Did I apply to too many reach schools? Deffered from many schoo Concerned Senior here

<p>Hi, I applied to around 9 schools early action. A list of these schools included:
U Wisconsin-Madison
Penn State
Rutgers
UFlorida
Umiami
Fordham
Vermont
Northeastern
Michigan State
Tulane University
Boston U (Regular for Dec. 1st Deadline, maxiumum scholarship consideration )</p>

<p>I will apply:
Lehigh
Occidental
Loyola Chicago
George Washington
McGill</p>

<p>Again. My school has a great record of sending kids with stats lower than the average population to these schools, especially Mcgill, Northeastern, BU, Fordham, Tulane, Rutgers, Lehigh, and GW. I had an interview with Lehigh that went very well and my best friend currently attends the school. My interview was also with the regional head of admissions for GW, he and I had a very long disccusion about living in Rhode Island and he told me that I was one of the most interesting student he had met in a while.
Honestly, I have to admit, most of these schools were reaches for me. But again, I attend one of the top public schools in Rhode Island, where the high school is extremly small and competitive and the average g.p.a is arond 4.0. I took a careful look at the stats book at my highschool and saw I was either on the higher spectrum of people accepted from my school to these universities or somewhere in the middle. My guidance counsler wanted me to only apply to five schools in the same region and refused to give me any safeties, reaches, or target schools for me when I met with her junior year, which was very frustrating. I know compared to many of the CC posters in general, I am not a very strong student and my ECC’s are kind of unstable. However, I am a very talented writer and my college essay was very strong. I also had a plethora of personal issues through my highschool career: starting from freshman year, where I was accused of commiting a crime that I did not do (school formally apologized when they realized I was innocentand I was never disciplined), to major bullying, to having someone from my highschool break in into and ransack my house, to some other unhappy things. I was very close to two teachers I asked for my reccomendations, both of whom, who were there and supported me during those tough times during my highschool careers and made sure to mention it in my reccomendation. </p>

<p>Nationality: Indian
G.P.A: 3.58 or 3.6 Weighted (Not so hot, I know. But I attend a very difficult/one of the best public schools in Rhode. I’ve taken all honors/AP classes. I have about 4 AP classes (UHISTORY, BIO, MICRO, and MACRO) on my resume, rest are all honors)
SAT: 1650 SuperScored

  • 1640 first time taken with SAT prep class
  • 1580 second time in the fall of my senior year
    Act Composite: 26 - Feb 2011
    25 - June 2011
    I am not a very strong test taker. I actually did worst the second time I took each test. I did not sign up for the Nov./Dec/Jan SATS/ACTS. I feel like my low test scores jeopardized most of my chances at scools. </p>

<p>ECS: Cross Country 9th and 10th. Couldn’t run anymore because I broke my foot and have a metal plate and I didn’t heal right. I still have alot of problems with my foot.
GSA for 9th and 10th
Writing club for 10th. Club stopped after sophmore year
Interact club all four years
International club for the two years it was created
Asian Club for my freshman year but unfortunatly, the club was shut down after my freshman year
Enviromental Club, my senior year. Club was restarted my freshman year.
I also co-stared a new language club with one of my friends this year.
I work at my family business and I also work at a major retail store on the weekends
I pay for everything, family business doing really bad and so work is a major part of my weeknds and kind of prevented any chances of doing any kind decent ECCs. I worked anywhere from 30 hours to 12 hours a week my sophmore and junior year.
In the summer of my junior year, out of 160 people, I was chosen to work with small non-profit organization that did enviromental conversation with a local university, where we got to use the university’s labs and stuff.
Over the summer, I shadowed the CEO and other major hospital administration figures at a very prominent hospital in Rhode Island. My senior project was to highlight the Kaizen project and I created a patient survey that is used at the hospital to gain more patient feedback and improve patient waiting times and care. I put in over 100+ hours.
I also have a 45+ hours of volunteering at a retirement home as well over the span of my junior year and the summer of my sophmore year. </p>

