<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html</a> </p>
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<p>since am I paying for my service and count on in in an emergency for somesomeone to be able to cut my service is ust wrong</p>
<p>think about a bank robber, or a terrorist, or a school shooter</p>
<p>why is is okay to sell this stuff?</p>
<p>Forgetting the legal aspects of this; such as authorized frequencies and such; I can see a lot of viable uses for such a device. There are a lot of times where such a device would come in very handy. There are a lot of RUDE and INCONSIDERATE people out there using cell phones. People who don’t care about anyone else’s rights or being inconvenient. And with the device only working up to about 30 feet away, is definitely seems like a device with the potential for a lot of very good uses. (If you’re within 30 feet of a bankrobber or terrorist, I don’t you’d be in a position to use your phone. Not impossible, just not probably. If you are further that that, then the device wouldn’t be affecting you anyway.</p>
<p>I don’t care about RUDE and INCONDSIDERATE people</p>
<p>If I am someplace and my mother is hurt, I don’t want my phone blocked by some jerk so I don’t get the call</p>
<p>Christcorp, if your child was hurt and you didn’t get the call because someone blocked your phone use, bet you wouldn’t be so cavalier</p>
<p>And 30 feet is a 1/3rd of a football field- nto super duper close…</p>
<p>but hey, if there is an accident and some one is fooling around with on of those divices and you can’t call for help, good thing someone can block your call</p>
<p>and if someone has a heartattack in the theater and you can’t call for help, and no one else can either, guess the divice was a swell idea</p>
<p>sometimes lack of common sense is jsut astounding</p>
<p>and someone talking loudly in a restuarant or theater doesn’t mean that another has the right to take away MY phone usage, now does it</p>
<p>CGM, you must have taken that “New Math”. 30 feet is NOT 1/3 of a football field. To be exact, it is 1/10 of a football field. 10 yards in football terms.</p>
<p>But hey, you’ll disagree anyway, so let’s just leave it at that. I see some positive uses for such a device, and you don’t. I see times when inconsiderate cell phone usage should be turned off; e.g. movie theater, concert, school presentation in auditorium, church, etc… you don’t. And even in the places I think it could be useful, even they are a lot bigger than 30 feet. Unless we use your math.</p>
<p>And for what it’s worth; if some people weren’t so inconsiderate, selfish, and self centered, there wouldn’t be a need or a market for such a device.</p>
<p>I play tennis at a facility in the hills, and the cell reception is awfully weak. You can get calls, in that your phone will ring, and you know who called, but you can’t talk to them. Those in the know just leave the phones in silent mode so we can check later. In case of emergency we leave the clubhouse number with those who need to get us. And those of us with sick family members (and there are a few) do leave the ringers on, and the others on the courts understand.</p>
<p>In general, for concert halls or restaurants this would be a better kind of “blocking”. You’d know the call came in, it might even vibrate (I’d assume people would still turn the ringer off), but you’d have to step out to call back.</p>
<p>Back in the dark ages folks were not accessible on demand. It wasn’t all that bad. People had heart attacks in theatres and people would just run out of the theatre and have the management call for help on a landline. Pluses to that, the landline goes to the local 911, directly to the closest emergency personnel. The cell phone goes to a regional 911, which then forwards back to the local one after they figure out where that would be. Depending on the region, that could take 5 to 10 minutes longer.</p>
<p>^Seriously, I agree…you guys act like cell phones are the be-all and end-all answer for everything.</p>
<p>Almost anywhere you are there is a landline you can get to instead of a cell phone. Personally, I think that’s a great idea, and if I’m somewhere where it’s not courteous to use my cell phone then hey go ahead and block it that’s fine with me. If there’s an emergency I’ll find a landline. (And that’s from a phone-addicted teenager.)</p>
<p>It is one thing for a concert hall or a restaurant to block everyone’s cell phone use–they could just post a notice or make an announcement to that effect. I have no problem with that.</p>
<p>I have a major problem with some individual thinking he has the right to turn off someone else’s phone without notice because he finds the other person’s behavior annoying. That is a new level of arrogance and selfishness that surpasses even rude cell phone users.</p>
<p>^Yes, but do people actually listen to the announcement/notice? No. And to me, that’s just as selfish/arrogant as turning off someone else’s phone.</p>
