovery from your ACL injury, that will be enough.

@Lindagaf Definitely will be checking out that list when it is released. Thank you once again!

@chickenjaelittle I’m afraid the majority of my choices, save UB, are out of the picture financially, which is why CC and gap year are at large, Either way, like you said, the decision remains a difficult one.

@happymomof1 I appreciate the insight. Thank you!

I bet you could rock a gap year. Even a simple one. Excellent idea.

Reading this thread has hurt my brain. If the OP is as smart as he claims to be, he would understand his financial predicament and run to UB. It is a perfectly fine school for engineering. A lot of people did not get into Stanford - shake it off and move on.