<p>I got into Michigan State. I got UVM with a trustee scholarship. I was deferred at Fordham, Northeastern, and Tulane. Flat-out rejected from Penn State - UP (Penn state has a special relationship with our school). I know these schools where sorta my reach schools, but again, traditionally, most students from my school with lower or on-par stats get into these schools. I know people this year at my school who got into these schools I got deferred from with lower stats, no ECCS, and even lower test scores. I sort of dishearted and my guidance counseler offered me no advice to being deferred. She told me my only hope was my midsemester grades and to forget about sending addditional materials. She also told me she was surprised I got deferred from these schools, based on the results from my school’s stat book. I’m frustrated because both of my parents did not go to school here, neither them know anything about the college application process and nor did I recieve any help from my school. I could not visit schools because I was working all summer either. So, that probably did not help. I’m feeling stuck in limbo here and my senior year classes are all very difficult, so I’m not sure how my semester grades will be. I can’t really afford to apply to anymore schools and I’m just all over the place. What should I do? Any reccomendations on how I can make myself better and project myself as an actual individual in the application pool of thousands? Even though being deferred isn’t the end of the world, I’m very concerned and wondering if I aimed too high even though my public has a record of sending not-very stellar students to very good schools. This year, my classmates will be attending Vanderbilt, U Penn, Colby, Dartmouth, and etc…It has been a great year for the rest of my class over all. Most of the kids in my grade have been getting into their reaches. I’m feeling left out and frustrated. Also, because I was deferred from so many schools EA. UF was a long shot because I’m out of state and low test scores and GPA, I applied there for my long shot reach but based on the lack of acceptance letters I’ve been recieving, my money could have gone somewhere else. I feel like I will either get deffered from the rest of my EA schools I’m waiting to hear from (Rutgers, UWisconsin, Umiami, and etc). What to do? Advice? Suggestions?</p>

<p>I’m not sure why you’re comparing yourself to kids getting into Penn or Dartmouth, surely they had scores hundreds of points above a 1650. All you can do is focus on where your stats are solid. Every year most colleges are getting harder to get into. If you don’t have enough safeties, add a couple quickly.</p>

<p>Assuming you only sent your ACT scores:
Rutgers: Although you are oos with your ACT you still have a decent chance as long as you didnt apply to the pharm or engineering school</p>

<p>UWis: This would probably be a lowish reach for you</p>

<p>UMiami: similar to UWis</p>

<p>UF: going to be a reach since your oos</p>

<p>Fordham: with your ACT you have a shot and you werent rejected EA so thats a plus</p>

<p>Northeastern: similar to Fordham</p>

<p>Tulane: similar to Fordham but probably a lower chance</p>

<p>BU: a reach definitely</p>

<p>as for the other schools your adding loyola chicago would be your best bet with Lehigh and Mcgill being significant reaches for you. GW would be a low reach for you and i am unsure about admissions for occidental.</p>

<p>If you are going to need financial help and aid being oos to all of these publics and costly privates will be a probably because you will most likely not receive merit or much financial aid.</p>

<p>Why aren’t you considering URI? It would probably be a safety. Also, you could consider transferring for your sophomore year.</p>

<p>I sent my transcript. I plan on doing bio/pre-med. Having the opportunity to see their bio dept/use their labs over the summer…I was not satisified. I don’t think the research opportunities would be very great at URI. At this rate, I probably will shell out the $65 and send my application for the bio department.
I am really unhappy in Rhode Island. I know in my heart, that my anger and disappointment would probably overwhelm me and probably prevent me from dong well. It’s been my dream to leave Rhode Island since I’ve gotten here. I would not be able to suceed at URI. I was thinking about PC, but again, I think I would dislike PC more than URI.</p>

<p>UW results to date. I’d say pretty unlikely.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-wisconsin-madison/1227761-fall-2012-decisions.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-wisconsin-madison/1227761-fall-2012-decisions.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>@Waverly. Unfortunatly, I have classes with these kids and my public school is very competitive. I feel ashamed and it just sucks. Our teachers are really obnxious about college acceptances for seniors. Teachers/Guidance office praise and glorify kids who get into “good schools”.
I probably will save the $100 and not apply to McGill. Debating about Occidental. Don’t know too much about the school. I love Lehigh though and I know a couple people with lower stats that got decent money from Lehigh :confused:
And no, I did not apply to Rutgers for pharm/engineering.
Does Ohio State count as a safety? Anyone have any more reccomendations for safetiies?</p>

<p>bio/pre-med</p>

<p>If you’re not a good test-taker, how the heck are you going to do well on the MCAT?</p>

<p>To summarize…</p>

<p>*Nationality: Indian
G.P.A: 3.58 or 3.6 Weighted (Not so hot, I know. But I attend a very difficult/one of the best public schools in Rhode. I’ve taken all honors/AP classes. I have about 4 AP classes (UHISTORY, BIO, MICRO, and MACRO) on my resume, rest are all honors)
SAT: 1650 SuperScored

  • 1640 first time taken with SAT prep class
  • 1580 second time in the fall of my senior year
    Act Composite: 26 - Feb 2011
    25 - June 2011</p>

<p>I am not a very strong test taker. I actually did worst the second time I took each test.I work at my family business and I also work at a major retail store on the weekends
I pay for everything, family business doing really bad and so work is a major part of my weeknds *</p>

<p>Why did you apply to all of those OOS publics when your family is struggling money-wise. Are they going to pay the high OOS costs? If not, then why apply???</p>

