Desperate International Applicant

<p>I am a new member of college confidential and, first, I wanted to tell you how great was this forum . I’m learning stuff everyday about Sat’s and most of all, I don’t feel like I was the only desperate applicant : to all of them : We’ll get our thick enveloppe !
So I wanted to expose you my situation since it is a bit unusual, though not exceptional, to, if you could just devote (is the term too strong ? ) some minutes of your, i’m sure busy lives, get some advises .</p>

<p>First, I am currently in senior year in an unknown french private high school (much more cheaper as the american ones, I can assure it). Well, my concern is about my academic . Since I’m in primary school, people always have considered me as a clever student, even if I think they were exagerating a lot. However, last year, as a junior, my grades fell and I even got the equivalent of B+ (I am using the french embassy equivalences) in scientifical classes . I know these results are honorable but my childhood dream is to attend Harvard and I know it may be very insufficient.
When I told my friends that I would try, they immediately told me that I was able to succeed but I think they’re overestimating my marks, and seriously underestimation other applicants (anyway, i just love them !) . For example, since 9th grade to 10th grade included, I was in the 5%top of my class, even the first I think, but since last year, (except during the first trimester where I did very well, an average of A+ and the worst grade was a B+ in sports), my grades fell to B+ for the worst (in biology and geology during the second trimester, and in maths during the third one).
For biology and geology, I think I can make up for it since i have been ranked (3rd) in an academical geology contest, and I was the first of my high school . But for maths I am afraid it ruins all the efforts I have been making for years (I could ask a teacher report to my former maths teacher, who actually taught me in 9th and 11th grades, but I’m afraid he just completely ruins my application) .
Another HUGE concern is my grades in the anticipated baccalaureat exam . I had an awful grade of 9/20 (I saw it was a B- :s) in written french (4 hours essay) but very good grades in oral french ( a 20 minutes presentation over french literature texts) 18/20, 18 at my TPE (a six months “research” project in groups, with a final essay and a presentation in june-we made a magazine, can I use it as a supplement material ?-) and a grade, my classmates, teachers and my counsellor said was outstanding, 20/20 in history and geography (4 hours essay, a map to do and a document to analyze). Because history is more weighted than other subjects, I received an average of 16,6/20 which I think is an A+. It is actually good but the B- might (will ?) spoil everything .</p>

<p>Another concern, yeah, I am very concerned, is my SAT tests. I’m taking 3 subjects (Biology E/M, Maths level 2 and World History) in a month only and I plan to intensely train during this two weeks holiday but I am afraid it’s not good enough to target a perfect score . I think it’s the only way I might be admitted right ? IceQube (this guy is a genius right ? 3 perfect score O_O) gave me advises and I plan to devote (the term is not strong enough there) 40 hours next week (OMG, if I survive this, I think I’ll survive everything)</p>

<p>Concerning extracurriculars, I am involved in my high school « aumonerie » for two years and we have organized a final year show. I’m also, since september part of a national association, as a volunteer, and I am tutoring a little girl. Furthermore, I am participating to a programm started this year with the retirement house located in my school (unusual I know) to read books to elderly people . Furthermore, I’ve practised classical guitar for five years (I was pretty lousy but my teacher liked me)+ 2 years in an “ensemble”. Concerning music, i was good in music theory (should I ask a report to my teacher ? He has always overoverestimated my abilities, that could help, couldn’t it ?). However, in France, extracurriculars are not that important, that is why I dread that my counsellor might not even mention my involvment in school extracurricular’s life.</p>

<p>What could help me is that I am currently being the only senior student in my school, and probably among a few hundreds in the country, to have that much classes considering that I am currently having 3 options, while we are limited to 2 for the Baccalauréat. Besides, my path (if you see what I mean), can be considered as unusual, and by many interesting since I was born abroad in a country that has faced HUGE difficulties (a genocide, nothing less) and my parents had to face so much when we arrived here in France. Nevertheless, I have scruples about talking about such a dramatic and tragic event, only, for college, even if my parents encourage me to do so, telling me that it is a part of who I am, of my story.</p>

<p>So, my question is, regarding this brief (not that brief I know), summary, do you think I even got a chance to be admitted to Harvard ? I’m dreaming of this since I am seven . Have I absolutely to get perfect scores to my SAT (what I mean is : will they be more indulgent with the english section because english is my second language ?) and, should I talk about my social background (including the events that have shook up my country of birth) ? Or would it be a pure making tool of, which I surely don’t want to do ?</p>

