<p>This isn’t a flame question i promise! Before you think i’m just here to start a flame war, i just wanted to say that i really really like USC’s campus (i studied there when i was in community college before i transfered to UCLA; <3 doheny library) and i think it’s a great school, but due to it not having IGETC, among other reasons, i chose to go the CSU/UC route and got into UCLA and decided to go there (i kind of regretted not applying to USC though) so now that you (hopefully) believe my intentions are not malicious, let me get to my story.</p>
<p>since i decided to go to UCLA i decided to move to west L.A. My bus ride is only about 20 min there. (As opposed to two hours if i commuted on the bus from my house.) so i like my apartment and neighborhood. This guy in my apartment building saw me wearing a UCLA shirt and said “ah you go to UCLA?” and i said yes. Now, i know at least 3-4 other people in my building who go to UCLA as well, so asked if he did as well, and he said he went to USC. i felt so bad for him because the commute must be a pain. Not to say that USC is a bad school not worth commuting to (especially in regards to its film program) but a 30 min drive to USC compared to at least a 5 minute drive to UCLA one i would say is a pain by most people’s opinions. Additionally, since he moved pretty close to UCLA (my neighborhood is pretty much equal distance from SMC and UCLA) i imagine he went to SMC, then wanted to transfer into UCLA but was unfortunately rejected. I suppose that i could be wrong though.</p>
<p>So honestly, how many of you guys went to USC because you got rejected from UCLA? Getting rejected isn’t to surprising if you’re not a california resident because we get priority and only like 10% of UCLAs admitted students come from outside california (compared to 40% from USC) since it’s a public university. I’m fairly certain that if i hadn’t been living in L.A./cali my whole life, i would have been rejected. but the necessary condition is false, and i was accepted. I’m sure that if UCLA was ever able to make the move to become a private university (which i don’t think would ever happen) they’d admit many more international and OOS students (and i’m sure that many of you who did apply and got rejected would get in if that were the case) I was reading in the Daily Bruin today that UCLA is actually making a move to admit 2000 more international students, so maybe the change is beginning already.</p>
<p>this thread is just to tease my curiousity. I honestly didn’t mean to offend anyone, so apologies in advance if i did. I honestly do think USC is a great school : )</p>
<p>i didn’t apply to UCLA (i’m OOS) but my friends from my HS all got in to USC/UCLA/UCB. i know others who were accepted to UCLA fall but USC spring admit. from my anecdotal experiences, i haven’t seen a trend of students being accepted to one school and being rejected at the other. but who knows?</p>
<p>ah that’s interesting. I wasn’t sure how strong of a claim it was, but i’ve heard many people say that USC is full of UCLA rejects and to find a case where that actually seems very likely to be true, i thought, was a pretty funny coincidence haha. wanted to see if others had similar experiences : )</p>
<p>Didn’t bother applying to UCLA but if I did I would have still chosen USC over it. I completely understand now why Trojans are so fanatical about this school :)</p>
<p>Bephy,
The purpose of the two universities is different. UCLA’s purpose is to educate California residents using facilities and resources of the state of California. Much emphasis is on the graduate schools. USC considers itself a global university and is private. It attracts students not only from California, but also from all over the world. The smaller classes and 1/9 student faculty ratio enhances SC’s undergraduate experience.</p>
<p>Here is the mission statement of USC:</p>
<p>“The central mission of the University of Southern California is the devolopment of human beings and society as a whole through the cultivation and enrichment of the human mind and spirit. The principal means by which our mission is accomplished are teaching, research, artistic creation, professional practice and selected forms of public service.”</p>
<p>That is the ideal. The university will strive for the ideal.</p>
<p>Perhaps you are unaware that USC is more selective than UCLA, has higher entering scores than UCLA and attracts top students from some of the most prestigious private prep schools in the nation. </p>
<p>Here are the 2009 ACT and SAT entering scores. USC’s 2010 scores are higher, but UCLA does not post theirs until November. Both universities use the same ACT scoring method.</p>
<p>For 2009 entering freshmen: (These scores are from College Confidential’s statistics and each university’s data)</p>
<p>USC ACT
30</p>
<p>UCLA ACT
27</p>
<p>USC SAT Combined
2030 (Went up considerably in 2010)</p>
<p>UCLA SAT
1903</p>
<p>In both 2008 and 2009 SC’s law students passed the California bar exam at a higher rate than UCLA’s law students. The scores for 2010 have not been released at this time.</p>
<p>Use the search function to find the thread here of students who chose USC over other highly selective universities. </p>
<p>UCLA has made fine contributions to the state of California, but it an incorrect assumption to think USC students would not have been admitted to UCLA.</p>