<p>Besides, at most of the places these will likely be used most of us will have our phones off (or at least on silent so we’d miss the call anyway) already. So I don’t quite see what the huge deal is.</p>
<p>^^^You are happy to give some anonymous individual the power and the right to determine how, when and where you will communicate with other people? Wow.</p>
<p>Lke I said, it is acceptable to have rules governing where and when cell phones can be used, but that is totally different than some jerk in a bad mood turning off the phones of everyone within 30 feet. </p>
<p>When a loud mouth took a phone call in the middle of a cub scout pack master’s talk, all it took to set the guy straight was a tap on the shoulder and a dirty look. No need for stealth devices.</p>
<p>^Don’t the rules you’re talking about, when followed, do the same thing?</p>
<p>I guess the reason it doesn’t bother me is because my school already does this…if our phones are even seen out at school, they’re taken away and our parents have to come pick them up from the Principal. Repeat offenses lead to demerits and detentions.</p>
<p>When I enter a theater, I put my phone on silent, and I expect everyone to do the same. I don’t mind when there are cell phone blockers there, either, as everyone is voluntarily entering a situation in which they know that cell phone use is prohibited.</p>
<p>There aren’t generally land lines available on a train or bus, and I have a huge problem with people thinking it is acceptable to cut off an individual’s usage on one of those situations.</p>
<p>I have been in situations where people’s conversations have been quite obnoxious - if it gets to a point, I will politely ask them to keep it down. Usually they are quite receptive. If they aren’t, I think it is perfectly acceptable to ask an authority figure (even the bus driver) to tell them to tone it down. It is not okay to use one of those devices</p>
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<p>That’s food for thought.</p>
<p>midmo; you are responding solely on a legal and personal standing. The original link already admits that it is illegal to do such a thing. This thread has evolved into 2 different directions. Let’s stay focused on 1 path here.</p>
<p>FORGET what’s legal. Forget what “YOU WANT”. Don’t fall into the trap that some people do and NOT LOOK at both sides of an issue. The point I was trying to make, that CGM didn’t want to hear, was that “THIS TECHNOLOGY MOST DEFINITELY HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME POSITIVE USES”. It is that plane and simple. There are times when such a technology could be useful. Morally, legally, socially, etc…</p>
<p>As already said, there are already plenty of places where you can’t get cell coverage anyway. Under the cgm theory, not only should this device not be developed or used, but that billions more should be spent to provide cell coverage in every physical spot in America. As also already pointed out. Cell phones are not the end of the world. In most circumstances, there are plenty of other ways to get assistance.</p>
<p>A prime example of where this technology would be great would be in a doctor’s office building or hospital. MOST post signs that say to please turn off cell phones. YET, there are still the BUTTHEADS that don’t turn them off when they enter. Even if it’s accidentally that they just forgot. A hospital is a great place for this device. There is no need for you to disturb all these other people with your stupid cell phone ringers and your loud conversations. There are phones to emergency services practically in every hall way. There are doctors and nurses close enough to grab. There is no emergency where a cell phone would be life saving. And for what it’s worth, people survived quite well 20 years ago without cell phones.</p>
<p>Bottom line is; there are plenty of scenarios where such a device would be useful. Don’t talk about that the device should not exist at all because you don’t like it and can think of about 10 reasons NOT to use it. If there is 1 place where such a device can be useful, then it should be allowed to be used. Maybe it needs to have it’s use monitored, but that’s acceptable and a TOTALLY DIFFERENT TOPIC. Unfortunately, there are those who WON’T look at both sides of a debate and argument. They won’t see the positive in something. They just see how it affects them. Look at our use of cars, guns, satellites, roller blades, and every other item on the planet that mankind has invented. I can find at least 1 reason why the device is bad and shouldn’t be used. I can also think of at least 1 reason why the device is good and SHOULD be used. The point is, there are some people that are too narrow minded and self centered and only see the world through their desires instead of trying to see both sides of a situation, debate, argument, etc…</p>