<p>Unless your family has a college fund or some other means to pay, I don’t see how most schools will work for you. Your stats aren’t high enough for the schools that meet need or give generous merit.</p>

<p>How much will your parents or you pay for college? That answer will likely determine where you should apply.</p>

<p>What state school can you commute to?</p>

<p>i dont think osu would be a safety for you. I would suggest Temple and Drexel as being a safety but drexel is quite expensive.</p>

<p>Obviously, I was going to take out the loans to pay the schools if I got in. The state schools in Rhode Island aren’t the greatest. Commuting wouldn’t work because my family is leaving the state after I get into school.</p>

<p>how much money are you working with and what area or region would you prefer?</p>

<p>I think UVM with the scholarship is your best bet. I’m not trying to be mean but your stats are really holding you back, the SAT puts you significantly below the mid-50s of most of the schools on your list, from my knowledge. And your ACT isn’t very good either. While I understand you go to a difficult school, if most the kids have 4.0s and you have a 3.6 weighted, it doesn’t help you. Also, while the summer project was a highlight, there wasn’t really anything else of substance in your ECs - just a lot of clubs.</p>

<p>The loans are also a really bad idea, especially if you wind up going into medicine. If you’re family is hurting financially, how do you plan on paying back the loans? Not only will you have undergrad loans, but you’ll likely have over $200,000 in debt from med school, and, from what I’ve read, you almost certainly won’t be able to go through med school and work full-time at a job that pays the kind of money to pay off your huge amounts of debt. Have you spoken to your family about paying for school?</p>

<p>As for region, I would prefer south/midwest…But OOS.
My parents can probably only contribute 10-15 grand a year for my education. My brother went to Indiana University with similar stats. But when my brother went to school, OOS tuition was $20 grand a year, now it’s around 40. He’s currently in his second year of grad school at Mayo.
Not liking New England.
Use to live in Oregon…</p>

<p>Your GPA and EC’s are fine, but you are lacking the course rigor (unless your HS only offers 4 AP’s?) and the test scores for these schools (most). Your scores are just too low for the list. I’d add a couple SAT/ACT optional school apps. as soon as possible. But you also need to find schools that are more on target with your GPA AND SAT scores. Use the CC search, and find at least one fairtest school. </p>

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<p>I’d recommend George Mason U. and Christopher Newport U.</p>

<p>…Med school is highly competitive. The posts on this forum are obviously honest and bring me to reality.
It’s too late to apply for nursing at URI…IDK about CC. I’m in a sticky situation. $10 to $15 grand is scraping by :(</p>

<p>School only offers:
AP biology
AP Chem
AP Physics
AP English
AP Calc
AP English</p>

<p>Freshman year. I had a 3.8 GPA weighted.
Took:
Honors English
Regular Social Studies (No honors exists for freshman)
Geometry
Honors College and Business Law
Computer Design
Spanish 2
Honors Bio</p>

<p>Sophmore year (Honors Chem and Earth Space killed my grade…this is when the turmoil in my highschool career also started):
Honors Social Studies
Honors Chem
Honors English
Honors Earth Space/Science
Honors Anatomy
Algebra II
Spanish 3 regular (No honors)
Marketing </p>

<p>Junior year (overall gpa was terrible…3.44 weighed):
Honors English
APUSH
Honors Physics
Honors Biotech
Foundations of Art
Honors Brit Lit
PreCalc
Honors Spanish 4</p>

<p>Senior year:
AP Bio
Honors Calc
Stats (school does not offer AP or honors)
Writing 104 Honors/College Credit Class
Honors Sociology
Photo I
Spanish Five (Chose not to take honors)
AP Micro Economics
AP Macro Economics</p>

<p>Where is your family relocating to? Maybe you could attend a college there? I think I a 2/2 at a community college and then transferring to a state university might work for you, stat-wise and financially.</p>

<p>They were planning to relocate to whether I ended up going to school. They wanted to go somewhere warm such as Florida, which is why they are pushing for UF (seems very unlikely) and Umiami (reach again) . My family obviously thought even though I wasn’t genius, I still had shot at a couple schools…Clearly, that’s not what happened here.
I wish my guidance counsler had been more helpful in the process. I’d rather people be honest than me waste my money and be in a frustrating situation.
I also wanted to go to a “good pre-med” school…when the reality is most of them are top 25-50 schools and are pretty expensive to go to unless you’re a stellar student or your family has money. Plus, super competitive, and that’s obviously not where I want to be if I have trouble compeiting right now.</p>

<p>I think you should research schools that give merit aid, but aren’t really selective. Look at Trinity U in TX, Saint Louis U, College of Wooster. I’ve heard these schools are also pretty good for pre-med.</p>

<p>If you did somehow get National Hispanic and your family wants to move south, check out U of Alabama and Auburn University. I’ve been told they give amazing merit aid.</p>