Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

<p>^^but you know Ohio, those at e some of the stories people need to hear. At CC and even at times n this thread there is a habit to see a 5/10 pound needed/wanted loss as a major world problem - when in fact, many people reading the thread have 50+pounds to get rod of and DO think that 5 plates of salad with croutons and a cup pd dressing IS “diet”. They look for people who have truly been in their shoes and who still struggle with Fallon g back. People who are a size 20 who would love to be a size 16 . It’s more defeating sometimes to think that everyone on the thread is a size 8 trying to get to a size 4 (or guy equivalent). </p>

<p>Always great to share our successes but sometimes more learning and relating in our faults and struggles.:)</p>

<p>Oh my, I see new security, like buttons, a promotion to “member” and more! What happened here? Obviously I haven’t checked in for a while, but this new format looks good. Now to find an avatar. Anyway, I’m just stopping by to say hi to the group! My exercising has been a bit ho-hum, but never-the-less, still ongoing. Yesterday H and I went to the gym. I ran three miles on the treadmill and did a circuit of the upper body weight machines. It’s over 90 already, but we put in a brisk 5 miles of walking outside today. Swimming pools are looking enticing about now. The eating habits haven’t changed much either…keeping out the junk carb calories, incorporating plenty of veggies and fruit, lean meats, and a ton of olive oil. And wine. I drove down to S. Florida with my mom last week and went to McDs for the first time in years. Grilled chicken breast salad was not bad. Hope all is well with this group!</p>

<p>Spinning on Saturday, yoga (slow flow) on Sunday–rest day today. Trainer tomorrow. Hadn’t done spinning in a flew weeks–thinking that I need to up the cardio. </p>

<p>I’m ready annoyed with my Polar Link activity band–I forgot to take it when I visited my kids in Chapel Hill last week. Charged it up the other day, but I can’t get it to sync with the iPhone app, which has never been a problem in the past. I’ve been to the Polar site and have followed the directions for syncing–to no avail. Anyone with the Polar Link–suggestions? I’ll probably end up calling Polar. Right now, I’m considering buying the Garmin Vivo–a battery that last for a year is very appealing.</p>

<p>abasket- that is an excellent post and a good reminder.</p>

<p>PlantMom- SO glad to see you back! Keep it up!</p>

<p>Got home safely despite worries of tornadoes all over middle Tennessee. Tonight might be some rough weather, but our flight landed without incident. No more flat Florida running. </p>

<p>Big wave to Plantmom!! You are missed! Many have not liked the new format - however, gotta roll with the changes, right!? </p>

<p>Totally agree Abasket! I try not to post too much about my weight or my eating habits. They aren’t important to anyone but me. And I feel that there are so many (mostly women) who have “disordered” eating habits. Not eating disorders but a skewed sense of their bodies and their eating habits. While I think myfitnesspal is a great thing, and it is for many including my own H. It isn’t for me, I tended to obsess about everything that was going into MY body and it wasn’t healthy FOR ME. So I am trying to eat healthier and not always succeeding but I’m trying to work on it. </p>

<p>And work at working out. Which I didn’t for many years, skinny people don’t need to work out, didn’t you know. We should sit on the couch until we get fat and then work out. That’s what I heard and how uncomfortable I was with myself most of my life. I’m working on that confidence thing, now at 50+. It’s only uphill from here. :)</p>

<p>2.5 mile trail run. The weather is going to stink the rest of the week, but I got it in before the rain. Now that it’s getting warmer, this working out thing is pretty ok.</p>

<p>I wanted to say that even those who are in the normal range of weight still struggle with body image and eating and confidence. But no one is happier for those who are getting healthier, no matter their weight or journey. I hope my rambling made some sense. If not just ignore ;)</p>

<p>The Mio LInk came and I have it set up with my Garmin. It is REALLY cool. I hope I can try it out tomorrow if we don’t get blown away tonight.</p>

<p>Man, Just reread my post a few back. Deepest apologies for all the typing errors. When at home I’m usually using the iPad and I just don’t look back to do my own spell checking. ;)</p>

<p>bromfield:</p>

<p>I don’t know about Polars, but there are two quirky tips with Garmin’s and linking.</p>

<p>First, for heart rate monitor straps and foot pods that get a battery replacement. Leave the battery out for a couple of hours or put the battery in upside down (yes, I know…upside down) for a second to short the circuit before installing the battery properly. This makes the unit forget its old ID number and get a new one. Then, you can search for the new one with the app or watch. I had to do this when a Garmin strap wouldn’t relink after a battery change.</p>

<p>Or, tell your iPhone app to “forget” or unlink from all Polar or bluetooth devices. Then start from scratch relinking. I think the forget stage wipes the slate clean for ID numbers. This is a trick for Garmin watches that can’t find a heart rate monitor.</p>

<p>MoWC, I’ll be interested in what you think of the Mio. I think I want one. My hr strap has been driving me crazy, so much so that I leave it at home about half the time, but I would like to have hr data.</p>

<p>Blank- it seems really well made and felt really comfortable just putting it on. It fit well and has lots of holes for adjusting it. The Garmin picked it up right away. I’ll see how it does running.</p>

<p>Cool, MOfWC! Glad that you made it home ok and got the Mio. Mine will arrive tomorrow, but Mr B threatens to hide my running shoes if I try to run this week. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>abasket, lol, we understand, since we all speak pretty fluent iPhonese. </p>

