<p>Holy Cross is the only school on that list that I applied to. It seems to be only mostly top schools.</p>
<p>[Tools</a> and Resources | Afford | Undergraduate Admissions | Clark University](<a href=“http://www.clarku.edu/admissions/afford/tools/index.cfm]Tools”>http://www.clarku.edu/admissions/afford/tools/index.cfm)</p>
<p>I already found that and I asked my father to do it last night, but he said he’ll do it today. Wooster and Allegheny also have early estimators and they will mail the early FA decision. I attempted to do Knox’s online by myself.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that all of the schools are now required to have calculators online to estimate your costs.</p>
<p>Jym, it’s easy to find out what any college’s financial aid policies are. According to stats on the College Board site, Clark does not meet full need, but on average meets 94% of need. Of students who do receive financial aid, roughly 60% do have full need met. </p>
<p>It’s typical for colleges that do not meet full need of all students to follow a system of preferential packaging – the stronger applicants get more aid, the weaker applicants are the ones who get skimpy (admit-deny) packages. The fact that Clark has offered a merit award is a good sign – it means that early college may be more likely to be one of the 60%. </p>
<p>Of course he won’t know until the spring, but think its rather pessimistic to view this as an “admit-deny” situation. </p>
<p>Here are some more figures re Clark:</p>
<p>Average percent of need met: 94%
Average financial aid package: $28,615
Average need-based loan: $3,225
Average need-based scholarship or grant award: $23,789
Average non-need based aid: $13,763
Average indebtedness at graduation: $24,000</p>
<p>early college is not the best test taker on this board, but he clearly is one of the most highly motivated students. He has been on these boards since he was about 14 (I think), and he has done his homework 10 times over when it come to researching colleges and developing a realistic application list. I think that some people sell him short because his test scores are weak, but colleges really do look beyond test scores.</p>
<p>The US news also shows that the average cost at Clark is around $44K (Clark’s site says its more like 47K with tuition, room and board, not to mention books, transportation and other expenses <a href=“http://www.clarku.edu/admissions/afford/tuition.cfm[/url]”>Apply – Undergraduate Admissions), and that 63% of students have demonstrated financial need. EC said that his parents could barely afford $13K out of pocket. If Clark is generous with him, then great. If not, then he really, REALLY needs a financial safety. As many have said here, average FA package of 28K can mean one gets 20K and one gets 8k.</p>
<p>I completely agree with jym (post 386). EC, make sure that you have a financial safety.</p>
<p>I have been on this board since 14, I’ll be 18 in April. I appreciate the kind words calmom. GCSU was my financial safety, but I got deferred. If I do not get accepted in January, I’ll apply to Valdosta State unwillingly. I have researched each and every school for hours/days on my list.There is a reason why I applied to all these schools.</p>
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EC- You should really have a financial safety that you would be comfortable attending, even if you then consider a transfer.</p>
<p>Sounds like your grades were improved this semester which should help improve chances of admission to GCSU. Show them the love!!! Its in a charming little small town, btw.</p>
<p>** and correction on my math-- avg FA of $28K can mean one gets $46K and one gets $10k</p>
<p>EC, I think that you should have a financial safety to a school where you can make it work so that you are happy and learning. You don’t want to end up wanting to transfer, or being sour about where you are attending college.</p>
<p>The only financial safeties I could have our instate schools and GCSU is the only school I would be comfortable attending; although, it isn’t ideal or a top choice. Lenior-Rhyne costs less then most of these schools and I received a $10,000 scholarship per year, so it will be interesting to know my financial aid package. U Minnesota-Morris use to be on my list and it only costed 18k a year, but I took it off.</p>
<p>Okay, so I just made my father do Clark’s early estimator. He also did Wooster’s and Allegheny’s, but they mail you it.</p>
<p>The estimated cost of attendance to Clark is: $46,450</p>
<p>Estimated Grant Aid:
Pell Grant- $1,300
Federal/State/Institutional Grant-$30,000
Estimated Total Grant Aid: $31,300</p>
<p>Estimated Net Price: $15,150</p>
<p>Estimated Self Help:
Student Loan- $5,500
Student Work: $2,000
Estimated Total Self Help: $7,500</p>
<p>Estimated Remaining Cost: $7,650</p>
<p>Calculated Family Contribution: $6,341
Student Contribution: $2,500
Parent Contribution: $3,841</p>
<p>Total Student 4 year Debt: $22,000</p>
<p>So, I think we would have to pay $7,650 per year which is great, but it doesn’t meet full need but it is close.</p>
<p>Just remember that those estimators are “estimates”, based on the numbers that you enter into them. If the numbers are off, your package could look completely different. If I were you, I would not count on this as your package until you actually get an actual package from them. I would continue to make sure that I had a financial safety.</p>
<p>Okay, so I got an email from Allegheny’s admission officer this morning: Hi early_college, I hope you’re having a great week. I just wanted to give you the heads up that you should be keeping a close watch on your mail over the next few days-- there’s some great news on the way for you!</p>
<p>Yay, so I’m excited about Allegheny. I hope I got some merit scholarships, we will find out soon! Cross your fingers.</p>