<p>what I meant is that I don’t care about rude and incosinderate people if that means SOME OTHER STRANGER takes away MY phone use, even though I am not being RUDE or incpnsiderate</p>
<p>does a person have the right to cut off ALL cell phone use in a certan area just because one person is being a jerk?</p>
<p>I don’t think so </p>
<p>but hey,I guess for some, taking away most people’s “freedoms” because a few are jerky is okay!!!</p>
<p>and by “right” I mean morally, not legally</p>
<p>Certainly there are potential positive uses for this device (I think they’ve started using it at the local theater, which is great, if only because I’m embarrassed that my mother is always the one to forget to turn off her cell phone). However, the initial example in the article was not appropriate, and I am shocked that* individuals<a href=“not%20businesses,%20like%20a%20doctor’s%20office%20or%20a%20movie%20theater%20or%20someone%20else%20on%20their%20own%20%5Bi%5Dprivate%5B/i%5D%20property”>/i</a> would have the arrogance to use one of these - I think it is way more out of bounds than conducting a loud phone conversation for all the bus to hear.</p>
<p>so, if I am in a theater, and my phone is on vibrate and my D has a crisis, guess I have no right to get that text</p>
<p>and if a business used it, they better darn well tell me and I would not go there</p>
<p>as for hospitals, the vast majority of people are well behaved, but to take away the rights of the majority because a few stupid people is an interesting concept</p>
<p>scary one as well</p>
<p>Christcorp, what if a man’s wife was pregnant, and his wife had a problem and he was someplace where some business or theater decided the H didn’t need to get a call or text from his wife who was depending on that phone</p>
<p>but that is okay with Christcorp I guess</p>
<p>You volunteered to enter the theater, I think they are fully within bounds to cut off your cell phone use then. If you are so dependent on your phone, you can step outside and check in on your daughter every hour or so - or wait until it comes out on DVD.</p>
<p>Cell phones are already disabled in many hospitals, because I think that they can actually interfere with some of the machinery (though I don’t see how these devices wouldn’t cause similar interferences, I know that I went to the hospital last Spring and my phone reception was lost completely). Of course I think everything should be done to maximize safety inside a hospital - if that means cutting off cell phone reception, absolutely. Likewise in a plane, assuming that these blockers didn’t carry similar (albeit miniscule) dangers. </p>
<p>However, I said nothing about hospitals (I mentioned doctor’s offices, in response to the earlier example) and I do think that cell phones should be permitted inside hospital waiting areas - I understand the necessity for keeping in touch with people then. I do, however, wish that people would take their conversations outside.</p>
<p>citygirlsmom, I don’t like how you attempt to discredit people by calling their opinions “scary” and implying that everyone is a fascist. If you actually read clearly, you’d see that I also oppose the use of these devices under most circumstances, and do not support individuals using them.</p>
<p>This cellphone reception interruption device has been around for a while. I can see both its utility, and the problems with it. It kinda reminds me (go with me on this for a minute) of the gizmos you can get that keeps the person sitting in front of you on an airplane from reclining their seat into your lap [The</a> original Knee Defender - travel gadgets accessory - airplane legroom, DVT - travel accessories](<a href=“http://www.gadgetduck.com/goods/kneedefender.html]The”>http://www.gadgetduck.com/goods/kneedefender.html) In the latter case, for the mostpart it is just a comfort issue for both parties in their respective seats. There are also screen privacy filters to keep nosey airline seatmates from reading what you type (or watch or read) on your laptop [Keep</a> Wandering Eyes off Your Computer Screen | DoItYourself.com](<a href=“http://www.doityourself.com/stry/ara_keepwanderingeye]Keep”>http://www.doityourself.com/stry/ara_keepwanderingeye) If a person is unusually loud on their cellphone, hopefully one can politely let them know their volume is too loud. I would not want to have my cellphone access cut off by someone who thinks their right to silence outweighs my right to access , but then again, if I am being unnecessarily insensitive to others, a polite reminder is (usually) appreciated. Maybe someone should invent a device that lets you remotely put some inconsiderate person’s cellphone conversation on a speaker for all to hear-- then everyone can listen to ther conversation! They’ll get the message! </p>
<p>And as someone pointed out, cgm, the device works for 30 feet, not 30 yards.</p>