Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

The RAGNAR race was incredible, but it was really tough for me. None of our team is used to running on hills and it really was hard for a lot of people.

It was a 207 mile race from Cumberland MD to Washington DC, broken into 36 segments of varying lengths. Shortest leg was 1.8 miles, longest was 12.9. Average leg length was probably 6 miles or so. There were 12 people on our team and we each ran 3 legs. The way the race was structured, it accomodated having runners of very different capabilities on the team. There were a few people who only ran around 13 miles total. There were 3 people who ran over 20 miles, with the rest of the team in between. H had the longest, with his 3 legs totalling 30 miles.

We were split into 2 vans. Runners 1-6 started out in Van 1 at 7:15 am on Friday. We were in Van 2 and got to sleep in. Van 1 was estimated to complete Leg 6 at around noon based on the distances of the legs and each of the runners’ paces. So we met them at the first major exchange point where our Runner 7 then took off. Our van then drove to the next minor exchange point and we waited with Runner 8 until Runner 7 arrived. After the exchange, we then drove on to the next minor exchange point, and so on until Runner 12 (H) completed his leg. At that point, all team members had completed their first leg of the race and Van 1 started back up again with their first runner now running Leg 13. We met them at the second major exchange point after Leg 18 and so on. In theory, while the other van was running their 6 legs, we could move to the next major exchange point and get something to eat and try to get a little sleep. In theory, anyway.

I was Runner 11 and originally scheduled to run 24.9 miles. RAGNAR did a late change to the route and the exchanges and my first leg got shortened quite a bit to where I was only scheduled to run 20.1 miles. My first leg was just over 5 miles and it was on a gravel rail trail along a river. Not too hilly and very scenic. I ended up running at dusk and I only saw 3 other runners the entire leg, so it was little creepy running at that hour in such a secluded area. We had one member of our team in our van who was really nervous about running at night alone, so I offered to pace her on her second leg which was at 1:00 am. It was a good thing to pace her at night - she is a pretty slow runner and had a leg with major hills so she needed the encouragement and with her slow pace it was a very easy run for me. My second official leg was at around 5:30 am, so I had a few hours break between her leg and my next one. My second official leg was 9.1 miles with some real hills, but it was through some beautiful countryside. I ran through the sunrise and it was just gorgeous so the time passed quickly. My final leg ended up being at around 5:30 pm on Saturday and was in Washington DC. It was along the river and I had some nice views of the Washington monument and the Capitol across the river. Throughout the entire race, my biggest fear was getting lost (I am very navigationally challenged!) and that happened on this last leg. There was one point where the trail split and it wasn’t marked. I chose the wrong path! I ended up backtracking and adding 1.1 miles to my leg. I panicked a bit when I realized I was lost but it wasn’t too bad to get myself back on the trail - thank goodness for GPS, Find My Friends, and good map routes on the RAGNAR app!

My mileage ended up being 26.1 miles total, which really annoyed me when I realized it afterwards because I would have run another .1 miles at the end of one of my legs just to have completed the equivalent of a full marathon!

We got very little sleep. I don’t do well without sleep. The hills were hard, and it was hot. So overall a pretty tough event. I’m glad I did it - it was a lot of fun at times and I really enjoyed my teammates who I got to know a lot better. We raised $18K for Back on My Feet and that was much appreciated. We got lots of supportive FB posts and texts from the members while we were running telling us how much they appreciated what we were doing.

But the race was really hard on me. I think I got dehydrated in spite of trying to make sure I was getting enough water and it was hard to eat right - mostly because somebody in the van was always within a couple hours of running again so that made it tough to get a real meal. My quads were killing me, thanks to the hills, and I developed some painful stomach issues that I’m still battling. I don’t mean to sound so negative - I did really well, I was the 2nd fastest overall pace on the team with the 2nd highest mileage.

The rest of the team is excitedly talking about doing another race next year but at this point I’m not sure I’ll go for it. I’m glad I did it this year but it really seemed to be too hard on my body. Much worse than what I feel after running a full marathon. But I suppose that this may end up being like childbirth and after awhile I’ll forget all the pain and just remember the fun parts.

Sorry for the very long post, but there’s my detailed RAGNAR report!

Happy Birthday @abasket !

Loved reading your recap C3Baker - it sounds TOUGH. Kudos to you - sounds like a “once in a lifetime event” - and that may be enough! I hope your aches and pains subside soon. Those are some tough conditions. I’ve never heard of this event - thanks for sharing!

Great report! I have a friend who did that same race and was runner 12. She had a blast. I would not do ok without sleep. You did great!

What an adventure that must have been C3Baker! Quite an accomplishment!

Very cool race C3Baker!