<p>I will be withdrawing my application from Cornell College. I talked to an admission officer yesterday and if I don’t retake my SAT, they will reject me. They do not have a holistic approach. All they care about is the SAT. She said if I could not do well on the SAT, I could not keep up with CC’s course-load. I told her I have taken over 10 Honors classes and 5 AP classes, but all Cornell cares about is the SAT. She told me I could go to Cornell and take a practice ACT and they’ll count it, no thanks! They want a 1000 and I have a 900. It’s not worth it and I’ve had very bad things happen with Cornell all together. She told me I had a learning disability just because I did bad on the SAT. When I had the interview, the admission officer said he tells people he went to the real Cornell and he wanted to go to the U of Texas not Cornell. So, yeah def withdrawing my application. She said she didn’t even know one had to have a 1000 SAT, the other admission officer didn’t either. He never said anything about my SATs on the phone. And I told her I got accepted to Knox and Clark and she said Cornell is a MUCH better school and has a much more rigorous course-load.</p>
<p>I emailed OWU asked about if I could still apply for the theater scholarship, she said: “I would definitely still apply! Are you considering taking ACT or SAT in January or February? That could definitely enhance your chances of being taken off the waitlist and receiving a theatre scholarship. Let me know if you have other questions!”</p>
<p>Early Estimators: </p>
<p>Holy Cross:
Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: $54,358</p>
<p>Grant Aid:
Pell Grant: $1,300
Holy Cross Scholarship: $38,800
Estimated Total Grant Aid: $40,100</p>
<p>Estimated Net Price: $14,258</p>
<p>Estimated Self Help:
Student Loan: $6,000
Student Work: $1,800
Estimated Total Self Help: $ 7,800</p>
<p>Estimated Remaining Cost: $6,458</p>
<p>Calculated Family Contribution: 6,441</p>
<p>So, it costs less then Clark but they make up with it by $2,000 more loans overall. </p>
<p>Flagler College:
Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: $27,400</p>
<p>Grant Aid:
Flagler College Grants: $2,900
Estimated Total Grant Aid: $2,900</p>
<p>Estimated Net Price: $24,500</p>
<p>Estimated Self Help:
Student Loan: $5,500
Estimated Total Self Help: $5,500</p>
<p>Estimated Remaining Cost: $17,200</p>
<p>So, way too much money and Flagler costs half the price almost as HC.</p>
<p>Earlham College:
Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: $50,054</p>
<p>Grant Aid:
Estimated College Grant: $18,750
Estimated Total Grant Aid: $18,750</p>
<p>Estimated Net Price: $31,304</p>
<p>Estimated Self Help:
Student Loan: $7,000
Student Work: $2,300
Parent Loan: $22,004 (PER YEAR OMG!)
Estimated Total Self Help: $31,304</p>
<p>Estimated Remaining Cost: $0</p>
<p>Calculated Family Contribution: $13,430</p>
<p>I also did Sarah Lawrence for the fun of it:
Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: $58,768</p>
<p>Grant Aid:
Pell Grant: $1,300
Sarah Lawrence Grant: $36,000
Estimated Total Grant Aid: $37,300</p>
<p>Estimated Net Price: $21,468</p>
<p>Estimated Self Help:
Student Loan: $3,000
Student Work: $1,800
Parent Loan: $12,400 (NO!)
Estimated Total Self Help: $17,200</p>
<p>Estimated Remaining Cost: $4,268</p>
<p>I also did Cornell’s for the fun of it and they expect me to pay $17,845 per year after financial aid. So, basically Earlham/Flagler will probably not be affordable based on these estimates. My mother just told me she will not take out any parent loans, Earlham expects my parents to take out $100,000 in loans for 4 years. CRAZY! And I’m not applying to SLC, I just wanted to see their financial aid package they’d give me. </p>
<p>I know these are estimates, but my father had his tax forms in front of him while he was doing it so all the numbers are correct. I sent in Allegheny’s and Woosters early estimators via website and they will mail my estimates.</p>
<p>It sounds like Cornell is a poor fit for you in any case, if they’re all about the numbers, but I wouldn’t totally dismiss the suggestion that your SAT score reflects a learning difference of some kind. The fact that you have a 93.6% average on honors and AP classes and can’t get over 900 on the SAT isn’t diagnostic in itself, but it certainly should raise a red flag that something like a learning disability may be at play.</p>
<p>Good point, mathmomvt. Several posters have been sugggesting for years that this may be a possibility and that he should have considered testing for a learning disability, that could lead to recommendations, interventions and accomodations, but IIRC, the OP felt it was test anxiety and didnt pursue an evaluation.</p>
<p>I just sent my withdrawal to Cornell. I am just a bad test taker. My mother is a teacher and there is nothing wrong with me. I have always scored average on standardized tests growing up. I got B’s and C’s in elementary school, but started to get honor roll once in middle school. It’s my strong work ethic. I have plenty of friends who scored very closely to me on the SAT (got a 1420 out of 2400) and they also take AP/Honors classes. My school does not have grade inflation. I have worked very hard for each one of my grades. And I have never had trouble focusing or anything. I can read a whole book for the entire day and do homework without distractions; although, in recent years facebook is a distraction haha. But I can say that about 99% of teens.</p>
<p>See?</p>
<p>ec- if in fact you don’t have any underlying attentional issues, that bodes even more strongly for the possibility that you may have another issue that causes you to be unable to demonstrate your knowledge base in a structured testing environment (classroom or standardized tests). Our concern is that if it isnt explored, it will follow you into your college experience as well.</p>
<p>I have no problems doing well on normal tests or finals at school which is a structured testing environment.And on the Georgia High School Graduation Test, I exceeded in Social Studies and got Advanced in Language Arts and Math. I got a basic score for Science.</p>
<p>The HS graduation test is a BASIC COMPETENCE (proficiency) test. Anyone going to college had better score better than a basic score on that test.
You repeated over and over that you did poorly in many subjects, or your grades dropped at the end of the semester due to your exams.<br>
If you don’t want to look at this, that is your choice.</p>