<p>I don’t think the Mio is going to work for me. According to a Mio rep at DCRainmaker, it does some short-term averaging of HR. Not a problem for steady state runners, but not suitable for short 20 second high intensity intervals as the response lags the actual change in HR… One of the things I do with my HR monitor is use HR to end sprint or rest intervals on the Airdyne, so instantaneous HR is pretty much essential.</p>

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<p>I had to go in and change the dreaded 1/4 mile interval workout on the Garmin after yesterday. I had it set to end my rest when my heart rate fell to 120 bpm (70% of my max). But, with the short intense intervals, it was falling to 72% and then just sitting there. Minutes later, I was having to practically stop pedaling to get it to fall the last little bit. I went in and changed the end point to 123 bpm so the rests end much sooner. We’ll see how that works out next time.</p>

<p>I had to do the same thing with walk/jog intervals, where my heart rate just doesn’t fall below 72%.</p>

<p>It’s funny how different workouts respond differently. With mile intervals (that take about 3 minutes), my heart rate falls predictably to 70%. With strenght training, it will fall steadily to 60% or below.</p>

<p>Idad - have you ever researched/studied heart rate variability? Supposedly a higher variability is better than lower variability and is used more and more by athletes to determine if they are overtraining. </p>

<p>Yes. Several of the leading proponents of heart rate variability (Joel Jameson and a strength coach for a pro soccer team) hang out on Mike Boyle’s Stregthcoach.com forum where there have been lengthy discussions of HRV. Jameson sells a HRV app for iPhones (<a href=“http://www.bioforcehrv.com/”>http://www.bioforcehrv.com/&lt;/a&gt;). The soccer coach, among other things, records HRV daily for all his players. It’s definitely a major fad in fitness circles.</p>

<p>1) For it it even maybe tell you anything useful, it’s got to be measured for several minutes while completely at rest – ideally first thing in the morning. In theory, decreasing variability indicates a state of over-training and “adrenal fatigue” (whatever that is). Increasing variability is theoretically a rested state, good to go for a hard workout.</p>

<p>2) My old Garmin could have HRV recording enabled and there’s a SportTracks plugin that records it , so I did a test for a month, recording a 5 minute segment first thing in the morning, sitting quietly, while waiting for the coffee to brew. It was a big waste of time. My HRV, based on geezer studies, is better than average and does not correlate with impeding cardiac doom, which is good. I already knew that from simple measures like heart rate recovery after max heart rate… But, as for day to day or week to week signals, HRV didn’t correlate with anything I was doing exercise-wise. Fir example, it didn’t show bupkis when I came home toasted from three days of camping and hiking. It it was readily apparent (to me) that I was toast after three consecutive days of testing, but the HRV testing didn’t show anything.</p>

<p>3) The guys who use it say that, at best “you have to interpret the results along with all kinds of other data, like how the athletes are feeling that day, etc.” To me, that’s just weaseling out. I don’t think the knowledge base is there.</p>

<p>4) If it’s useful at all (a big IF in my opinion), it seems to be a tool to convince crazy over-training athletes to take some easy rest days: MMA fighters and others who train obsessively at very high intensity. I don’t think a rational geezer fitness program should put you in that kind of overtrained state, with a mix of activities, some hard days, some easy days, some rest days.</p>

<p>5) IMO, they’ve taken a couple of small studies and extrapolated predictiveness and usefulness far, far, far beyond what is warranted. It’s probably a better prognosticator for heart attacks than athletic training. Most of the research that can be found online is in cardiology.</p>

<p>My new Garmin doesn’t have HRV enabled (it’s part of the Training Effects analysis that Garmin pitches with a couple of their running watches). It’s not a feature that I’m missing!</p>

<p>Good morning. Am recovering from homemade pasta debauch on the weekend (a talented friend had owed us a meal so I willingly rolled off the gf wagon for such an event) and discovered that my genius yard guys dumped about an acre of leaves ON MY TRAIL.</p>

<p>Duh. Where should we put these leaves? How about right here on this well-travelled trail? WTH!</p>

<p>Of course, I had just cleared said trail the weekend prior. Guess ill be doing that with gusto again his weekend.</p>

<p>Microspikes are awesome…in everything except a four foot high sea of leaves…hi ho ;)</p>

<p>HRV sounds too complicated! I’m pretty good about listening to my body and avoid overtraining. What got me interested is it seemed my resting heart rate (evening) had a hard time getting below 70 last week. I was thinking that 3 cups of coffee and a couple diet cokes might be driving it up. Didn’t drink any caffeine yesterday and a got 49 last night. Guess I didn’t realize caffeine’s affect. Maybe too stressed out last week too.</p>

<p>Changes in early morning resting heart rate probably show the same kinds of things that HRV is purported to show. The problem, I think, is that they can identify several markers that change over time like that, but what do they really correlate with? That’s where the evidence gets pretty thin. It’s so easy to chase wild geese, based on some study of six guys.</p>

<p>kmc:</p>

<p>Aargh. Having to clear the trail of leaves for the second time would be above and beyond the call of duty. No hiking for me this week. A solid stretch of cold (50s), cloudy, windy, and occasionally wet. Not really my cup of tea.</p>

<p>Having to now eat a low fat diet in hopes of slowing down my AMD.
:frowning:
no bacon, no butter, no ice cream!
Ive also found that if I have more than one cup of coffee, it really sets off my fibro.
Doesn’t my body realize I live in Seattle?
At this rate the only vices I have left are drugs, sex & rock n roll.
<:-P </p>