Diet/Exercise/Health/Wellness Support Thread

The bottom line recs are pretty basic: don’t smoke, reduce stress, eat protein, eat five plus fruits and vegetables a day, etc. If the article told me to ban all sugar or eat as much sugar as I wanted, then I’d be suspicious.

Thank you for posting the article, but I didn’t think there was much new here. I’m always a bit suspicious when you get to the bottom of the article and they selling their nutrition services for $97/month.

Some folks need a nutritionist to gently prod them towards better eating. No harm in advertising… My PT sends out a newsletter full of interesting advice and recap of recent research. They too charge fro their services…

It’s the summary of the research and studies that’s of interest and of legitimate value. The marketing hype at the end is what PN attaches to all articles they diseminate free of charge and is kind of an ongoing joke in the industry. Kind of like going through an educational exhibit at Epcot that always dumps you into a gift shop to buy something. There’s something of legit educational value but then you need to hold onto your wallet!

As to nothing “much new”, what’s of significance is the refutation of all the new trendy studies and pop nutrition literature that get cited as the “newest studies” on sugar, carbs, insulin resistance, fat storage, weight loss etc that have been used to demonize carbs, sell the public on the belief that thermogenics doesn’t matter and all the other unfounded nonsense that you see spouted on so many weight loss sites. This information may not be new to some (I’ve been aware of it for several years) but based on what you see on a ton of current diet sites and forums, including a bunch here on CC, there are loads of people buying into junk theories of diet, weight management and health.

Bunsen, I’ll be interested in hearing what you think after you go to the source studies. Not too long ago, I listened to an interview of the Dr who ran a study being used by others to support a massive “new science” campaign to limit carbs and increase fats based on insulin fat storage theories applied to a medically normal population. The Dr was complaining that the findings and outcomes of his study were being totally distorted and in fact did not support a high fat low carb diet as the magic bullet to lose weight. That’s what made this article interesting for me, that it summarized a broad swath of studies to give a much better insite as to what the studies are and are not saying.

Those who have had the discussion with me know that for years now, my take has been have a good balance of all 3 macros, knowing the role and importance of each and balancing your allocation based on your individual needs, while maintaining the proper caloric intake to meet your expenditure needs and weight loss/maintenance/gain goals. In many ways it’s often just that basic.

As I said, there’s nothing new in a good balance of the three macros.

I’m not reading “trendy studies”, “unfounded nonsense”, “demonization of carbs” or “new science” like you, but what I do read about is folks eating pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs, desserts, buttered noodles, etc., which in my own personal view is crap.

BTW, there are sides to every theory/study or whatever, as an example, there are folks who argue into the night about “climate science, hoax or real”? And folks accuse scientists of working for one side or another of the argument, so I don’t put much faith in the news on the Internet anymore. And I’ll look with a jaundice eye at any site that wants $97/month for their services.

People confuse carbs with sugars. It drives me nuts. Sugars are carbs, but not carbs are sugars! Sugars are building blocks for complex carbs, just like amino acids are building blocks for proteins. When people hear “sugars are bad”, they raise their pitchforks and go full war on all carbs… why? Because a complete ban without making a distinction does not take a few brain cells… Even such anti-sugar authorities like Dr. Lustig agree that a witch hunt on carbs is not justified, and eating foods that do not come with nutrition labels is the way to go.

Interesting article on how perceptions trump reality:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/well/family/when-your-doctor-is-fitter-than-you-are.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

That is interesting. ^ I am the opposite: more likely to choose a fit doctor because she will understand my lifestyle and desires.

Lulu lemon fans, I am curious to see if any of you have purchased the men’s abc pants. My husband is having a hard time finding work pants (sort of business casual is his norm), so I got him 2 pair. But they were $128 each, and the on-line reviews were not very good. Any experience with these pants? Thanks

I’m not sure we have those in our house, but we’ve bought other men’s pants and my husband likes them. The ones he has are pretty casual- mainly elastic waists or semi-elastic.

I wear business causal at work and wear Dockers or similar type pants.

My doctor is an older Chinese women who walks with cane. I’d say I’m in a tad better shape than she. But she has a fantastic way of making me feel guilty, just like my mom, about not seeing her more often. :slight_smile:

4 miles of trails and hills in 95 degree weather today.

I find lululemon reviews to be overwhelmingly negative and not very helpful. Sometimes I think there is a competition about how negative things can be. I think they post so they can return after a few wearing.

Reviews are either it’s the greatest thing ever or it’s terrible.

The stuff is expensive and needs to be washed with like minded tech fabrics and not put in the dryer. I think a lot of the problem is with things being washed with cotton and thrown in the dryer.

Completely agree with deb. The key is caring for those $$$$ items properly!

Agree! I have Lulu stuff that survived several years just fine, but I am very meticulous about washing my clothes. I weed out negative reviews without any constructive criticism (like something fits a couple of sizes too big on someone who always buys a particular size).

I bought a run for cold vest last year. It had the worst reviews and I had bought one at full price. It pilled horribly according to the reviews, the worst thing in the world. This line went really cheap. I ended up buying 2 vests, the pullover and a jacket. Have worn all of them and washed them all numerous times. No pilling on any. They’ve held up so far, no problems

Thanks everyone. It sounds like they have a great return policy, so I will suggest he keep them and give them a try, despite negative reviews.

Be careful of overdoing a new form of exercise!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/well/move/as-workouts-intensify-a-harmful-side-effect-grows-more-common.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Interesting. I hadn’t heard of spinning being an issue. Thanks for posting.

Really, people love scary stories about the horrors of exercise. These people DRIVE to the gym LOL. Try googling that stats on THAT.

Here’s a question for all those all those who participate in indoor cycling. Do any of your facilities use the Stages bikes? If so, I would like to ask you some questions privately in a PM. In this regard, it is my understanding that a group of YMCA’s in South Carolina ordered 96 of the bikes and if any of you go to one of those Y’s I’d be particularly interested in hearing from you.

With regard to the article on Rehabdo and indoor cycling, while I note the cases that have been reported, I can tell you that in 23 years of doing indoor cycling in the winter, at numerous facilities, in classes of significant intensity, I’ve never seen nor heard of any occurrences other than what’s reported in the article. Reports of exercise induced rhabdo have been around for several years. A couple of years back, Crossfit came under fire because its push till you drop approach to strength training was associated with several reported cases. While I have no doubt that indoor cycling could cause rhabdo if pushed to extremes, I wish it were possible to dig deeper into the scientific methodology of the reports linked to The NY Times article. There are some statements that just sound “off”, like one person developed the condition after 15 minutes in their first class. Given that classes almost always start with a warm up, I find it difficult to buy into someone developing this confition after effectively engaging in 10 minutes of exercise. That’s just inconsistent with the etiology of the condition. Usually, the condition is associated with repeated over the top exercise sessions and inadequate recovery or increments of exercise that are much, much longer. I also question how some of the statistics are presented. I would be more interested in seeing the percentage of indoor cyclists who get rhabdo vs the percentage of other forms of HIT exercise rather than “X” number of people are reported to have gotten it from cycling. At the end of the day, though, regardless of what modality of exercise you do, it’s critical to have instructors who understand concepts of scaling group exercise programming and progressive load. It’s equally critical for participants to know how to set their own limits. In indoor cycling classes, no one forces you to turn that knob or push to collapse. You have immediate, effective control of the loads you put on yourself at all times.