<p>It’s a little tough to wade through your post, but it sounds like you’ve gotten mostly As with a few B+s thrown in, academically. If you’re taking the top courses offered by your school, your grades will be fine.</p>

<p>You don’t need perfect scores on the SAT or the subject tests, although very high scores help a good bit.</p>

<p>"…should I talk about my social background (including the events that have shook up my country of birth) ? Or would it be a pure making tool of, which I surely don’t want to do ?"</p>

<p>I don’t know enough about your “social background” or the events that “shook up [your] country of birth” to say one way or other.</p>

<p>But if you have something interesting, compelling to say, and you can say it well, then say it.</p>

<p>Your English is clearly not that of a native English speaker. Harvard does state that they want folks who have really good English.</p>

<p>Anyway, if it’s not too much trouble, give it a shot! Last year, less than 6% of applicants were accepted, so it’s a gamble for anyone. But as they say, the golf ball must fall on some blade of grass, and you gotta play to win.</p>

<p>You can’t get in if you don’t apply.</p>

<p>" I’m dreaming of this since I am seven . "</p>

<p>Harvard-aspirant: Here’s a task for you. Generate a list of fifteen other schools that can provide you with what you presume Harvard can. </p>

<p>Okay, let’s say FIVE.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for answering so fast ! Well, I am applying to five other colleges which are as prestigious as Harvard (MIT, Amherst,Yale,Princeton, Dartmouth) . But I mean, if I can get in Harvard, I can get anywhere right ?
About my english, I know I often make grammar mistakes but I’m working on it . But you have been able to understand me right ? If you want, I can reexplain some things that were unclear.
Another question : can I send the magazine we made as a supplemental material since it is in french and I only got one ?</p>

<p>Colleges don’t want your magazine. Don’t send it</p>

<p>ok . Thanks for your answer :)</p>

<p>Hi!
I’m also French, so I might be able to provide some info.
There is a HUGE difference between french&american admissions. In france, schools concentrate mostly on grades/bac scores. This is not the case in the US; of course you have to do very well to be considered at the top colleges, but they evaluate you holistically.
This means, in part, that they dont really see a difference between a 2300 and a 2400. strong scores are more than sufficient. What admissions officers do want to see is you as a person. You’ve obviously challenged yourself academically, since you’re in S, and you seem to be a really good student (a few Bs shouldn’t kill you if you have other things going for you). Also, remember that Harvard and other colleges only look at your averages for the year, so depending on how you did in the first trimesters last year, they won’t even see a dip in your math grades.
Don’t submit the TPE, it’s nothing exceptional. However, do talk about any circumstances in your life that are unusual, those could help you.
Finally, remember that Harvard accepts 1 out of every 20 students who apply, most.of whom are quite qualified. So it’s nothing personal to be rejected, but you should prepare some backups (Yale&Princeton don’t count).
Good luck!</p>

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<p>Thank you so much Frosh2013 ! You’ve reassured me so much considering my average grades ! But, do they pay attention to the baccalaur</p>

<p>I don’t think that they look at the bac, but I wouldn’t complain :stuck_out_tongue: (12 ecrit/13 oral/16 TPE)
My situation is similar to yours. Just one difference: I’m in a Lycee Francais in Canada.
I am also experiencing a big dip in math (I’m in TS) because of teacher shifts, but whatever. Keep everything up and remember: according to my research, any mark over 14 is an A (and maybe a 4.0, not sure about that) so we should be ok :)</p>

<p>Well, i went to Education USA to get help because i couldn’t simply fill the GPA in the common App and I’ve got a 15.92 cumulative GPA (from 9th to 11th) which I think is pretty good :smiley:
Well, french embassy equivalences scale clearly precises that “best students receive grades between 14 and 16 and that 17 and above is exceptionnal”. So, I think we’re pretty well, but, as notjoe said, Harvard is a gamble for everyone.</p>

<p>Your list of schools is way too ambitious with your profile. The are all reach schools with odds that are crazy for everyone. You better do more research fast to find realistic schools and certainly apply in France! Sorry to be harsh but …</p>

<p>Yes I’m aware of that. That’s why I am applying to more reachable schools and of course in France too . And you’re not being harsh with me but quite realistic . I know my record is good but not exceptionnal at all that is why I’m trying to make up for it with my tests, essays and recomendation letters . But I’m still trying Harvard (who knows ?) because I don’t want to wonder all my life if I could have been admitted</p>