<p>My son was accepted to USC but not UCLA. We are not from California. While we liked UCLA the costs weren’t all that much different and the my son was accepted into the USC film school as a first year student. The film school at UCLA doesn’t take its students in until their third year so there was no guarantee that he could get into it even if he had been accepted to UCLA. Under the circumstances we would have probably gone to USC even if accepted to UCLA.</p>
<p>Being from east coast at the time, the UCLA-USC rivalry meant nothing to us. A decision would have been made on purely strategic/cost grounds if he had been accepted to both. </p>
<p>We did tour UCLA and while it was very pretty and quite impressive, it seemed huge, almost overwhelming to us, and I worked at the time for the Federal government in DC. We had admissions questions and we had to stand in line in front of some cage to talk to someone to get our answers. USC, OTOH, scheduled a one on one interview with an admissions officer for my son, and had an east coast representative that met with him in Virginia and served as his advocate. </p>
<p>USC was large enough for my son, who had gone to a very small private school since kindergarten, but not so large that he would get lost. In any case it is quite likely that he would not have gone to UCLA had he been accepted there and not at USC. He was also accepted in-state to UVA and OOS at UNC-Chapel Hill as well as at the film school at Florida State. Those would have been better choices for him, but the USC acceptance trumped those possibilities.</p>
<p>Accepted to USC, UCB, and UCLA. Chose USC, and am OOS student. Not a huge football fan or into the rivalry thing didn’t have to much effect on choice.</p>
<p>Son was accepted to UCLA, USC, Cal, NYU Stern etc,etc Decided that he wanted to stay in Southern California and after attending both admitted students day- chose USC and loves it. He is taking advantage of many of the unique opportunities that are offered at USC- and since his good friend from High School is attending UCLA- he Know that similar programs are not offered there. Most of his friends (except some spring admits) that were in state were accepted to both universities -plus a few of his OOS friends also (the one’s who applied). I would say that the underlying inference that the USC student isn’t as accomplished as the UCLA student is an antiquated bias from decades ago and is not true today.</p>
<p>Son was accepted to UCLA, Cal, USC and others. He narrowed it down to UCLA & USC, attended both admit days and ultimately chose USC & the opportunities at Marshall. He had an amazing first year and couldn’t imagine being anywhere else. </p>
<p>kaymac, I suppose there’s websites like that with every rivalry.
try stanfordrejects.com</p>
<p>D accepted to all UC’s, USC, Northwestern, Columbia, Georgetown, UPenn, Dartmouth and several others. Chose USC and would do it over in a minute. Others from her high school= 16 accepted into Berkeley & UCLA but not USC. 4 accepted into USC and UCLA, all chose USC except one. 1 of those was also accepted to Stanford but chose USC. 1 accepted to UCLA but Spring Admit for USC and chose to wait and attend USC. Currently 4 not accepted by USC are trying to transfer there. We live in northern Cal.</p>
<p>To “Magical” I don’t know what a “Standard reject” is, but my daughter was accepted at both Stanford and USC (merit scholarships at both) and UCLA and chose USC. Two boys from her school did same. One other girl that started at Stanford and one that started at Cal have both already dropped out and are looking at either USC or UCLA.</p>
<p>Why should people on this board take time to answer such kind of questions? I don’t think they deserve attention.</p>
<p>I am from outside of this country, and I am truly amazed by the self-inflated sense of academic superiority displayed by UCLA people over USC. It is not like UCLA is on par with Berkeley, Stanford, Harvard, etc. UCLA is a nice school, but their students are nothing but rejects from the aforementioned schools, or they did not even dream to apply to those schools, let alone 40% of them are transfers from community colleges. Even in the old days when USC admitted lower-profiled students, the achievements by the USC alumni still rivaled or surpassed those of UCLA grads in most areas, except for in academia, maybe.</p>
<p>Fairly speaking, chances are a USC student may very well get rejected if he/she applied to Stanford. But there will be people choosing USC over Stanford, and there may be a majority of USC students didn’t even look at Stanford.</p>
<p>I actually know people who chose USC over Dartmouth, other ivies (I know of a cornell transfer) Stanford, even Harvard, but yeah a lot of us got rejected from these schools. I personally chose USC over schools like BC, UMich, UVA, NYU, but didnt apply to any UCs cuz I feel that USC beats all of em</p>
Before you think i’m just here to start a flame war, i just wanted to say that i really really like USC’s campus (i studied there when i was in community college before i transfered to UCLA; <3 doheny library) and i think it’s a great school, but due to it not having IGETC, among other reasons, i chose to go the CSU/UC route and got into UCLA and decided to go there (i kind of regretted not applying to USC though) so now that you (hopefully) believe my intentions are not malicious, let me get to my story.</p>