You should be very proud of this accomplishment, C3Baker. I can’t imagine running that many miles with little to no sleep and iffy food. I’m sure it was lots of fun, but it sounds so hard on one’s body. Well, at least my 50+ year–old body.

What a great report, C3Baker! I’ve always read about Ragnar (and seen lots of folks looking for runners to join their teams on FB), but I’ve never actually “known” someone who has ran. Major kudos and so glad it was mostly enjoyable.

Thanks, C3. I loved reading your report and that’s awesome that you did this. Hooray for raising so much money for Back on My Feet.

Thanks for the report, C3Baker, and huge kudos.

@C3Baker – bravo, and thanks for the details. I’ve wondered what Ragnar is like.

This study kind of annoys me…
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/20/494631423/weight-loss-on-your-wrist-fitness-trackers-may-not-help

“Weight Loss…May Not Help” - may not help? But MAY help???

Sometimes I think articles like these are printed to give people excuses to NOT try a tracker, a nutritive change, etc. Like, “why bother”??? If we don’t support and motivate (and stop giving excuses to) the human element - the person - change is not likely to happen!!!

I do appreciate this statement:
“Ultimately, Patel says, these devices are most effective when the people using them are already dedicated to tracking their fitness. People who are less motivated might not get the same results.”

(edited to say, these people have NOT seen the likes of myself and others on this thread including Mr. Bunsen - running up and down the driveway or up and down inside staircases at 11:30pm!!! - not THAT’S motivation!!) :wink:

I agree abasket. I saw that article and it doesn’t describe me.

Ran 2.75 on the treadmill today without stopping to walk.

I agree- I hate articles like that because it does give one more excuse…
I’m in hot water on my women’s running thread (as MaineLonghorn can attest) because I suggested that a couple of the women who have put some weight back on and want to shed it “kick themselves in the butt” and look at what worked well for them before, draw on their internal discipline and go for it. I got blasted by the person offering advice to “be gentle and kind to yourself”. Yeah- how did that work out for you?

I was one of the two women who have put some weight back on! I told MoWC that I appreciated her encouragement - it will keep me accountable.

I’m still run/walking, trying to get back to all running. September has been unseasonably warm in Maine - this morning was very summer-like. I can’t wait until it cools down to make running more comfortable (I LOVE cold weather, too).

I guess I’m old school. Kind and gentle is necessary when you are injured or sick. A kick in the butt and a dose of reality is needed sometime. That’s why I think a coach and running groups are important. The big excuse that I don’t buy is the " I don’t have time " excuse. You can’t carve out a 1/2 - 1 hour for exercise? You want to be old at 65-70?

It’s been in the high 90s here, even 100 one day. I’m SICK OF IT. I felt horrible the other day after my ride.

Amen Ohio. :slight_smile:

MOWC, not everyone can take that direct advice. They prefer coddling! There’s a time and place for coddling. If you were injured, yes. Sick, yes. Crisis in the family, maybe yes. Because you wanted to spend more time eating Doritios and donuts? NO. Take the blame and accept the responsibility. As Olivia Pope (Scandal) would say, "Handle It. " :slight_smile:

I’m surprised you had that backlash on a running group where people are probably pretty accountable.

Maine, I’ll give you ALL my snow and bitter cold when it comes!!! :slight_smile:

I have consciously been trying to keep things in check and not use running as an excuse to eat more of the wrong types of food - being gentle and kind doesn’t work for me. That leads to foods like macaroni and cheese and donuts. I need my butt kicked from time to time.

I have to say it is awesome to have a running coach when you have to adjust. Monday I was expressing how stressful this week was shaping up to be and Coach helped with identifying the key workouts that I needed to focus on and we’ll regroup from there. This morning I had a Pilates session and I may try to fit in my short run tonight, but if not, I’ll get in tomorrow’s run and Saturday’s. That’s what I always struggled with - how and when to adjust. My body and brain have both been so stressed to the max that adding more stress through running just didn’t make sense. Running for the sake of getting the workout done is just stupid.

Glad you could adjust, sabaray! I think you are doing so great with your mix of running and Pilates.

I was told my posts in that group were rude and insensitive. (not by the 2 wonderful women who expressed the desire to get back on the weight loss train) Unfortunately, it has become not so much a running group as one looking for validation of bad decisions with NO room for constructive feedback. That’s why I appreciate this group so VERY much. I admire the motivation, discipline and variety of talents and interests.

“I guess I’m old school. Kind and gentle is necessary when you are injured or sick. A kick in the butt and a dose of reality is needed sometime.”

Amen, ohio! “Tough love” is what I call this method. Be gentle to yourself, know your limits, but realize that when you fall off the wagon, the only way to get back on is to go back to doing what put you on the wagon in the first place.